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to not believe Trump has Covid?

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GeorgeDavidson · 02/10/2020 09:05

Well, MN, does he or doesn't he?

YANBU - no, he doesn't have it
YABU - yes he probably does, why would they lie?

Is this just some ploy to miss next debates and make him look 'tough' when he sails through it without getting ill?

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 04/10/2020 13:39

Win as regards the reaction to his having caught the disease he said was just a hoax, or win the election?

SleepingStandingUp · 04/10/2020 16:19

Election.
Both.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 04/10/2020 17:11

I am not at all sure how many "undecided" voters are going to choose to vote for someone they may come to see as potentially unfit for medical reasons, to be honest. He wasn't that full of vim and vigour before, for all his vaunted fitness; photos taken when he wasn't pumped up, like the ones of him arriving back at the White House after his fiasco in Tulsa, show a rather less "vital" figure.

It may not be possible to present him(self) as 100% fit and raring to go while he is convalescent from a debilitating disease, and it's unsure whether he'll even feel up to wanting to. Many who've had it are knocked out for weeks, or months, rather than a few days; and needing to have oxygen isn't a good sign on the whole, given that most people who get it don't have that.

blueberrypie0112 · 04/10/2020 20:03

They think he will be going home on Monday even though he took both dexamethasone And Remdesivir- supposedly for those with severe case of COVID-19

SleepingStandingUp · 05/10/2020 00:28

@blueberrypie0112

They think he will be going home on Monday even though he took both dexamethasone And Remdesivir- supposedly for those with severe case of COVID-19
Severe covid or the president.
blueberrypie0112 · 05/10/2020 00:51

The medicines they gave is usually for those with severe case. They think Trump will be fine. Confusing.

SleepingStandingUp · 05/10/2020 01:00

Presumably his medical team have gone in and demanded he gets a bit of everything so that he gets the bestest treatment

SleepingStandingUp · 05/10/2020 01:03

We'll seemingly he's out of hospital and driving around with his covid germs in close proximity to the poor stickers who rely on him for a party cheque

to not believe Trump has Covid?
bevelino · 05/10/2020 02:27

@blueberrypie0112

The medicines they gave is usually for those with severe case. They think Trump will be fine. Confusing.
This

I don’t believe he has covid at all as his treatment plan makes no sense.

AlternativePerspective · 05/10/2020 03:19

The more this goes on the more I think it’s just bollocks. All these treatments are just names which have been in the media. Someone is just throwing them out there so as to make it look plausible that he has COVID and is doing well, but anyone who has been reading the news knows that these treatments are for severe cases only.

IMO they’ve over-egg’ed the pudding.

meditrina · 05/10/2020 06:11

All promising treatments have had their names in the press, and any/all of them could be used in short space of time, as deterioration can be rapid.

Not clear if any of them have been used prophylactically, and if they are any use.

And it is a bit different in the States, where medicine is a private sector activity, and doctors are much more ready to prescribe what the patient wants. And if you have an idiosyncratic approach, huge wealth and a medical team who will want to be able to demonstrate that they did everything they could (including everything the patient wanted), then I can see you would get quite different treatment patterns to what we see in NHS.

I don't see why on earth he's being seen outside the hospital - I don't get the point of that at all (beyond spin)

larrygrylls · 05/10/2020 06:16

Meditrina,

He is the POTUS, very close to absolute power. If he wants to go on a drive, that is what will happen.

Given that he is (apparently) on day 3-4 of symptoms and has already required oxygen, and the dangerous days are ahead, I suspect that he may pay a heavy price for his stupidity.

Unless, of course, the cocktail of drugs and antibodies do actually work prophylactically.

In the great soap opera of the US election, anything can happen.

turnitonagain · 05/10/2020 06:29

I hope there’s danger pay for the poor security guard and driver trapped in an airtight car with an irrational COVID patient.

MarshaBradyo · 05/10/2020 07:04

Discussion on R4 about steroids. Usually used for severe cases.

blueberrypie0112 · 05/10/2020 07:07

This article just reminded me how annoying his Narcissism can be: www.nytimes.com/2020/10/04/us/politics/trump-virus.html

iVampire · 05/10/2020 07:10

Seen on Twitter:

“There is no safe social distance indoors” should be a bumper sticker.

meditrina · 05/10/2020 07:59

Good piece in The Washingtom Post about the little driving excursion, and why it can only be spin (though they put it rather more bluntly as 'publicity stunt')

Hingeandbracket · 05/10/2020 08:46

I'd expect nothing less than the daft drive around from Trump.

WTAF are all those people doing hanging around outside - don't they have jobs, families etc? Some aspects of the US really worry me.

VinylDetective · 05/10/2020 09:09

People hang around hospitals here too - remember all the Royal births?

They obviously did the drive to show he was still alive. Just goes to show the level of distrust of him and his government.

occa · 05/10/2020 13:55

There was a very odd statement from the lead doctor, talking about the conflicting information on Trump's condition.

He said, 'I didn't want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction'

Which is total nonsense as of course an illness can't alter its course depending on what anyone says about it Confused

Replace the word illness in his statement with 'story' or 'narrative' and it suddenly makes sense though.

blueberrypie0112 · 05/10/2020 14:52

@occa

There was a very odd statement from the lead doctor, talking about the conflicting information on Trump's condition.

He said, 'I didn't want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction'

Which is total nonsense as of course an illness can't alter its course depending on what anyone says about it Confused

Replace the word illness in his statement with 'story' or 'narrative' and it suddenly makes sense though.

😂 who knew coronavirus can listen to the news
blueberrypie0112 · 05/10/2020 14:56

@Hingeandbracket

I'd expect nothing less than the daft drive around from Trump.

WTAF are all those people doing hanging around outside - don't they have jobs, families etc? Some aspects of the US really worry me.

That’s what they all say about the protesters.

But no, people have different days of being off or vacation. They can request what days they want off . As long they work at least 40 hours a week. Although some have part time jobs. Many lost their jobs (or work at home) due to coronavirus

blueberrypie0112 · 05/10/2020 14:58

Like my job, sometimes I get weekends off and sometimes I would get Wednesday or Thursday off but work on the weekend. Many jobs have flexible hours like this

wellwist · 05/10/2020 15:04

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Win as regards the reaction to his having caught the disease he said was just a hoax, or win the election?
Trump never said Covid was a hoax.

From the BBC:
Trump did not call Covid-19 a 'hoax' - and other false claims

BruceAndNosh · 05/10/2020 15:37

Works for toddlers...

to not believe Trump has Covid?
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