to tell people that you can go for walks in the countryside which is lovely

[chomalungma]

But the pubs will be shut so you can't get a lovely lunch whilst out

So it's going to be pack lunches again.

At least this time there won't be people complaining about people exercising in the Peak District like last time!

You question the police at roadblocks? Really?
Yes absolutely I would
There needs to be a legal basis for the actions of the police
And everyone else

I don't think this thread is goady at all. How many threads start with "Am I allowed to ........"? A lot of people are happy to have things verified to them and that's all this thread is doing. If you don't like walking then fine, but why click on the thread?

We live rurally, but not too close to any particular points of interest. We do live within an hours drive to plenty though and will be visiting them for a walk and some fresh air as a family just like we have been doing for a couple of years now.

@myhobbyisouting

"Ask them what the lawful reason for their road block is?"

You question the police at roadblocks? Really?

This is not NK.

We are allowed to - politely - question the actions of law enforcement officials. If police rapped on your door demanding to be let in, you'd question them wouldn't you?

I doubt any decent person objects to people driving a short distance to exercise safely. What might piss them off is:

*People driving a significant distance to exercise in popular rural destinations and trooping into the local shop, which older locals need to use for their essential shopping, to buy a sandwich and a Twix.

*People driving any distance to exercise and parking inconsiderately (e.g. making people pass their parked car on a blind corner, or blocking access to property).

"Yes absolutely I would
There needs to be a legal basis for the actions of the police
And everyone else"

I didn't ask if the OP would, I asked if she does. And I don't believe that she does or that you do.

It is extremely rare that someone approaches a road block and asks for details of the law which the police are acting on. Can you tell I know a lot about roadblocks

"This is not NK.

We are allowed to - politely - question the actions of law enforcement officials. If police rapped on your door demanding to be let in, you'd question them wouldn't you?"

NK?

Of course, but that's got nothing to do with all of the people on this thread that claim to question the police whenever they see a diversion

I didn't ask if the OP would, I asked if she does. And I don't believe that she does or that you do

I haven't ever had that opportunity.
So I am not sure what I would do if the police had a road block.
I might ask if the road was closed.
And if they were only letting certain cars through, it would be curious to know why.

And if I said I was going to drive for a walk - and they said that was against the law, I might ask which law.

I can't help what you don't believe
Obviously if it was an obvious road traffic accident or otherwise whatever that's fine but if I was trying to go for a country walk and was stopped I certainly would
Call me a liar if you like

@myhobbyisouting

"This is not NK.

We are allowed to - politely - question the actions of law enforcement officials. If police rapped on your door demanding to be let in, you'd question them wouldn't you?"

NK?

Of course, but that's got nothing to do with all of the people on this thread that claim to question the police whenever they see a diversion

North Korea.

And a 'diversion' is not the same as a police checkpoint. I suspect you know that and are just being obtuse.

Of course, but that's got nothing to do with all of the people on this thread that claim to question the police whenever they see a diversion

Who said anything about a diversion?

If there was a road block where drivers were asked where they were going and were then told that they couldn't go ahead because people aren't allowed to drive to go for a walk, then would you say something?

This thread is a hoot! But back to the original if not edifying point...

A pub or a tea shop is a great thing to have on a walk in the countryside.

True but just a part of the pandemic shitfest that we can't have that pleasure right now.

True but just a part of the pandemic shitfest that we can't have that pleasure right now

Indeed.

A thermos is just not the same.

@ScribblingPixie

If you’re listening to the Peck/Effra &/or their tributaries, there’s the Green Chain Walk - I think it would do the Neckinger but don’t think it reaches over to the Falcon Brook. Obviously if you have the misfortune to be in North London you have my deepest sympathies - & happily that link (from TFL) also has some walks for that side of things

Absolutely do not mean this as a JFGI, but there are lots of walk recs if you Google including themed ones - though obviously it very much depends on exactly where you are.

@Daydreamsinglorioustechnicolor

Can't believe we're here again. Its like fucking groundhog day.

You took the words out of my mouth.

[quote MarieVanGoethem]@ScribblingPixie

If you’re listening to the Peck/Effra &/or their tributaries, there’s the Green Chain Walk - I think it would do the Neckinger but don’t think it reaches over to the Falcon Brook. Obviously if you have the misfortune to be in North London you have my deepest sympathies - & happily that link (from TFL) also has some walks for that side of things

Absolutely do not mean this as a JFGI, but there are lots of walk recs if you Google including themed ones - though obviously it very much depends on exactly where you are.[/quote]
I am in North London and you are very rude haha! So there is a River Effra? As in Effra Road in Brixton? That is new information.
I think one of the ones I can hear is The Moselle Brook, and it's just occurred to me that I could do a walk that follows its route. I have JFGI (thank you, no offence) and there is more than I'd thought. Am thinking I might research local WW11 history via bomb sites and 'street furniture' & write my own walks. Having lost my work via COVID I have a LOT of time on my hands.

