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If No-Deal, BJ has a moral imperative to resign.

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zefi · 19/10/2020 08:48

Do they honestly think the public won’t notice the not-so subtle shift in terminology to “Australian-Style Deal?” Clearly, the latest Cummings brainwave.

No - it’s “No-Deal.” As in - nothing and you have failed. You can put whatever spin on it you like, it won’t wash.

I did laugh yesterday when MG was rambling on about this “Australian-style Deal” and Andrew Marr asked why “Australian” as opposed to a “Mongolian-Style Deal” or an “Afghan” one?

Basically, we are likely to be out in less favourable terms than Canada.

Surely, this has to be the end if this government?

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DynamoKev · 19/10/2020 09:32

More people voted for a Non-Tory than voted Tory last time as in most of our wank elections.

Stefoscope · 19/10/2020 09:36

I've seen it reported that he's allegedly going to resign next spring as he doesn't get paid enough. Hopefully, he doesn't make us wait that long, having said that I'm not sure any of the potential successors will do a much better job. Boris has always given the impression he had one foot out the door imo; he was the same when he was Mayor. PM was just a short step on a ladder to him getting a more lucrative role consulting, etc.

Nottherealslimshady · 19/10/2020 09:36

No one could have got us the deal we wanted. We wanted to have everything we get from being with them without giving them anything. It was a stupid thing to try to do and I'm pissed off with every stupid fucker that suggested it and voted for it. Its gonna fuck us up big time and then we're gonna beg to rejoin on worse terms or try and do a similar thing with America who will screw us over.
But hey, at least we wont have all them foreigners coming to take our jobs that we refuse to do ourselves eh?!

Youandmeareluckytobeus · 19/10/2020 09:37

Didn't we also vote some years back on whether we wanted a different voting system?

looseddaughter · 19/10/2020 09:38

Hahaha - Johnson as a consultant??? Telling people how to turn everything to shit?? He'll be an after-dinner speaker, 'writer', celebrity.

MarshaBradyo · 19/10/2020 09:38

It doesn’t help if he walks. Same as when Cameron did. People voted for it and if he swans off we are still stuck with the mess.

DynamoKev · 19/10/2020 09:41

@Youandmeareluckytobeus

Didn't we also vote some years back on whether we wanted a different voting system?
Yes we did but it was poorly publicised and turnout was low. I guess a fair proportion of people never even stop to think about why we have such a shit system (used by almost no other country).
thebabessavedme · 19/10/2020 09:47

I know i should care about what happens within politics and our country but honestly, I'm so sick of the whole sorry shit show that it has all become I can no longer raise an eyebrow.

There is not one person in government that I can believe in, respect or ever vote for, not one of them stands up to scrutiny.

PardonMyFrancais · 19/10/2020 09:50

He should absolutely resign, he's been a nightmare for this country.

I will never forgive anyone who voted for him (including my DM who said that he was a great 'showman' and would bring the country together Hmm)

Who would you want to replace him? Everyone in his cabinet is a twat.

Pumperthepumper · 19/10/2020 09:53

He should be legally forced to stay in position, this is his mess! Shafting the entire nation on a failed ego trip then swanning off to let someone else clear it up? See also: David Cameron.

ShebaShimmyShake · 19/10/2020 09:55

How about "The Swedish Deal"? Because you get better cabinets in IKEA.

Moonmelodies · 19/10/2020 10:00

More people voted for a Non-Tory than voted Tory last time as in most of our wank elections.

But very few voted for the only Non-brexit party.

CrappleUmble · 19/10/2020 10:08

Not sure there's much point applying the term moral to Boris Johnson. Though I reckon he'll be off soon enough anyway. His own MPs are realising how fucking useless he is, and Murdoch has turned against him so it's only a matter of time.

MarinPrime · 19/10/2020 10:09

I bet he's longing to resign with the pandemic and a recession looming. Why would he put himself through all that if he didn't have to?
It wasn't what he signed up for.

Whether there's a deal or not he could say he's got us out of the EU and has decided it's now time for someone else to take over.

