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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be purposefully late?

269 replies

Crunchycadbury · 19/10/2020 08:19

I work weekend evenings and by the time I travel home, shower, eat and go to bed it's gone past midnight. I also have bouts of insomnia where I'm unable to sleep until gone 2-3am meaning sometimes I only have 5 or less hours sleep.

My child is in nursery two days per week, Monday and Tuesday. He starts at 9 and finishes at 4.30. In order to get him there on time I have to get up at 7am to get myself and the two kids ready. Breakfast. 30 minute walk both ways.

Given that nursery isn't compulsory I'm starting to resent the rushing and lack of sleep which is causing me to feel burnt out.

It doesn't help that they are 'fussy' and don't like lateness as they want the children to participate in circle time.

AIBU to put my foot down and say he's starting later and that's that?

OP posts:
Bahhhhhumbug · 21/10/2020 09:06

But surely this only affects you on one night/morning.i.e. Sunday night, Monday morning. You have the rest of the week to catch up on your sleep, have relative lie ins.

MummyMayo1988 · 21/10/2020 12:04

YABU!
Why can people now days not follow simple rules? They will literally use any excuse to NOT follow rules?! I just don't understand!
If your DC is attending a free school nursery and they want the children in by 9am then you get them in by 9am.
If you want to dictate and chose your own hours then you put DC in a private nursery and pay for the privilege of picking your own hours! Simple!
I wouldnt go to my kids school and say; "Actually, 9:50 start doesn't work for me. I'll be bringing them in at 10 from now on" ?!

DTIsOnlyForNow · 21/10/2020 12:12

Why can people now days not follow simple rules? They will literally use any excuse to NOT follow rules?! I just don't understand!

Why are some people so dumb as to think they have to follow every rule given to them, even by those who have no right to make rules, or make no sense?

DappledThings · 21/10/2020 13:18

If you want to dictate and chose your own hours then you put DC in a private nursery
It is a private nursery.

OperationallySound · 21/10/2020 13:31

The governing body OFSTED will want to know why the child is arriving late?

Why would OFSTED want to know if a 2 year old child is late to nursery?

Blueink · 21/10/2020 13:54

YABU to disrupt the structured routine they have & compromise the hours your children are being funded to attend. I’m sorry about your sleep and have had bouts of it too, it can be really tough, but that’s what there is to manage. Meanwhile work around it or rest when you can but being late, disrupting others and expecting everyone to compensate for your being tired isn’t on.

DTIsOnlyForNow · 21/10/2020 15:09

The governing body OFSTED will want to know why the child is arriving late?

No, they won't.

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 21/10/2020 15:58

The governing body OFSTED will want to know why the child is arriving late?

PMSL, oh yes the all seeing eye of OFSTED will be pinpointed on OP's 2 year old coming an hour late to an entirely optional activity, so comply comply comply!

Honestly I swear half the people posting about how OP needs to adhere to the RULES are just pissed off because their kids wake up at 4.45 every day and don't see why she shouldn't have to get up before she wants to, like they do

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 21/10/2020 15:59

YABU to disrupt the structured routine they have & compromise the hours your children are being funded to attend. I’m sorry about your sleep and have had bouts of it too, it can be really tough, but that’s what there is to manage

Seriously, life is really difficult, exhausting and stressful at the moment, for many people. Why insist that OP makes it harder for herself?

OperationallySound · 21/10/2020 16:01

@MummyMayo1988

YABU! Why can people now days not follow simple rules? They will literally use any excuse to NOT follow rules?! I just don't understand! If your DC is attending a free school nursery and they want the children in by 9am then you get them in by 9am. If you want to dictate and chose your own hours then you put DC in a private nursery and pay for the privilege of picking your own hours! Simple! I wouldnt go to my kids school and say; "Actually, 9:50 start doesn't work for me. I'll be bringing them in at 10 from now on" ?!
Hate to spoil a top rant, but it is a private nursery Grin
CanwerollontheNY · 21/10/2020 16:35

@Bahhhhhumbug

But surely this only affects you on one night/morning.i.e. Sunday night, Monday morning. You have the rest of the week to catch up on your sleep, have relative lie ins.
Totally clueless comment.

Speaking as a mum that works nights shifts.... unless you have done it... you should really mind your own business.

There’s no logic in exhausting yourself unnecessarily. Despite having more days off it’s not the point.

StatisticalSense · 21/10/2020 17:09

@OperationallySound
It is only a private nursery in the sense that NHS dentists are private. The OP is using taxpayer funded hours and therefore the nursery only gets paid for the hours the child is physically present, meaning that if the child isn't present for the scheduled hours the nursery has to cover the wages of the staff without having any income which is clearly not possible. If you don't want to follow the rules that grant funding for a privately provided service you always have the option of paying out of your own pocket.

Bahhhhhumbug · 22/10/2020 20:49

CanwerollontheNY
Lmao at someone telling me to mind my own business on a public forum.
Have grown up kids and nearly grown up grandkids thanks and yes sorry l have worked full time nights and/or shift work since my youngest was six months old. Also my post was nothing to do with how many days off a shift worker gets, l know only too well shift work is still tiring. My point is the OP only has one potential late night with an early rise required. That shouldn't make someone burnt out /exhausted for the whole of the rest of the week.

Bahhhhhumbug · 22/10/2020 21:13

sorry posted too soon. With an early night Monday its possible to catch up on sleep missed that morning with the early rise.

needanewidea · 23/10/2020 07:31

With an early night Monday its possible to catch up on sleep missed that morning with the early rise

Did you miss the bit where the OP said she has insomnia?

An early night is not going to solve this.

CanwerollontheNY · 23/10/2020 09:08

@Bahhhhhumbug

*CanwerollontheNY* Lmao at someone telling me to mind my own business on a public forum. Have grown up kids and nearly grown up grandkids thanks and yes sorry l have worked full time nights and/or shift work since my youngest was six months old. Also my post was nothing to do with how many days off a shift worker gets, l know only too well shift work is still tiring. My point is the OP only has one potential late night with an early rise required. That shouldn't make someone burnt out /exhausted for the whole of the rest of the week.
Why should it not make someone burnt out? Because it didn’t when you had your kids? Grin Thank God mist nurseries do not have your view! OP said she has insomnia
Floating662 · 23/10/2020 09:55

Insomnia is awful, only those who have experienced it will truly understand. It's all too easy for other people to say "just get on with it"

Bahhhhhumbug · 23/10/2020 20:48

CanwerollontheNY Now you're being deliberately obtuse. I said one late night/early rise combo shouldn't make someone burnt out for the whole of rest of the week. More likely to be the insomnia generally causing the burn out, not the one late night /early rise.
Yes and after over thirty years working full time week on nights week on days, l am old friends with insomnia and interrupted sleep patterns.
Oh and here's a PA Grin right back at you as you seem to be making this personal for some reason.

Bahhhhhumbug · 24/10/2020 04:51

hneedanewidea
"Did you miss the bit where the OP said she has insomnia?

An early night is not going to solve this."

No l didn't, in fact that's my point - the insomnia is more likely to be causing the problem if someone is burned out all week, not one late night /early rise.....
and yes you're absolutely right, an early night may well not solve this if insomnia stops OP benefitting from that early night. But equally neither will one extra hour in bed on a Monday morning solve a week of insomnia related fatigue.

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