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Another CF neighbour parking one...

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Lillipops · 14/10/2020 08:43

Hello fellow Mumsnetters I have for you a CF neighbor parking issue I have included a diagram so I hope it makes sense. We live in a semi detached house which has a driveway. At the end of the driveway a footpath cuts across and then there is another drive which goes down to the road. It is long enough to fit at least 4 cars because the house is set back from the road. Relatively modern development but ours and next door are the only ones in the street with such driveway. Our boundary runs from the edge of our garage down to the main road as shown in our deeds, there is a line where the concrete has been laid on the 2nd bit of the drive but other than that there is no visible division if you see what I mean. We park our car on the drive just in line with our house. A new couple have moved in next door with 3 cars. Instead of moving one of their cars off the drive to move them around they have taken to just driving across our drive to get around it. AIBU that this is so cheeky? It's really winding me and especially my partner up. This is NOT a shared drive and they are driving across our land because they are so lazy rather than just move their cars. I wouldn't mind if they had asked or queried it but they just seem to do what they like. I've attached a picture so you can see.....hit me mumsnetters

Another CF neighbour parking one...
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Jaxhog · 14/10/2020 11:51

It's a trespass. Similar to walkers taking a short cut across your garden or kids playing in your garden without permission. It might not seem like a big problem, but If someone is injured YOU will be liable as it is your land.

I would send them a formal cease and desist letter ASAP.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 14/10/2020 11:54

Whoever can invent a drive-sized invisible force-field bubble, which instantly allows admittance to vehicles with a synced coded wireless pass card on the dash but causes all others to just bounce off it with a loud comedy 'BOOOOOOIIIIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!!' sound, will make the inventor of penguin bollards look like a pauper among humanity.

Lorw · 14/10/2020 11:55

YANBU. This would annoy me, such liberties really. People aren’t just entitled to use other people’s property just because it makes their life easier. Jeez.

Lorw · 14/10/2020 11:57

Also. I would be putting up a fence with a gate at the end of your second driveway 😁

Howlooseisyourgoose · 14/10/2020 11:58

@Lillipops

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VinylDetective · 14/10/2020 11:59

@Lorw

YANBU. This would annoy me, such liberties really. People aren’t just entitled to use other people’s property just because it makes their life easier. Jeez.
They haven’t shat on her bed, ffs.
raddledoldmisanthropist · 14/10/2020 12:01

It would appear to be like "twat" which has different meanings around the UK: a mild word for "idiot" in some places (like Glasgow) and the worst of worst descriptors in other places (something I only learnt via MN).

In fairness, surely everything which would be aggressive abuse in the rest of the UK is mild in Glasgow? e.g. "jobby flavoured fart-lozenge", "donkey rapin' shit-eater" or "wankstain" are affectionate ways of saying someone has been silly, much like 'twonk' would be in Lancashire.

By the time you get to the home counties saying someone is "non-U" or "petty bourgeois" will start a fight but when you reach the east end of London it's back to the start again and "cunt" is a form of punctuation.

Ijustdontcare · 14/10/2020 12:03

Before you go gung-ho with some of the solutions in this thread make sure you check the wording part of your deeds and theirs not just the map.
I wouldn't be surprised if the developers put in ROW access for you both over the whole of the second part of the drive.

lyralalala · 14/10/2020 12:06

If it was just this I'd leave it, but they clearly see your drive as a shared space for them to use whenever they need it so I would put planters or a fence in to stop them using it.

All you need is a couple strategically placed so that they can't turn from their drive to yours over the path (assuming it's not a crazy wide footpath.

ScarMatty · 14/10/2020 12:07

@raddledoldmisanthropist

Log it with 101 and get some penguin bollards. Sorry, I just can't do it.

I wouldn't care. We part share a big drive with neighbours and will happily let each other use both sides.

Another neighbour and their kids were playing on our drive the other day, to avoid riding in the road. I moved our car so they had more room and offered them a drink.

I like my MiL, don't send thank you cards, encourage the builders to use our loo and think teachers should be left alone to do their job. I'm just not Mumsnetty :-(

This!!!
SuzieCarmichael · 14/10/2020 12:08

Excellent diagram, OP.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 14/10/2020 12:09

It's a trespass. Similar to walkers taking a short cut across your garden or kids playing in your garden without permission.

