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The final countdown to Election Day 2020 is on (Trump thread #106)

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GetTheDoorFrank · 08/10/2020 22:45

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4037771-Presidential-Debate-season-lets-stand-strong-together-Trump-thread-105
Link to previous thread...
Here is to the next 10 pages of unexpected and more so unexplainable shenanigans of SCROTUS and co...

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lionheart · 27/10/2020 14:00

edition.cnn.com/2020/10/27/politics/e-jean-carroll-defamation-lawsuit-trump/index.html

'(CNN)A federal judge on Tuesday denied the Justice Department's effort to intervene in a defamation lawsuit brought against President Donald Trump by a longtime magazine columnist who has alleged he raped her, paving the way for the case to proceed.

The department had sought to substitute itself as defendant in the lawsuit filed by E. Jean Carroll, a move that likely would have ended the proceedings, since the federal government can't be sued for defamation.'

PerkingFaintly · 27/10/2020 14:28

How long before Republicans start blaming the Democrats for the Republicans appointing Amy Coney Barrett?

They do with everything else: "It's all your fault for running Hillary in the first place. Hillary was unelectable for ."

(Hillary getting more votes than Trump is always ignored when they do this.)

AcrossthePond55 · 27/10/2020 14:29

7 days until Election Day
I'm too superstitious and/or paranoid to mention 'that certain day in January' at this point.

You know, I was musing on how fluid the English language is. How one word can have so many meanings. Take 'notorious' for instance. To say 'The Notorious RBG' brings the image of a courageous and extraordinary woman who fought for rights for all people. To say 'The Notorious ACB' brings an image of, well, quite the opposite. A biased and privileged woman who will fight against her fellow-females and people of colour or a different faith and strive to deny them those rights that RBG fought for so valiantly.

PerkingFaintly · 27/10/2020 14:37

And actually I'm quite bored with this electioneering technique now, where whoever a party chooses as leader, the little messagers will trot out, "Well I could have voted for X party, if only they hadn't chosen Y who is unelectable."

It's time we got wise to this. This type of electioneer WILL ALWAYS SAY THIS. ABOUT ANY OPPOSING CANDIDATE.

It doesn't make any difference what candidate X party chooses: the line will stay the same, with a different supposed "killer issue" (usually minor or largely invented) puffed by the messagers.

I got a bit fed up before the last couple of elections, UK and US, with all the posters who'd identified themselves as anti-party-X in the first place, weighing in on who should be leader of party X. Yeah, somehow I don't think I'm in favour of appointing your dream candidate, anti-X-ers, given your aim is to make party X lose...

Lweji · 27/10/2020 14:39

Also from Rawstory,

www.rawstory.com/2020/10/here-are-5-possible-ways-to-make-trump-leave-quietly-if-he-loses-the-election/

Interesting read. Fingers crossed.

Roussette · 27/10/2020 15:59

Jon Sopel (BBC US correspondent for WH) tweeeted these two pictures of the WH saying what a privilege it was to do the job.

Wonderful images and I wonder where we'll be in 8 days time. Trump doesn't deserve to reside there any more.

The final countdown to Election Day 2020 is on (Trump thread #106)
The final countdown to Election Day 2020 is on (Trump thread #106)
PerkingFaintly · 27/10/2020 16:14

Should I have an election namechange to PrayingFervently?

I almost don't want to do anything to attract the attention of the capricious gods...

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/10/2020 16:24

AcrossthePond55
You know, I was musing on how fluid the English language is. How one word can have so many meanings. Take 'notorious' for instance. To say 'The Notorious RBG' brings the image of a courageous and extraordinary woman who fought for rights for all people. To say 'The Notorious ACB' brings an image of, well, quite the opposite. A biased and privileged woman who will fight against her fellow-females and people of colour or a different faith and strive to deny them those rights that RBG fought for so valiantly.

Coming from this side of the pond, I was always surprised that someone like RBG should be called "notorious", because I have only ever heard it over here as meaning "of ill repute; well-known for some bad or unfavourable quality, deed, etc; infamous". I assumed it was an attempt by her opponents to cast a slur on her which backfired because she embraced it: like the N-word being used by black people to address each other, that sort of thing.

VeryLittleHowl · 27/10/2020 16:49

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

AcrossthePond55 You know, I was musing on how fluid the English language is. How one word can have so many meanings. Take 'notorious' for instance. To say 'The Notorious RBG' brings the image of a courageous and extraordinary woman who fought for rights for all people. To say 'The Notorious ACB' brings an image of, well, quite the opposite. A biased and privileged woman who will fight against her fellow-females and people of colour or a different faith and strive to deny them those rights that RBG fought for so valiantly.

