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To think that all the idiots have brought us back to total lockdown ?

441 replies

updownroundandround · 31/10/2020 18:02

So frustrated with all the people, from the ineffective and blustering MP to the idiots out trick or treating tonight............

When will people learn that a bloody pandemic cannot be ignored and that insisting on personal freedoms/ personal preferences is NOT going to shorten the lock downs or save the vulnerable ? Sad

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ohthegoats · 31/10/2020 19:58

This lies squarely at the feet of the government. No one else.

Ginfordinner · 31/10/2020 19:59

@gjejgej

I don't wear a mask and I'm proud of it.
Hmm

It is people like you (unless you have a valid reason to be exempt) that have spoiled it for the rest of us.

MaxNormal · 31/10/2020 19:59

Problem is so many lefties think there is a magic money tree.

There's a magic money tree when it comes to giving contracts to their buddies, though. Funny that. Dido Harding?

BeardyButton · 31/10/2020 19:59

There are so so so many threads on mn banging on about how noone can stop people seeing their family, that many intend ignoring advice, that we have to learn to live w the virus.
I blame the Tories. Sure. I also blame the pig ignorant posters on here that think they know better than public health experts...

Giggorata · 31/10/2020 19:59

DappledOliveGroves
@LabiaMinoraPissusFlapus absolutely agree. Bring it on. Why are we screwing the world up to save the over 65s?
Fuck you. That's my parents you're talking about.

Aaaand fuck you once again. That's me you're talking about. One of the many over 65s who are working and paying taxes, and just as much a contributing member of society as anyone else.

More blatant ageism, the only ism that doesn’t get jumped on at Mumsnet. Hmm

formulation · 31/10/2020 20:00

@gjejgej is that due to exemption or do you not believe in Covid / think it’s serious enough to warrant wearing one
Genuinely curious to know the reasoning behind your statement

cuparfull · 31/10/2020 20:01

Boycott Chinese goods, stuff them up like they've stuffed the world through their ineptitude and lying.

But no that would be too difficult because you might have to think before you click online or pay a penny more for British goods.

BoingBoingyBoing · 31/10/2020 20:01

@gjejgej

I don't wear a mask and I'm proud of it.
Ooooo, aren't you a little rebel.
Kazzyhoward · 31/10/2020 20:01

@Livelovebehappy

Blame people who refuse to wear masks, who mix with others ignoring the rules, stupid people who think there’s some conspiracy theory to it all, who refuse to follow rules because they think they don’t apply to them. It doesn’t matter what the government put in place, if idiots refuse to follow the rules, then it’s all pretty pointless. And there are a hell a lot of idiots out there - you really can’t argue with stupid..
Fully agree.
cuparfull · 31/10/2020 20:01

@BoingBoingyBoing

[quote gjejgej]
I don't wear a mask and I'm proud of it.

Ooooo, aren't you a little rebel.[/quote]
Filthy bastard

FolkSongSweet · 31/10/2020 20:03

I’m sure the government would love to put all the blame for their incompetence on individuals. Maybe have a think about precisely why people aren’t obeying the rules - after the shambolic way in which the pandemic has been managed from start to finish people have no faith in the guidelines or anything the government says. It’s been one embarrassing u turn after another.

I know many people who have broken the rules (I’m not one of them) because they say well I can mix with my colleagues and my child is at school so why can’t I see my sister in my own home? There will he a few selfish people who have spread it by eg failing to self isolate when they should and could have done, but the majority of cases will have been spread by people going to work etc before they developed symptoms, or by being missed by the disastrous test and trace system. If the government had a coherent strategy and well-run systems in place (which it should have had by now) then these scenarios wouldn’t even have arisen.

That’s not to say that we don’t all have a personal responsibility to do what we can however.

BeardyButton · 31/10/2020 20:03

@Legoandloldolls your whole post is hilarious....

'Sorry to inform.you, your really not cleverer than those two.'

Im either more intelligent than Boris, or I am less malevolent.

And 'letting nature do its thing'.... What does that mean?!?

formulation · 31/10/2020 20:03

@cuparfull ... interesting idea.
All gone quiet hasn’t it re China 🧐
I do think they’ve got a lot to answer for

akerman · 31/10/2020 20:03

I don’t know how any BJ supporter has the gall at the moment to come and lecture “lefties” for not understanding that there’s no magic money tree.

The Tories have poured twelve billion into a track-and-trace system, run by someone with no experience, that has catastrophically failed. So there clearly is a fucking gigantic money tree pouring it’s bounty into the pockets of Johnson’s friends and Tory donors.

That is one of the most wilfully mendacious twists I’ve seen to date on Mumsnet.

