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To think lying about nationality is a red flag?

283 replies

Ribrabrob · 22/10/2020 16:18

Newly dating somebody. He told me he was a certain nationality - even showed me on the map where he was from. He happened to come up on my suggested friends on Facebook (guess maybe our phones linked) and naturally I took a look at his profile. Different first name and he’s quite clearly a different nationality to what he told me.

Now the nationality he actually is, sadly has a bit of a negative reputation and so I can kind of understand why he would lie (don’t get me wrong, I don’t think he shouldn’t be proud of where he is from, but I can just see where he is perhaps coming from with lying). The nationality he told me actually is is probably quite similar in their culture, way of life etc.

I won’t be disclosing the nationalities as I don’t want to make this thread about that - what concerns me is the lying. Aibu to see this as a red flag and get rid? Would I be silly to continue? After all, what else could he lie about? Obviously I will talk to him but want to know if I’d be silly continuing see him.

Shame as he ticks all the other boxes of what I’m looking for and want and we seem (seemed?) very much on the same page in relation to goals etc.

OP posts:
SchrodingersImmigrant · 23/10/2020 14:32

She was In love with him so forgave him, he ended up getting citizenship (even though they knew he was illegal) and she married him.
He wasn't illegal when he sorted the citizenship. You have be here legally for certain time. However, he was lucky it didn't cause them to reject it based on good character.

lobster12 · 23/10/2020 14:47

@SchrodingersImmigrant

She was In love with him so forgave him, he ended up getting citizenship (even though they knew he was illegal) and she married him. He wasn't illegal when he sorted the citizenship. You have be here legally for certain time. However, he was lucky it didn't cause them to reject it based on good character.
This was about 5 years ago, hard to remember the ins and outs so I probably said the wrong thing. I remember they both had to go to court to plead for him to stay here so that must have been the bit before applying for citizenship. I'm not sure how it all works. Yeah they were very lucky he was able to stay.
SchrodingersImmigrant · 23/10/2020 14:55

Yeah, it's long and complicated process getting citizenship. Tbh I suspect they just said at that point he got it so people wouldn't be asking because he would first have to have 3+ (depending on situation) years here legally. Or they said it so they don't have to explain what definite and indefinite leaves are😁

zigaziga · 23/10/2020 15:06

It wouldn’t necessarily be a red flag for me but I’d ask.

For instance, I’ve known friends that had Israeli citizenship and had spent a lot of time in Israel but were born and spent their early life elsewhere, one in Russia. Sometimes that particular person has said they are from Russia, sometimes Israel (and sometimes they’d just go with being British). Neither is a lie but it’s just complicated.

I also know a friend whose family came from India who would definitely say he’s Indian because he was also born there and all his family are from India and because he speaks Hindi with his parents but actually he spent from 2 years old until adulthood in a European country before moving to the U.K... if it were him I’m sure he could go on about the part of India he is “from” and talk about the history and whatnot but his Facebook would show the European country.

SimonJT · 23/10/2020 15:19

@DTIsOnlyForNow

I call myself Pakistani as its simple, when in reality I’m Balti but most people haven’t heard of that (apart from the food), so its just easier

Balti is an ethnicity, not a nationality, so if we're talking about nationality you are Pakistani, yes? There's no Balti passport.

OP, depends which nationality. And names, well in some countries you have many names which you use differently depending on context. Your sleuthing may have led you down the wrong path entirely.

My nationality is British, just to add additional layers of confusion.

Plus if I’m talking to someone else from the Indian subcontinent I have to be very careful as both the indian and pakistani government dislike Baltistan.

FairFridaythe13th · 23/10/2020 15:26

I never knew Balti was a place! Fascinating here sometimes...

GoldfishParade · 23/10/2020 15:28

FYI my sister says she is irish. She doesnt sound irish or have an irish passport. She is british. But she never lived in the UK (we left when she was a baby) and for most of her years including formative years we were in ireland

SimonJT · 23/10/2020 15:35

@FairFridaythe13th

I never knew Balti was a place! Fascinating here sometimes...
It isn’t just a curry! Which is actually named after the metal bowl the food is served in.

We generally look quite different to people who are ethnically Indian or Pakistani, we have pale skin, many of us have green eyes (me included) some blue, and brown or even light hair is fairly common. We also don’t generally face facial features you would associate with someone who is ethnically indian or pakistani.

When I don’t have a tan people often think I’m Italian or Spanish because they see light brown skin, green eyes, dark hair. Where as to a fellow Asian its fairly obvious what my ethnicity is.

DTIsOnlyForNow · 23/10/2020 15:43

I never knew Balti was a place! Fascinating here sometimes...

It isn't a place. It's a people, an ethnicity. Baltistan is a place, but its part of Pakistan administered Kashmir.

FairFridaythe13th · 23/10/2020 15:44

So more like Persians then? But on the other side.

SimonJT · 23/10/2020 15:47

@FairFridaythe13th

So more like Persians then? But on the other side.
Hmmm kind of, in simple terms we’re a mix of persian and tibetan.
FairFridaythe13th · 23/10/2020 15:52

Ah I see. At the top towards Russia (very ish). Really interesting.

(I didn’t do geography at school and always groan when geography questions come up in quizzes).

SchrodingersImmigrant · 23/10/2020 15:52

Isn't it on The Silk road?
The area around it is fascinating and that's my bucket list to visit and explore.

DTIsOnlyForNow · 23/10/2020 15:52

Ethnically tibetan with some dardic, specifically

FairFridaythe13th · 23/10/2020 15:54

Dardic - I’ve leaned something else today!

SchrodingersImmigrant · 23/10/2020 15:54

I like how this thread developed btw😂

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 23/10/2020 15:55

I’m guessing Albanian.

user1471565182 · 23/10/2020 15:57

Very common in Eastern europe to be officially from one country but to be of a different nationality/ethnicity.

user1471565182 · 23/10/2020 16:02

Then you have places like the crimea which was ukraine 10 years ago but is now russia.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 23/10/2020 16:05

I was just typing up about Crimea, but it got stuck!
It got annexed by Russia in 2014.

There are changes to countries all the time.

CleverCatty · 23/10/2020 16:05

I knew an Albanian girl - one of DB's ex GF's who was Albanian but got a fake Italian passport and claimed to be Italian - she 'fessed up to DB.

It wouldn't have bothered me either way.

user1471565182 · 23/10/2020 16:06

As for Albania, I remember when Adnan Januzaj came through as a decent player and he could have played for Alabania, Kosovo, Serbia, Montenegro, Belgium or England even though he has just albanian parents.

Stars1979 · 23/10/2020 16:57

So has the OP confronted him yet?

SchrodingersImmigrant · 23/10/2020 16:59

We will probably never know. Doubt OP is coming back

MrMeSeeks · 23/10/2020 18:32

But people put anything on fb, two of my friends-don’t use their real names on there, but nicknames ( but you wouldn't know that, you would think they were completely different first and last names)