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Interfering in laws

165 replies

EmmieC · 06/10/2020 15:47

Hi all,

I’m 28 weeks pregnant (first baby) and just wanted to see if I’m in the wrong to be upset about my in laws. Apologies as it’s quite long.

So, 2 days after telling PIL I was pregnant, they decided to buy a new car to “fit a pram in” I personally found this very strange but I don’t like to upset people or arguments so didn’t say anything to them. I brought it up to my partner about how worried I was about them interfering. (They have been stopped from seeing their other grandchildren twice due to interfering). He said that they had the others at a young age so probably assumed, so I left it.

Last night I went round and they said “we’ve ordered a cot”. They haven’t once asked us if they’d like us to get things for their house. I was very upset and told them not to assume I’d want them to have my baby at a young age. To which they replied “oh yes you will” and I walked out their house crying. My partner stayed and told them they had gone too far and they were becoming too overbearing. FIL then said “she’s just overprotective because her own mums dead and is jealous of us having a relationship with the new baby”.

AIBU to think that’s an extremely rude and hurtful thing to say and that they should have asked us about the cot first or am I being hormonal?

Well done if you manages to read it all 😂

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AutumnleavesturntoGold · 07/10/2020 21:34

Just, op isn't hormonal and I think it's rather tacky to put a woman's natural feelings of revulsion over such stuff down to.. Womens things.

Graphista · 07/10/2020 21:51

Wow! @elmouno you don't think much of mothers do you?!

No not all grandparents are generous, supportive and helpful WITHOUT overstepping boundaries!

Also every family and its dynamics are different.

The FACT that ops other in-laws have ALREADY on 2 occasions felt the need to prevent contact between THESE grandparents and the dgc strongly suggests there ARE issues with THESE grandparents NOT listening to the parents of the children or acting according to their wishes - which all grandparents should (barring abuse/neglect of course)

They've ALREADY spoken very cruelly and disparagingly about ops own family of origin as if the fact ops mother has sadly passed means she should put up with crappy behaviour from them!

Op is absolutely NOT "making themselves a nuisance" nowhere close! What a ridiculous and offensive comment!

Those with narcissistic tendencies often use money/material goods to try and make their target feel beholden, OBLIGATED to them

In this case they are very likely hoping/might even say "you have to let us have baby overnight we bought a cot and everything"

It's manipulative!

There is a happy medium which I suspect is what most grandparents manage.

My lovely now ex in laws got a new mattress for the cot they already had at theirs which had been used for the older grandchildren, they had other things at theirs that were "handed down" and some things they got new - after discussing with us.

For health reasons they were unable at this stage to babysit alone but were happy to provide other help and support.

They'd babysat older dgc as they were younger and healthier then, but they never imposed or insisted, simply offered in a "just give us a call" type way.

Once when exh was deployed I was extremely ill with a chest infection and couldn't cope alone either. They came over and looked after dd and I in the ways they could, meaning I could reserve the little energy I had for doing the things with dd they were unable to, we sort of "tag teamed" - brought us much closer.

If I'd had my parents "helping" in the same situation, neither would have paid any attention to what I said about dds routine, allergies, meds etc they'd have steamed in doing things their way, likely made dd ill and fractious, stressed me out, then after the first day declared it was "too much" and expected me to see to them as well as dd!

My dd is now an adult, my parents, especially mum, complain she doesn't stay in contact much and she hasn't visited for ages.

That would be because:

When my sister had her 1st when dd was a toddler dd basically got "bumped" for the new baby!

Sisters kids get spoiled rotten especially by gran as sis is gc and that's been extended to dd

Dd ALWAYS got the blame if the kids fell out or something got broken or whatever, sis' kids very quickly learnt to blame dd too

Sis kids birthday and Christmas presents were carefully chosen according to their interests at the time, DDs were thoughtlessly bought the day before or day of.

Parents during her childhood didn't make the effort to see or speak to her but saw sis' kids daily, often having them stay over from thu night till Monday morning or Tuesday if a bank holiday.

That's just the "highlights" as it were.

So I've no patience for mums complaints as she is merely reaping what was sown.

Dd despite all this does call/see them if she can on birthdays etc, and gets them thoughtful cards and gifts - it's not appreciated and they can be quite hurtful gushing over sis' kids offerings and ignoring dds.

If they've had contact blocked before I would have thought they'd have learnt by now.

Nah! People like this don't "learn" they live on the premise that they're always right and everyone else is wrong/weird/stupid!

As I say I was raised by a pair of them, dad has no friends at all and hasn't for decades, his own family barely acknowledge him, mum is close to her family but has few friends and is ridiculously easily offended and frequently falls out with them for bizarre reasons.

