Do you want another lockdown?

[RosieCrumpet]

YABU - I want a lockdown just like before
YANBU - I don't want to lockdown.
Comment - Any variation on the above.
I'm genuinely curious to see where the majority lie on this - some people will be terrified of losing their jobs and homeschooling again whereas others would love a few more months of WFH or furloughing and extra family time.

@PhilCornwall1 I couldn't agree more with your comments. My DD has been waiting all year for a paediatrician appt which has been cancelled a number of times this year due to covid. Like you we're just told by the GP they can't help as she's under a paediatrician. Ridiculous really as I'm yet to see evidence of the care she's supposedly receiving because of covid.

I’ve cried twice today just because they’ve mentioned it’s probably going to happen, I’m a parent of 3u3 on maternity leave with a husband that works 60 hours a week. I barely made it out of the last lockdown with my sanity and honestly I’m scared of how I will cope with another. It’s cripplingly lonely.

I loved lock down, it was great. No one on the roads and quiet streets.
On the downside, I walk in the woods a lot and as soon as we had lock down everybody just had to get out, I mean everyone. I've been right in the middle of the woods and have seen old people in wheelchairs being push along. Now we out of lockdown the woods are empty again, obviously we only need an hours exercise if we are in lockdown

Do you think people will stick to the rules this time? Or are people just too fed up? Don't think the government will dare to shut schools but if the children are all going out and mixing what's the point of a lockdown?

YABU no I definitely 100% don't

I don't want a lockdown, but I think there is no doubt that we need one. However, I also think there is no point in it unless schools shut, which they won't so it will be pointless.

Now we out of lockdown the woods are empty again, obviously we only need an hours exercise if we are in lockdown

People have probably gone back to work work. Why, out of lockdown would you expect a lot of people to go to the woods. People only went because they had nothing better to do.

No. Absolutely not. The cost to the economy, people's mental heath, general wellbeing, our rights, our freedom, services etc far outweigh any supposed benefits and I don't believe that it'll work.

@AllPlayedOut. Ditto.

@Grapefruitcauliflower

I don’t want one, but I think we need one (or rather, we needed one weeks ago). The longer we put it off, the worse it’ll be.

This. I don't want it, I was furloughed straight out of maternity which had its perks, but my mental health started to suffer hugely. But I know its an inescapable reality, and we will have to "keep calm and carry on"

@VeganVeal

I loved lock down, it was great. No one on the roads and quiet streets. On the downside, I walk in the woods a lot and as soon as we had lock down everybody just had to get out, I mean everyone. I've been right in the middle of the woods and have seen old people in wheelchairs being push along. Now we out of lockdown the woods are empty again, obviously we only need an hours exercise if we are in lockdown

Or you know people are getting their exercise elsewhere? Or it was never about excersize at all more about avoiding cabin fever??

As Nicola Sturgeon considers this (she’ll let Boris be the bad guy) due to our lower prevalence I can see a lot of English people just travelling north to use pubs, restaurants and shop. This will just move the problem as rates will increase in the borders area.

Well, I'm waiting with on the edge of my seat for his monologue.

We've had "flattening the peak", "squashing the sombrero", what's he coming out with today "squeezing the boob of coronavirus"?

The whole situation is a farce.

@fairynick

I doubt anyone WANTS a lockdown, but I think most people deep down know one is needed. It’s funny because the people screaming “I want my life back” “it’s a load of shit” “we can’t keep locking down then opening up” were the same people clapping on their doorsteps earlier this year. How easily we forget. We knew very early on that we are going to have to live with periods of lockdown and then easing before a vaccine becomes available in order for our healthcare systems to not fully collapse and all hell break loose. Yes we’re all sick to death of it, yes our lives are so much shitter now but yes, I do think a lockdown is needed right now unfortunately.

You really do not represent me, you are so wrong to assume ' deep down I know a lockdown is needed'. The first one was do horrible (no outside exercise allowed where I was) I moved to Sweden as soon as I could ffs. And no, I was not clapping for anyone in March/April, quite the opposite! Had a daily alarm at 7:55pm to shut my windows and put some music on to ignore the daily (yes, daily!) mindless clapping going on where I was living at the time. No, I REALLY dont need any new lockdown. I'm really committed to living my life mask free. If Sweden goes bananas I'll be moving to another country (outside of Europe). I had enough of this silly rules and overreaction to a disease so serious you have to be tested to know if you got it or not. What a joke.