TitsInAbsentia · 31/10/2020 20:04

So I hope all you who are saying why should we worry about over 65s are willing to launch yourselves off a cliff on your 65th birthday so you don't become a burden to the country.

updownroundandround · 31/10/2020 20:04

@ DianaT1969

I hate these nasty blame threads. Started by small people who don't understand the basics of a virus. They don't appreciate all the hard-working people who have been facing Covid daily since March. I imagine the people who write these are curtain twitchers who don't work and contribute very little to society.

Firstly, this thread was started by someone who is on the front line in the NHS, who is working with Covid patients daily.
Secondly, who was it that pissed on your cornflakes this morning ?Hmm

@ MintyMabel

why are we screwing the world up to save the over 65s

Wtaf ?? Who could be this callous, selfish and arrogant ? Really ?
What were you, grown in a field ? Did you never have a loving parent or grandparent ? Not even a friendly (over 65) bloody neighbour ?

It's the over 65's who've actually given you the world you live in ! Without them you'd be speaking german for a start.............Hmm

We're all trying to save people, period.

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Livelovebehappy · 31/10/2020 20:04

bingboingyboing but ‘joe public’ have their part to play in actually using their common sense, and doing what’s asked of them. If the government say every single person is to wear masks and not mix outside their households, then why doesn’t ‘joe publc’ just do it? You can’t reason with people who stand there refusing to wear masks, or who will go mixing with whoever the hell they want, and to hell with the consequences. How can the government be held accountable for the stupidity of the public?

CoronaIsWatching · 31/10/2020 20:05

YABU because the spread is caused by schools. Everything was fine in June, July, August, as soon as schools open there's an explosion of cases. Coincidence? I think not.

maddiemookins16mum · 31/10/2020 20:05

@Marmitecrackers

**This is the fucking useless stupid cunt we have in charge. This fucking clown was who people voted for.

Of course we're in a fucking state.**

No it's the general public that can't behave not the government. They are doing the best they can having never managed a pandemic before & we do have to balance the economy with lockdowns. Problem is so many lefties think there is a magic money tree.

We need to stop being getting together unless it's essential. Using grandparents for childcare, yes but popping in and out of friends houses there is absolutely no justifiable reason for it.

I'm sick of hearing all this " it affects my mental health crap." People dying is a far bigger problem than you want to hang out with a nice group of friends.

Totally agree.
VerticalHorizon · 31/10/2020 20:07

It doesn't mean that someone who contracts the virus is an idiot.
However, plenty of idiots are exacerbating the problem.

Masks are really only a small factor. Hand washing isn't as prevalent as it once was, there are countless door handles, keyboards, lift buttons and such that are being touched every day by hundreds of people - not to mention studies that show the virus can survive a number of hours on some surfaces, up to a number of days on others.

And we still don't fully understand how much of a factor kids are.

However, idiots abound, and they aren't helping.

In truth, I think the vast majority of the public are choosing to break rules at their own discretion. People 'doing their bit', but bending the rules to suit from time to time. It's absolutely understandable and predictable, but if 60 million people are cutting corners, it's going to have an effect.

When our own government is cutting corners (with utterly inadequate restrictions), it's going to have an even bigger effect.

In terms of trying to curb the virus, we're doing a pretty shoddy job.
In terms of getting the right balance between managing the virus and managing the economy, it's more complex.

The measures Boris announced tonight don't go anywhere near far enough to stop the spread. It's incompetent.

Onthelowdown · 31/10/2020 20:07

Agree. Have seen so many people not distancing as much as they can. Have been laughed at for backing away to allow safe distance in supermarket aisles etc. People are not doing as much as they can. Those who have to go out more than I do will be more greatly affected by this, I.e a supermarket worker who gets people coming far too close several times a day can catch it, be asymptomatic, and unknowingly spread the virus. Potentially to their own families. Not their fault, but a natural consequence. Ineffective masks seem to give a false sense of security but so many people aren’t doing as much as they can and I struggle to get past that given the consequences.

PatriciaPerch · 31/10/2020 20:07

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Buddytheelf85 · 31/10/2020 20:07

It’s re-surging all over Europe though. Which I know doesn’t fit in with the oh-so-gratifying ‘it’s all the idiots’ fault’ mentality. But it is, because it’s a virus.

That said, if you are correct in your assumption that non-compliance with the rules is the major driver behind the increased spread, I can’t see the point in introducing new rules. Why not just try harder to enforce compliance with the original rules?

The government has been incredibly circumspect about what specific activities have driven the large rise in cases. My guess is that that is mainly because the data shows some embarrassing class and culture related divides.

gjejgej · 31/10/2020 20:07

[quote formulation]@gjejgej is that due to exemption or do you not believe in Covid / think it’s serious enough to warrant wearing one
Genuinely curious to know the reasoning behind your statement[/quote]
@formulation

Not serious enough to warrant one, and they don't work regardless

LesLavandes · 31/10/2020 20:07

All the rule breakers have given me the rage tonight.

They can go fuck off

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