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'Boys' work night out

234 replies

thistimenextmonth · 07/10/2020 10:05

I am part of a 3 person senior management team where I work. I am in the middle of the other 2 in terms of seniority.

We have a team of 60 employees with 4 junior managers beneath us.

2 colleagues (male) have left the workplace recently and one of the junior managers has organised a few drinks to say farewell, my boss (male) and the other manager (also male) have been invited along with the junior managers and a couple of others on site.

I have not been invited and no other women have either. The reason given was it is a boys night.

This has only just happened so I am still reeling a bit. There are no other female managers which is why I am asking here if I should be feeling this uncomfortable about it? My boss hasn't said anything but when I mentioned to the other manager he seemed to 'get it' which is why I know the answer of it was a 'boys night' I feel disrespected and dissapointed. AIBU?

OP posts:
BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 08/10/2020 11:21

Shock at the revelation that he didn't mention training to the women on the team. This is definitely looking like a pattern of behaviour now.

MsTSwift · 08/10/2020 11:47

Warn the boss that this man is exposing the company to risk by encouraging sexist working practices which is not only illegal but also bad for retention and morale (bottom line). Plus the reputational risk of 6 plus employee going on a company linked jolly atm.

What a cock he is.

EBearhug · 08/10/2020 12:10

The catty, backstabbing, popular girl cesspit that is these sectors is far worse than not being invited out for a drink.

Men are perfectly capable of being catty and back-stabbing. It's poor culture that causes it, not collegues' sex.

MsTSwift · 08/10/2020 12:35

Men can be just as “bitchy” as women. With the added rating women out of 10 thing which seems to be specific to men. God makes me glad I work for myself!

Strugglingtodomybest · 08/10/2020 13:32

I genuinely am shocked how many women on here can’t see the issue and have laid into the OP.

If this is the attitude to women in senior positions at work on a vast majority female website we’ve no chance.

I agree with this. Shocking.

NiceGerbil · 08/10/2020 14:05

'However, I would take this industry above a female dominated one. My friends in PR and HR talk of envy of a male dominated environemnt. The catty, backstabbing, popular girl cesspit that is these sectors is far worse than not being invited out for a drink.'

So you don't like men OR women.

Ok then Grin

It's hilarious how some posters have now turned to, oh but women are way worse!

People are people. Some are aresholes most are nice.

The stereotyping on this thread has been bizarre!

OP good for you.

I'm still worried that so many women who responded said. No problem with a men only leaving do. They probably want to go to a strip club that's totally normal all men love that. Hmmm, sounds like everyone at your work hates you!!! What woman would want to go out for a drink with male colleagues anyway.. etc etc

Really weird and really shit to see this in 2020. Maybe things are getting worse? I've been working since the late 80s and the men and women have always gone out together, leaving dos have been for everyone etc etc

NiceGerbil · 08/10/2020 14:06

Struggling- yes that quote.

timeisnotaline · 10/10/2020 00:00

Bloody hell that quote. I have one time in my working life turned around and realised everyone in the project team was in the room and it was all women, and it was a lovely feeling.

mamangelo · 10/10/2020 09:23

I think this is very inappropriate. It is work drinks at the end of the day and to exclude women from it is discriminating. I think it sends out a message. Also a lot of relationship building is done in these type of events, and in this case women are excluded from being involved.

As the most senior female you have a responsibility to flag that this is inappropriate. I would imagine they will immediately see this is wrong and make the event inclusive, if not I would push as hard as I needed to ensure that was the case

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