My neighbours obviously all want a lockdown because they made a big fuss about how nobody on the road would go trick or treating but would people come to their door to wave at children who would stand on their drives in costumes after lunch. It turned into a fecking tea party with people exchanging home made cakes and biscuits and standing chatting for about an hour without bothering to socially distance or wear masks.

Trick or treating would have been safer.

No, I don't. The government are getting it all wrong. It's pointless going for local or even regional lockdowns. We need to use risk to gauge lockdown.

The chances of anyone under 30 dying of Covid are vanishingly small, so they should be allowed to just get on with life, with virtually no restrictions, but obviously avoid close contact with anyone shielding, or over 70.

Those aged 30-60 should employ a few extra precautions, like wear masks etc, but essentially continue as normal, but again avoid those shielding or over 70.

Eventually herd immunity will be acquired.

No , I dont want another lockdown.
The damage to peoples mental health will be catastrophic. You're not saving any health service by making a backlog of thousands of other patients, all the while creating even more health problems both physically and mentally by throwing people into poverty.
There is not a chance in hell I am spending another prolonged period away from my family this winter. I will have a mental breakdown if I do.
I would be more likely to comply with rolling lockdowns if the "free" periods were 100% normal - no social distancing , masks, big events allowed, parties etc. But nah, weve to live with life rolling from mostly shit to just pure shit? Nah.

Public of Britain shocked as a virus behaves likes a virus.

Breaking news - NHS overrun in winter due to a virus! As has happened every year!

Scores of people shout for the future of this country, our children, to be denied the education their parents received.

Headlines in 20 years

Anger as politicians fail to run the country after they were denied an education and were unable to take their exams back in 2020/21

A generation of pensioners just cannot understand why our country is in such a mess after denying their children the right to a FULL education in high school.

Remembering the NHS, before the Lockdown Era and the economic destruction of a country meant there was no public fund to pay for it.

The cost of Health Insurance rockets as Britain is forced to enter the new age of privatised health care after scores of people made unemployed and needing to claim benefits destroyed the tax system and plunged the country into debt in 2020/21

Lockdown might prevent people dying from Covid, but conversely it is also killing people by denying them GP access, tests, operations, screening. I belong to a FB breast cancer group and there are women on there denied surgery, because of Covid, and all the while their cancer cells are growing.

Covid lockdown is also killing people by inches e.g. those who have MH issues. Those who have lost their jobs. Those who are separated from loved ones. Those who are losing their homes and livelihoods. Those who have lost hope. Those who wake up frightened every morning.

There are far more ways to die than to just end up in a coffin and cremated.

Always worth reposting the words of wisdom from Professor Devi Sridhar. This is wrt the economy (my bold):

On a panel with several CEOs yesterday and their message was clear -> it's the virus impacting consumer behaviour & their businesses, not just restrictions. Already clear that controlling the virus with a clear strategy is best route to economic recovery.

I don’t want another lockdown and think further lockdowns are pointless and think if we enforced a proper social distancing that would be better.I did Strictly obey the last one and in my household of 5 adults only one person went out once a week to buy food. We have a garden so didn’t even take up the daily hours walk as we can get plenty of exercise cutting the grass and doing general maintenance. I even took unpaid careers leave as I care for my wheelchair bound nearly 90 mother.
If we have another lockdown I can’t afford to take anymore unpaid leave and I work in retail on the shop floor so will just have to take my chances.
Oh and during the last lockdown I didn’t go out and clap like a seal. Nor did I put up endless post on Facebook or paint rainbows on rocks. I ignored all the virtual signalling and had a quite eye roll at the bloke from next door banging his pan and then the next day having his grandkids in his garden.

But on another note I have just come in from doing my weekly shop at Tesco. The place is heaving and people are already filing their trolleys with loo roll and extra tins so it looks like the panic buying has started up in readiness for Boris locking down again.

Prof Sridhar explaining the obvious wrt healthcare access during a pandemic (again, my bold):

Such false logic: uncontrolled spread doesn’t mean ‘just some people die.’ It means health services collapsing bc of high COVID hospitalisation rate (so all patients suffer), lasting economic damage from people being scared & changing behaviour, & society going backwards.

I'm fine with another lockdown but wish they'd consider certain services (hair salons and gyms) as essential. I often feel the affect of lockdown on mental health is over looked and trivialised. I was really struggling earlier this year but as soon as I got a haircut and was able to do a gym session, I felt so much better.

Don't want one but think we need one and should have had one over half term.