CrappleUmble · 19/10/2020 10:10

@Youandmeareluckytobeus

Didn't we also vote some years back on whether we wanted a different voting system?
Depends what you mean by 'a different voting system'. We voted on whether to switch to AV specifically. Hence there were people like me, who very much want a different voting system, who didn't vote to change to that one because it too would be shit. Although to be quite honest, I think most of the British public want to boil their heads when the issue of which electoral system we should use is raised.
PardonMyFrancais · 19/10/2020 10:20

@Moonmelodies I voted Labour because they were calling for another referendum, which I think is what we needed.

I don't think Brexit should ever have ever been carried out with such a small margin in the first place, especially since only 72% of people voted.

Politics has been a steaming pile of shite since 2016.

BaileysforBreakfast · 19/10/2020 10:31

I don't think no deal is good but I don't agree he has to resign, he has always been clear he would take the no deal option if negotiations didn't go his way and everyone who voted for him knew that.

This is such a sweeping and erroneous statement. The prospect of 'no deal' was not mentioned at all in his election campaigning.

Stefoscope · 19/10/2020 10:31

Politics has been a steaming pile of shite since 2016. What were the positives before this point? Genuine question as I've been eligible to vote for the past 20 years and can't think of a single Labour or Conservative candidate I've actually been rooting for to win. I'm always perplexed by people who are so die hard Conservative or Labour. To me it's like voting for which colour shit sandwich you think may be slightly more palatable.

MissHoney85 · 19/10/2020 10:36

I once read about Johnson (can't bear to call him 'Boris') that he wanted to be made PM and he wants to have been PM, but he's not actually interested in being PM.

That said, I can't see him actually going. There's no real alternative at the moment (at least not anyone who will want to muddy their name with all the shit that's about to come our way) and a good proportion of the Tory base will lap up No Deal.

DynamoKev · 19/10/2020 10:37

[quote PardonMyFrancais]@Moonmelodies I voted Labour because they were calling for another referendum, which I think is what we needed.

I don't think Brexit should ever have ever been carried out with such a small margin in the first place, especially since only 72% of people voted.

Politics has been a steaming pile of shite since 2016.[/quote]
If we'd had PR we probably would never have had the referendum in my humble opinion.
One of the consequences of our shitty system is that main parties have to be such a broad church as to be meaningless - you can't be sure what they stand for as they stand for such a range of shit.
Perhaps if UKIP had actually got elected anywhere, we'd have seen how shit they were (that certainly happened in a few local councils) and the Tories could have split in UKIP and a pro-EU Tory party. Same with Labour.

DynamoKev · 19/10/2020 10:41

@Stefoscope

Politics has been a steaming pile of shite since 2016. What were the positives before this point? Genuine question as I've been eligible to vote for the past 20 years and can't think of a single Labour or Conservative candidate I've actually been rooting for to win. I'm always perplexed by people who are so die hard Conservative or Labour. To me it's like voting for which colour shit sandwich you think may be slightly more palatable.
Politics was ruined for me at the precise moment Thatcher smashed the post-war consensus. The Labour landslide in 1945 had informed policy since then up until 1979 - politicians of both sides knew people wanted decent standards in all kinds of things. Thatcher smashed that, Blair continued it and we have been a right-wing nation that shits on ordinary people ever since.
SerendipityJane · 19/10/2020 10:42

from my inbox .. notice the nice Mr. Goves pronouncements of 2016. Just in case you wanted to save time listening to his drivel today.

If No-Deal, BJ has a moral imperative to resign.
CakeRequired · 19/10/2020 10:55

On a point of pedantry, he wasn’t born here (assuming you mean UK)

My bad, forgot that. Change it to the biggest tosser that was ever PM. Grin

TwentyViginti · 19/10/2020 10:59

@zefi

In a coffee shop yesterday, I actually heard a woman (must have been in her 60s) announce quite positively - “We’re going to be like Australia now!”

I can’t cope. Do they think the sun will shine and koalas will take to the trees. It’s as if they can throw any old scraps to some people and they’ll be eternally delighted.

I'm in my 60s. Do I have to eat Vegemite instead of Marmite now?
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zefi · 19/10/2020 11:05

Yes Twenty. The Australian-Style Deal means free Vegemite for all. The deal is oven-ready!

MG is a shocker, he really is.

I must say, BJ fie strike me as looking defeated these days, despite his best attempts. More mumbling and erring and furtive sideways glances than usual... I can only hope its a sign that he is soon to bigger off.

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