To ask what on Earth wales are doing?

[Whenismumhome]

I don’t live in Wales but I’ve heard that they’re having a “firebreak” and shops cannot sell non essential items.

AIBU to think that that is just a step too far and completely over the top? Ok fair enough, tell people to stay at home but surely if someone needs to go shopping for essentials they can buy non essentials whilst they’re in a specific shop.

@Shiverywinterbottom yes!! Great! I think it shows times are changing when there are a few of us on a mumsnet thread! Annibyniaeth! 🙏🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

In your title question, why does earth have a capital letter but Wales does not?

@JesusInTheCabbageVan dont know why your posting things like that when all I've seen is Wales refusing to sell women sanitary products, some bloke shopping in his boxers because clothes are no longer essential and no ability to buy alcohol from even shops after 10. Wales is a fucking shambles but cheers I'll go down the pub for my sunday lunch this weekend and go see my mum on her birthday Thursday

I'm on Wales and shocked at the amount of people who've got a broken or lost their tin opener since 6pm last Friday night.
Then there are those that are on SM distressed at having to buy a kettle on Amazon instead of at Tesco or Asda. Baffles me..... so you're supporting one huge conglomerate for another. I'd understand being aggrieved more if they had intended to buy their new kettle from a small local independent shop but why get so distressed at not lining Tesco or Asdas pockets instead of Amazon??

I get the principle of not wanting to be told what we can and cannot buy but it was done with good intentions for smaller local traders. Also in the main lockdown back in the spring people were going to Asda and Tesco purely for a family afternoon out, not for food but just a browse and wander around the clothes and home section purely to pasd tge time. Mumsnettets were very proud of their suggestion of something to do to pass an hour or so during lockdown, suggesting people do just this.
I imagine another element to the strict rules was to prevent this problem as well. I don't think rules were put in place to prevent someone bunging a duvet, wooden spoon, toaster, vests for the kids in their trolley as the whizzed around Tesco, but yo prevent the people just wanting a trip out.

Don't get me wrong. I am very sure there are people needing and wanting items urgently who never shop online etc but sadly it's a case of others taking the kids and not staying hone as much as possible, which is what we're all supposed to be doing yet again right now.

I'm so low I'm not from this locality and not seen anyone for weeks. My friends sre in another borough and family in England. I am V v v pissed off with the endless fucking rules but think most (not all) people are just loving a good ole moan about this and actually arent that bothered at the reality of buying off Amazon instead of Tesco, it's more to do with being pissed off at new restrictions.

I suppose 17 days feels like fucking ages to us bored at home (job hunting daily in my case) but as for fire breaking the spread of this shitty virus, it's a very short time frame and unless people do stop unnecessary mingling and don't stay hone as much as possible it won't make the spread slow like they hope it will.

Common sense is what's needed but shop staff (can't blame them) don't want to be the ones saying no you cant just cone in to wander around George/F&F, but the WG laying down the law has pissed people off.

Op I don’t find your question patronising and you’ve only asked what I and many others I know, are also asking. I don’t think the two week firebreak is going to achieve anything at all but stick another nail in our Economy and cause more hardship to those who are struggling already. I’ve got at Year 11 child who can do without an extra week for half term, followed by a week’s online lessons.

Yanbu, it is awful. They've already shown lockdown doesn't work.

I'm fine with it too. Had a shopping list for Lidl, then popped into Home Bargains for oxo cubes not available in Lidl, bought a few items of food, back home within an hour. No mooching or overshopping, quite pleased with myself.

However I am fed up of people who moan they can't read at home because they can't buy a book. If you are an avid reader surely you have a few books at home you can re-read. People always look at the what ifs. Cross that bridge if you come to it.

And living close to the English border with transmission much higher than here, it feels much safer having our lock down.

I walked to our local country park today. It was lovely and quiet. Most locals avoided it all summer because it was overrun and really didn't feel safe.

@mum11970

Op I don’t find your question patronising and you’ve only asked what I and many others I know, are also asking. I don’t think the two week firebreak is going to achieve anything at all but stick another nail in our Economy and cause more hardship to those who are struggling already. I’ve got at Year 11 child who can do without an extra week for half term, followed by a week’s online lessons.

Extra week AND a week’s online lessons? Why? It’s a week of half term and a week of online. You make it sound like 3 weeks. It’s 2. And our Y11 have lost 2 weeks already to positive tests. This may reduce the chance of that happening for a bit.

I do not know a single person in Wales who supports this approach.
Most are worried about the far reaching implications of a first minister being able to at will decree things such as books being non essential, or clothes for example.
Its a worrying slide.
And I wonder... All the fervent supporters of this two week lockdown.. What exactly do you think is going to happen when it's lifted?
You do realise that Mark drayford speaks as if the virus is a naughty school boy that needs a "short sharp shock" to see the error of its ways.
Hardly credible, even safe said firebreak/circuit breaks would have minimal overall effect.
So when this firebrreak is over and cases rise again will you all be happy to go back into lockdown... Over and over again.
With the cumulative effect on your economy, your Yr 11 and yr13 children being severely disadvantaged compared to English counterparts.
Will mark drayford guarentee he will get doe to take this into account.. Is mark drayford and people clamouring for indeprnce going to guarentee the enormous amount of money businesses and families are going to need to survive endless firebreaks??
Cus frankly I am happy you have independence.. Go for it... And don't look to the rest of the UK to bail you out financially.