I hate the fucking countryside 😂

@Mintjulia thank you for that idea about canals, I will look them up

This is a very heated thread. No need for all this aggression. Rural Norfolk Mumsnetter here. A welcome is extended to all at these difficult times. All we ask is that you park sensibly, behave reasonably and take your rubbish home. Which is what I do when I visit anywhere.

Ah, just seen another post about access re canals...I will bear that in mind.

You are right @ScribblingPixie, London does have some great walks. I have also gained a lot of knowledge (and some envy) of local houses and gardens!

I have a book of London architecture walks which is quite good. I will post a link of I can find it.

I'm semi-rural (village on outskirts of small town), within a 5 mins drive I have 2 moors and a golf course/ex-posh estate with park land. During lockdown they all became far more popular with people driving a similar distance to me and much futher away (talked to someone from 12+ miles away where there are also nice walks). I do think 10-15 should be the acceptable limit of travel, it will give most people some variety and options while likely staying in a similar corona risk area. I regularly go for day trips to an area 35 miles away, still in the same county and because I live on a hill I can't actually see the area from my home but I know I live in a higher risk area so wouldn't dream of going at the moment.

The main thing I took exception to was the absolutely terrible parking - there was lots of parking in passing places with clear no-parking signage. If there's any inkling it might be inappropriate to park there then don't. Accidents still happen in these places and the emergency services need access as well as it being inconvient for locals. I've also noticed a general attitude of appathy and disreguard of some of the people using these rural areas. I've had children (on several occasions) run up to my dog on an extension lead (best place for her in areas with lots of people) and the parents haven't done anythig even when I've called my dog to me. I've also had families and joggers not following 1 way systems in place in certain areas and not attempting to keep their distance either. I just think some people don't know how to use rural spaces, especially at the moment so they just continue as if it was a pavement or road.

I don't mind people coming, but there should be a limit on the distance people can travel and people should take responcibility for travelling to lower risk rural areas and understand people may perceive them as a potential community threat.

@Inkpaperstars

Ah, just seen another post about access re canals...I will bear that in mind.

You are right @ScribblingPixie, London does have some great walks. I have also gained a lot of knowledge (and some envy) of local houses and gardens!

I have a book of London architecture walks which is quite good. I will post a link of I can find it.

@Inkpaperstars, Yes please to the link to the book of architecture walks, that'd be great. Just remembered that Jeremy Corbyn has a passion for the history of London's manhole covers but not sure I can go that far but there must be a lot to learn about social history from what is left around our streets.

And what is goady about saying you can go a walk in the countryside?

It's the "which is lovely" part which is goady. It's pissed it down all weekend in my part of Scotland, with the bonus of force 9 gales yesterday. That's not "lovely". Everything's wet, cold, and muddy. Unlike April which brought longer nights, buds, spring flowers and the suchlike, all November brings is rain, darker days, more rain, cold, more rain and stuff dying before winter sets in.

Some people enjoy walks and that's fine. On a bright day there's nothing better. But it's not "lovely" for everyone. Certainly not for people who'd much rather be shopping, at the cinema, watching a football match, going to a fireworks display, or whatever else is banned.

@myhobbyisouting

"Yes absolutely I would There needs to be a legal basis for the actions of the police And everyone else"

I didn't ask if the OP would, I asked if she does. And I don't believe that she does or that you do.

It is extremely rare that someone approaches a road block and asks for details of the law which the police are acting on. Can you tell I know a lot about roadblocks

I can't say I've ever actually encountered a road block to have the opportunity to ask. Presumably we're now about to hear from posters who've seen little else, but I doubt most people genuinely come across a lot of them in their day to day lives. Which presumably is why you've tried moving the goalposts to diversions instead.

The cafes at my favourite walking spots will still be open for takeaways, so I will still be able to get a tea and a sausage sandwich after a nice long morning walk with the dog. I don't mind the cold or rain much, have a good coat and walking boots so not really bothered about not being to get a pub lunch for a month (or two, or three, who knows).

It's the "which is lovely" part which is goady.It's pissed it down all weekend in my part of Scotland, with the bonus of force 9 gales yesterday. That's not "lovely". Everything's wet, cold, and mudd

I bet it's lovely in your part of Scotland when it's not pissing down though.