I feel a lot of the respondents not agreeing with or minimising the ops in laws behaviour either have no experience with people like this and/or are coming from the perspective of having to deal with grandparents/in laws at the other extreme who are completely disinterested.

Neither is acceptable, a balance is better.

Bollocks is she sensitive! A sensitive person would learn from one criticism and never put themselves in that position again! She turns in the waterworks when she might get thwarted getting her own way

Yep! It's manipulation

The mother blocked her and the family off the eldest child’s phone. MIL then bought a new phone and number to contact the granddaughter good grief that’s appalling!

See those of you giving it “I’m sure they’re not that bad”? THIS is what you’re defending!

Your mil is a dangerous woman going being the dps back like that op... I would agree with that

AutumnleavesturntoGold · 07/10/2020 22:03

Yy graphista.

It's a strange dynamic, I think if I had not had my personal life changing experience with my Mil I too would struggle to understand what's so wrong with a granny buying a cot. It's sweet and helpful?

It control. All control and it's not fun being constantly manipulated and controlled over it... Every single aspect all tuned into getting what Mil needs ... For filling her needs.. Every baby sneeze, look all becomes about Mil.

It's not helpful and every favour turns into heart rending agony because you feel it's wrong but your desperate for help.

Incrediblytired · 07/10/2020 22:08

I had a mil who overstepped boundaries and really stressed me out whilst I was pregnant. She was ok before but the moment I got pregnant she was obsessed, wanted to decorate the nursery to save me the hassle, bought boxes and boxes of (seriously gross) baby clothes “you won’t have to buy anything at all for the first year” and literally everything was “I’ve bought her first teddy, I’ve bought her first swimming costume, this will be the blanket she comes home from hospital in” and so I made my husband agree not to tell anyone when I was in labour etc (this is key or she will come to the hospital). She kept calling the baby “my baby” as in hers... and I was soooo stressed.

BUT

When the baby arrived, their dream was shattered and the reality was that they backed right off. There were a couple of times I put my foot down, they wanted to have her overnight very early but I got a sense that this was to help us as when I pointed out I was breastfeeding and so it wasn’t possible, it was fine. She’s stayed once in 4 years.

It sounds like your in laws are particularly crazy but they could come in handy so try to be boundaries but don’t burn your bridges x

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 07/10/2020 22:08

they just don’t seem to be bothered about us

Well that’s a major issue in all this, isn’t it? ‘Oh yes you will’ on their terms and they don’t care about you. Your DH tells them to back off, your FIL tries to explain it away with ‘jealousy’ on your part.

It isn’t just a matter of asking you about buying stuff for their house, normal grandparents would ask (if they can afford it which they clearly can) if they could buy that stuff for YOU.

And people like this will not take one joy of notice about your routines, feeding preferences. Get their hands on your baby for the night and they will be introducing solids at 3m, juice in a bottle, not believing that babies should sleep on their backs.,.

Do not sleep walk into this. Wake up now.

AutumnleavesturntoGold · 07/10/2020 22:21

Raining yes spot on.. Dh and I really could have done with some of help when dd was arriving... My friends who had a babies around the same time seemed to get treated to money for prams, and the other side brought THEM a cot... The expecting couple...

Mine didn't ask or consult.. Mil ran around buying stuff, even a pram without me or asking me... She sort of cut me out and had had the enjoyment of buying herself... And when I innocently tried to share with her what I brought she rained on my parade... Even over small stuff.... I was so open and keen to share with her, the excitement but looking back that made me vulnerable to a abuser. She exploited me.

QueenArseClangers · 07/10/2020 22:34

@EmmieC they expected you to have them for Christmas at nearly 40 weeks pregnant??!!! Shock

What did they say?

EmmieC · 07/10/2020 22:42

They did indeed! They asked if I was getting the same meat as last year as they both really liked it and can’t wait for this years hassle free Christmas. I think I actually laughed. They seemed very shocked when DH said “are you taking the piss? She’s not making your f**ng Christmas dinner when she’s due a few days after” Grin

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RainingBatsAndFrogs · 07/10/2020 22:51

DH said “are you taking the piss? She’s not making your fng Christmas dinner when she’s due a few days after” grin

Round of applause for your DH Grin

AutumnLeaves that is so upsetting, raining on your parade, your delight and joy Sad

Wales34 · 07/10/2020 23:01

I understand that the FIL comment was completely uncalled for and nasty . However I would look to change your perspective , they want to be involved in your babys life, and providing that are loving grandparents what is the problem ? They have bought a cot so that they can have the baby overnight, that's great. It will allow them to spend some time with the baby and give you and your husband a break. Trust me , you will be glad of this even if its very occasionally. Be glad that they are interested and want to be part of their grandchild life.

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 07/10/2020 23:10

Wales, you haven’t RTFT, have you?