@RajaGemini

How many people actually believe it's 'just' 2 weeks though ? Wasn't it 'just' 3 weeks back in March ?

No. It was never ‘just three weeks’. They said they would review after 3, there was never a promise of an end date. There is with this. Drakeford has said he’s not looking for any particular effect by the end of lockdown as it will take 2 more weeks to really see if it had an effect. There is no review, just an end date. If I’m wrong, please feel free to @ me and say ‘I told you so’.

@Theredjellybean

I do not know a single person in Wales who supports this approach. Most are worried about the far reaching implications of a first minister being able to at will decree things such as books being non essential, or clothes for example. Its a worrying slide. And I wonder... All the fervent supporters of this two week lockdown.. What exactly do you think is going to happen when it's lifted? You do realise that Mark drayford speaks as if the virus is a naughty school boy that needs a "short sharp shock" to see the error of its ways. Hardly credible, even safe said firebreak/circuit breaks would have minimal overall effect. So when this firebrreak is over and cases rise again will you all be happy to go back into lockdown... Over and over again. With the cumulative effect on your economy, your Yr 11 and yr13 children being severely disadvantaged compared to English counterparts. Will mark drayford guarentee he will get doe to take this into account.. Is mark drayford and people clamouring for indeprnce going to guarentee the enormous amount of money businesses and families are going to need to survive endless firebreaks?? Cus frankly I am happy you have independence.. Go for it... And don't look to the rest of the UK to bail you out financially.

Well, there seems to be plenty on this thread who do support this approach.

If Wales manage to get on top of the virus, imagine how stupid England will look as they roll out tier 4, and then 5 and possibly 6, all because they don’t want to call it ‘lockdown’ when effectively, it is a lockdown, just going by a different name. Because we know PM Cumm - sorry Johnson likes slogans.

(BTW I’m in England and I’m enviously of Wales and Scotland - they have governments who are responsible)

@Theredjellybean I’m assuming you have seen the death figures in England today? As many people have said, maybe focus on what’s happening under an incompetent Westminster government rather than worrying about what’s happening over the border in Cymru

I do not know a single person in Wales who supports this approach
Well that’s odd. @Theredjellybean . I know a few who are a bit about the no non-essential items ruling, but every single lessons I know, across 6 counties of Wales (I’ve moved around a bit) Is broadly in support. As are the overwhelming number of Welsh commenters on this thread.

*envious

@Theredjellybean

I do not know a single person in Wales who supports this approach. Most are worried about the far reaching implications of a first minister being able to at will decree things such as books being non essential, or clothes for example. Its a worrying slide. And I wonder... All the fervent supporters of this two week lockdown.. What exactly do you think is going to happen when it's lifted? You do realise that Mark drayford speaks as if the virus is a naughty school boy that needs a "short sharp shock" to see the error of its ways. Hardly credible, even safe said firebreak/circuit breaks would have minimal overall effect. So when this firebrreak is over and cases rise again will you all be happy to go back into lockdown... Over and over again. With the cumulative effect on your economy, your Yr 11 and yr13 children being severely disadvantaged compared to English counterparts. Will mark drayford guarentee he will get doe to take this into account.. Is mark drayford and people clamouring for indeprnce going to guarentee the enormous amount of money businesses and families are going to need to survive endless firebreaks?? Cus frankly I am happy you have independence.. Go for it... And don't look to the rest of the UK to bail you out financially.

@Theredjellybean you can’t claim to not know any supporters of the lockdown and then address the supporters in the same post. It’s contradictory. Also, I don’t know who Mark Drayford is but he certainly isn’t the first minister.

first minister being able to at will decree things such as books being non essential, or clothes for example
Also, wilful misinterpretation. Nobody is saying the items are not essential, just that it isn’t essential to buy them in a shop for 17 days. As you well know.

Why is everybody so angry jeeeez 😁

It's okay, OP, I think they assumed you were from England. Clearly everyone hates the English 🤷‍♀️

I agree. It will certainly end after two weeks. I reserve the right to moan a bit about the books in Tesco. I normally buy mine in charity shops. Dh’s favourite magazine was in Tesco and I was allowed to buy that!

@Theredjellybean Seems the English want Welsh independence too 😂 Win win I say!

@Waxonwaxoff0

I don't get it. Clothing is essential.

But people can usually manage a couple of weeks with what they have.

I think it’s fairly obvious from the responses on here that lots of people in wales are a bit tired of people over the border in england commenting on what’s happening in wales when what’s happening in England is a total fucking shit show. Stay in your own lane!

I am happy you have independence.. Go for it... And don't look to the rest of the UK to bail you out financially
Aaaaah. Was going to waste my time addressing a whole heap of other crap in your post, but this is revealing. You began the post as though you were Welsh with your talk if all the Welsh people whose opinion you knew. But you aren’t, are you? You’re one of those who look down on Wales from outside. Bail you out financially my arse. We all pay taxes. England gets power and water from us at below cost. What we get back is basically our taxes plus a share of the U.K. borrowing. We could borrow ourselves. Wales has a bigger tax take per capita than NZ. When did they need bailing out by Westminster?