Do you want another lockdown?

[RosieCrumpet]

YABU - I want a lockdown just like before
YANBU - I don't want to lockdown.
Comment - Any variation on the above.
I'm genuinely curious to see where the majority lie on this - some people will be terrified of losing their jobs and homeschooling again whereas others would love a few more months of WFH or furloughing and extra family time.

That’s why the government has to pay to support people and businesses to get through this.

The first lockdown had mass compliance (due to totally irrational mass panic) and the advantage of seasonality (its really pretty obvious that Covid is massively seasonal - we'll never know to what extent rates might have fallen anyway coming into summer, although Sweden offers a clue). A second lockdown will have neither of these advantages and won't last nearly as long, as the country literally can't afford it and the population are exhausted. So it will be lifted in early December, and rates will quickly soar again, exacerbated by the fact no one will keep the rules at Christmas. And then what? Another go in January, with an even more fatigued population? Then round four in March?

And the government should pay for all this? With what? Is there a literally infinite supply of money out there I haven't heard about? People who thought the last round of austerity was bad really have no idea whats coming. And I'm by and large a lefty Labour voter, so when I'm making that kind of argument... .

Will Dominic Scummings obey the roolz this time? If Saint Boris says it’s for a fortnight, or a month, will he swear, on his grave, that it will end when he says it will?

If you're in a high Covid area in a high risk job you will see the necessity of lockdown. If you're not ... you'll see it in a few weeks.

No, No No. I work in the NHS.

I don't want another lockdown. So far, it is a minority of irrationally fearful people who has dictated all the lockdown and restrictions. Our normally sensible people have stoped thinking, to be led by a small group of scientists with dubious credentials. Who is going to pay for all the benefits and state aids handed out like free meals by the government? Do you have any idea how much scam is going on from tgise who take advantage of government aids? People are suffering from increasing mental health problems like frogs getting cooked slowly. Those who want a lockdown need to wake up, because it will one day come back to bite you as higher taxes, less funding for schools/NHS/state services, unless of course you live on benefits and wish the country to go down with you.

“Is there a literally infinite supply of money out there I haven't heard about?”

Technically, yes. There are billions of pounds currently slipping away to private companies doing terrible jobs.

The government would need to borrow, as governments always do at times of national crisis. And it’s not wasted money because it keeps jobs and the economy going, keeps society functioning, so that when the virus fades, due to vaccines, medicines or it just mutating to a weaker form, we are still on our feet and ready to go into a period of prosperity again eventually. That’s always how things work. It was only the myth about austerity being a good thing that put us in this terrible situation without enough frontline workers. Countries aren’t like family budgets. Investment is part of the process.

No, No No. I work in the NHS

I have a friend who works across 3 hospitals in Birmingham, she says the same

I don’t want it but I think it needs to happen The sooner the better

I’m sure like France they shall keep school open which I think is important but understand teachers concerns

Hollowtree3

I work for the nhs too I don’t think things will grind to a halt like they did before

All colleagues apart from those that support the Swedish way are wanting a lock down

I guess it depends what area you work in and where.

Can't afford another strict lockdown, we don't WFH. It won't work either as the virus is looking less deadly, and the covid cases will start going up again once it's reopened.

It will be an economic disaster, it will impact badly people with cronic illnesses, people who need surgeries or with other ailments.

Oh, and Brexit.it's pointless to compare the UK with New Zealand, which has 5mln people on a country the size of the UK, in England the population density is much higher.

It’s pointless having a lockdown unless schools are closed too to be honest.

I don’t want schools to close particularly either.

One sensible thing the Gov could do is keep primary schools open full time and do blended learning at secondary level. This is exactly what teachers asked for in the summer. Instead we have thousands of pupils missing school every week across the country with all the accompanying disadvantage.

Failing that they could at least make masks compulsory in secondary classrooms compulsory if they are going to cram kids in like sardines ignoring social distancing guidelines. They could make sure every school has good ventilation.

But no. Because we have a shower of incompetent twats who chose magical thinking over understanding how a highly contagious respiratory virus spreads.

AllDoneIn let’s hope the government listens this time

Schools will no doubt stay open I’m all for secondary pupils wearing masks (with some exceptions)

I definitely do not. But I voted YABU because thanks to the government plodding ahead and ignoring that their restrictions weren't working, we will end up seeing hospitals overwhelmed. This will affect everyone.

I don't agree that schools will remain open how they are now. There needs to be more measures in place. Masks, distancing, blended learning and an actual choice for all parents to home educate without the threats.

That is I don't agree schools should remain as they are now. I also think it will cause even further non compliance for them to remain compulsory. I was reading Canada has open schools but parents are given the choice of online learning along side that.

@ChardonnaysPetDragon

No.

But we will get one because people have been arsing around not wearing masks and ignoring the rules of how many can gather and now we’re all fucked.

Pretty much sums it up.

I thought we'd moved on from people salivating about A PROPER lockdown, with people banned from leaving their houses and the police shooting people on sight.

Because that worked SO well in Spain, didn't it? Spain is Covid free!

No more lockdowns.

I don't want it but I can see why it's necessary. We can't allow hospitals to become overwhelmed or we'll end up in a situation where people are dying because there are no hospital beds available. That can't be allowed to happen.

Lockdowns don’t eradicate Covid that is not the reason for them

They slow down the spread of the virus so less people catch it and less people need to be hospitalised and ultimately less people die

@Washimal

I don't want one, but the current restrictions were never going to cut it. Certainly not with schools and universities going back at the same time.

My concern is that if they allow people to travel abroad and keep secondary schools and universities open it will all be for nought. IMO if we're going to lockdown we should keep primary schools and nurseries open but secondary should be blended learning (one week in school, one week off for most kids but vulnerable students can be in full time as they were in first lockdown) and universities should move to all remote teaching. Foreign travel should be stopped, none of this corridor bullshit. Otherwise it's just pointless, more damage to the economy with no significant impact on the number of cases.

Seems sensible to me.

Every person who wants a lockdown, no matter how faux resigned they sound usually has a secret selfish reason for wanting it

I don’t think anyone sane can want lockdown.

However I think a lot of us realise the Govt have given us no choice but to accept it. Utter ineptitude

Definitely not. Completely fed up of it all.