The walk from our house to our DS's school involves a big 'U' shape that could be cut much shorter by nipping through a small cul-de-sac and hopping over somebody's side fence and into the school grounds right behind. Oddly enough, I've never found myself actually doing this, though....

EKGEMS · 14/10/2020 12:14

@AgentProvocateur It's interesting how you can make a flippant statement with 100% certainty that you 100% do not know

museumum · 14/10/2020 12:23

It really wouldn't bother me in the slightest - so long as they're not driving on any grass which would get damaged. It's NOTHING like going through somebody's garden and climbing their fence. I'd prefer them do this than the engine and door slamming noise of swapping the cars around.

Flavabobble · 14/10/2020 12:26

It’s cheeky, but not fuckery. (Did someone say that already?)

PumpkinetChocolat · 14/10/2020 12:33

Again, it's completely irrelevant if you are happy with your neighbours using your own drive, going in your garden, using your rubbish bin.

As long as it's YOUR property, YOU get to decide on the rules.

What you do not do is deciding what rules apply to your neighbour's own property. That's rude and very entitled CF territory.

Mummyoflittledragon · 14/10/2020 12:37

YANBU
They obviously think they can use and abuse your drive at will and didn’t think to check how or where the builders were mixing the cement. Or if they did, they didn’t care.

G5000 · 14/10/2020 12:37

Seriously? Is all your driveways paved with precious stones or something, that you would stand watch your neighbor moving and re-parking 3 cars, just so they don't 'wear out' your driveway. Which, if it's fit for purpose, will not deteriorate if another car or even 2 drive over it occasionally. Honestly I would think my neighbours have gone fully bonkers if I saw them doing anything like that.

If the issue is that they didn't ask then you just say that dear neighbours, to avoid any confusion, the driveway is actually our property so please discuss before, if access for builders or similar is needed.

MrsExpo · 14/10/2020 12:39

Total CFery .... this would wind me up too, simply because they hadn't even thought to ask if it's OK. But it is an odd arrangement and they may not realise it's actually your access. Do they know the land belongs to you? If so, they need to stop. If not, you need to have a word. I would start parking your car in the bit between the road and the footpath for a while at least.

If you fence off your drive on both sides of the footpath, leaving a gap wide enough for pedestrians, that ought to make the gap too narrow for them to get though with a car.

Nikori · 14/10/2020 12:39

@PumpkinetChocolat

Again, it's completely irrelevant if you are happy with your neighbours using your own drive, going in your garden, using your rubbish bin.

As long as it's YOUR property, YOU get to decide on the rules.

What you do not do is deciding what rules apply to your neighbour's own property. That's rude and very entitled CF territory.

It’s the AIBU forum. The OP asked if people thought it was cheeky. People are saying that it wouldn’t bother them. Yes, it bothers the OP but she asked if this was unreasonable or not, so they are answering her.
NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 14/10/2020 12:43

This wouldnt bother me if I'm honest.

VinylDetective · 14/10/2020 12:50

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland

This wouldnt bother me if I'm honest.
Really? Weren’t you ranting about tradesmen’s vans and threatening to block their entrance to your cul de sac yesterday?
raddledoldmisanthropist · 14/10/2020 12:51

Is all your driveways paved with precious stones or something, that you would stand watch your neighbor moving and re-parking 3 cars, just so they don't 'wear out' your driveway.

In fairness precious stones would definitely take much longer to wear out. It puts me in mind of a more constructive solution:

  1. Coat the post-pavement part of your drive with synthetic diamonds. This is honestly much cheaper than you think and will eliminate wear.
  1. Coat the pavement with teflon.
  1. Set up a webcam to a YouTube channel recording the times pedestrians slide onto the now cheesegrater-like drive.
  1. Comedy gold = profit.
  1. Buy a house away from these monsterous nightmare neighbours.
Howlooseisyourgoose · 14/10/2020 12:52

Really? Weren’t you ranting about tradesmen’s vans and threatening to block their entrance to your cul de sac yesterday?

Oh dead Grin

HardAsSnails · 14/10/2020 12:53

A couple of big plant pots strategically placed will stop the cutting across, for aesthetics you could have a pair across each end of the drive where it abuts the path.

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