EnjoyingTheSilence · 07/10/2020 23:27

Your DH sounds fab @EmmieC

Dreading2020sSeasonFinale · 07/10/2020 23:40

I couldn't be away from any of my babies (3 kids) until they were at least 6 months. And the first time sleeping at family's houses? Well after two years old! And I actually get on with my In-laws (to a degree)

Dreading2020sSeasonFinale · 07/10/2020 23:43

It's an easy solution though. When they ask for the baby say no. That's it. Just smile and say, "No, thank you. Baby is coming with us" and leave the visit as usual. They can buy all the cots and peaks they like but baby won't ever need to use them.

BluebellsGreenbells · 08/10/2020 00:06

My mum has 8 grandchildren- not one cot high chair or spare clothes nappies have been necessary at her house. She has a box of secondhand toys and a few games and a paint box when kids come to play.

MinnieJackson · 08/10/2020 00:33

I'm sorry, their are no words. I got as far as your FIL talking about your mum and left. Vile. If you have noone else their age loads of people on here will have your back x

Wales34 · 08/10/2020 01:29

@RainingBatsAndFrogs

Wales, you haven’t RTFT, have you?
Sorry cats and frogs, what is RTFT
Graphista · 08/10/2020 02:37

RTFT means READ THE FULL THREAD

Though to be honest you don't appear to have even read the first post!

feistyoneyouare · 08/10/2020 02:47

It's this kind of complaint that makes people assume that the young eat avocado toast everyday.

What a bizarrely irrelevant comment.

Thundercats77 · 08/10/2020 09:19

@Dottiedot19....
Oh lordy, that sounds rough.

Thundercats77 · 08/10/2020 09:50

It seems odd that in the 4 years you and DP have been together, you've only been invited round theirs twice. If you went round quite often, It would make more senseof why they have brought a cot and new car to accommodate for a new pram. It's like they have made the assumption that they will be seeing DGC very often.

Do you feel that they might be trying to take over and that what you want for your child will be overlooked?

Given what you said about BIL experiences and getting a new phone etc they clearly don't care or respect the parents wishes.

I'd say let them buy the things. Once the baby comes along and if you are round there's often that fine it will get used.

But if you're not and they mention that all the things they bought are not getting used and the baby is outgrowing them then you can both say you never told them to go out and buy them.

You may need there help once DS arrives so keep your options open and don't shoot yourself in the foot.

eggofmantumbi · 08/10/2020 10:02

@emmieC I just wanted to say please don't some your son won't have an amazing relationship with your dad. My parents are nearly 300 miles away and my daughter adores them. She's 3.5 and she asks to video call them all the time. They often chat/ play for an hour x

EmmieC · 08/10/2020 10:14

@Thundercats77, invited round twice for dinner. We have gone round other times when they wanted DH to do something or just because if we didn’t, he wouldn’t see his parents.

Yes, they absolutely, 100% would take over. They act like the other kids are their own and always go behind the mothers back. That was why I was upset. It wasn’t the fact they had bought things, it was the realisation that they were going to be just as interfering, probably worse with my own son. Also, to be told that whatever I wanted, it wasn’t going to happen “Oh you will”. Very sternly said to me, when I said I wouldn’t want him being away from his parents at a young age.

@eggofmantumbi Sorry, I didn’t mean it like that, and I’m sure my son will love my Dad have a very good relationship. I just meant that he wouldn’t see my Dad as often. When I was little my grandma lived around the corner from us and me and my sister would spend the day with her every Saturday. Obviously my son wouldn’t have that. My dad and DH and I, would obviously make lots of effort to visit one another as often as possible :)

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RainingBatsAndFrogs · 08/10/2020 10:57

@Graphista

RTFT means READ THE FULL THREAD

Though to be honest you don't appear to have even read the first post!

Not READ THE F*CKINGTHREAD? ?
Thundercats77 · 08/10/2020 11:41

It's really hard not to feel anxious given their track record with the other children. You can see history repeating itself and as you have mentioned already that you can tell them not do certain things until you're blue in the face and it falls on deaf ears.

I'm 37 weeks pregnant. My IL live a 10 min walk from us. My MIL is very opinionated and has to put her 2 pence worth in everything. She has a my way or the high way attitude with DH and FIL and is quite maniulative. She has already said to DH that she will be coming round every day once the baby is born. DH had put her straight and said no you are not. She didn't like it but that's her problem. And the list goes on.

I am very emotional and sensitive at the moment and normally wouldn't let things grind on me. So when someone TELLS and dictates to you rather than asks you, you feel as if you are losing your say or are somehow having your power over your child taken away from you....

Don't forget, you are that babies mother. You and DH have the final say. They are clearly deluded.

If worse comes to worse, remind them as much as you would love for them to have a relationship with your DS, you would not want to have to take the same steps BIL had if they carry on the way they are. Grin

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