Coming from this side of the pond, I was always surprised that someone like RBG should be called "notorious", because I have only ever heard it over here as meaning "of ill repute; well-known for some bad or unfavourable quality, deed, etc; infamous". I assumed it was an attempt by her opponents to cast a slur on her which backfired because she embraced it: like the N-word being used by black people to address each other, that sort of thing.

It was a play on The Notorious B.I.G. wasn't it? And intended to be a compliment.
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/10/2020 17:11

Ah, right. I'd never heard of him either.

Lweji · 27/10/2020 17:16

You may have seen it mentioned on another thread(s), but, and it falls on the 3rd november:

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-politicization-of-mumsnet-online-webinar-tickets-123449989241

It may be overloaded with trans issues, but I'd like to see the Trump threads mentioned. Grin

AcrossthePond55 · 27/10/2020 18:33

It was a play on The Notorious B.I.G. wasn't it? And intended to be a compliment

It was @VeryLittleHowl. And in the context of RBG, it is/was quite a compliment.

But the word 'notorious' has also been used in an, I guess, 'onxymoron-ish' way to describe a person in a positive way, as in "Mary is 'notorious' for her delicious cakes" or "Helen is 'notorious' for being the first to help out".

Words and language are a wonderful thing!

CaveMum · 27/10/2020 20:37

I highly recommend the Netflix documentary “RBG“ if anyone hasn’t seen it yet.

Roussette · 27/10/2020 20:50

I've seen it, it was wonderful.

In total contrast I've just watched Melania give a speech (if you can call it that). Basically, she was slagging off Biden, saying how wonderful her husband was and how hard he works, everyone in the background whooping.
Pathetic. What a waste of 3 minutes of my life

AcrossthePond55 · 27/10/2020 21:30

I've given up on watching anything Scrotus-related, Roussette. It's too close to Election Day to be amusing and I just can't bear the lying and blackguarding of Biden anymore. We'll watch Biden's ads as he still seems to be focusing more on who he is and what he hopes for the Country. But Scrotus ads just get muted or we flick the channel. Same with news stories.

I don't know how I'm going to get through the next 7 days. Well, I do actually. Everyone here will get me (and each other) through it.

AcrossthePond55 · 27/10/2020 21:31

@HoldMyLobster

So, do you think Collins' 'nay' vote was with the blessings of the party in order to boost her chances of reelection or did she really 'go rogue' this time?

Roussette · 27/10/2020 21:46

A very wise move Across. What she said made me very angry. And to think I had some sympathyt for her at one point, I must've been bonkers.

HoldMyLobster · 27/10/2020 21:57

[quote AcrossthePond55]@HoldMyLobster

So, do you think Collins' 'nay' vote was with the blessings of the party in order to boost her chances of reelection or did she really 'go rogue' this time?[/quote]
She didn't have the party's blessing, but on the other hand her vote wasn't going to make a difference either way. So she was able to do what I have no doubt she felt was right, without having to wait to find out what Mitch wanted her to do.

And remember more than 1/3 of Maine has already voted.

Too many women in Maine (who she really needed to win over) are still absolutely furious about the Kavanaugh vote.

And the Trumpies are still furious she won't say she's voting for him. She's in a no-win situation.

Read the comments on this Press Herald story...
www.pressherald.com/2020/10/26/collins-breaks-with-party-to-oppose-barrett-confirmation/

"Too little, too late, Susan. Should have drawn the line at Kavanaugh and should have stood up for women's rights.

"Collins vote was not needed...she got permission from Trump & McConnell to vote any way she wanted to.

"This was a politically motivated move, not a philosophical one. She knew her "no: vote would make no difference to the outcome. It would be interesting to uncover her communications with the Republican power brokers, who likely agreed with this strategy as a potential way to save her seat.

"Collins voted no, but rather than bravely reading her statement, she simply had it entered into the record. Way to make a stand, Senator Coward! What use is your experience and leadership if you cower in the shadows when there are difficult issues?

"Sorry Senator, but at this point I just see your vote as "cya" time.

"She is playing the game!! To late already voted. No more tricks Susan!

Roussette · 27/10/2020 21:57

This is good to do.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/oct/26/us-election-result-simulator-biden-trump-win

Build your own result, and I'm pretty ignorant on the possibilities, but I have Biden winning Smile

Cacacoisfarraige · 27/10/2020 23:49

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