To be fuming with this teacher.

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Yesterday it was my ds 11th birthday. He went to school so happy.

When he came out he looked so sad. He said the teacher had told him to shut up.

I asked him why she said that and apparently he asked her a maths question during the maths lesson.

We talked and he was still uspet but wouldn’t tel
Me why.

I had 4 mums message me last night asking if he was ok, it turns out another mum had put a post on the class Facebook group saying the teacher screamed at the class that they are all stupid, told ds to shut up and called him dumb.

I asked ds today and he cried saying he felt embarrassed. Apparently this teacher is a support teacher and when the main teacher is in the class she’s normal but as soon as he leaves she’s nasty and mean.

I’m going to ring the school this morning and so are the other mums.

I’m so upset for ds.

Willow2017
Except what you outline isn't what the OP has said.

That's my point. Nobody on here can say that the class was probably yelled at because the TA couldn't answer a question so posters reading the OP's post and saying they expect that's what's happened is nothing more that mindless speculation that doesn't help the OP.

Who on earth can comment on a random person's subject knowledge based on a post that doesn't mention subject knowledge? 🤷‍♀️

Iv rang and I had to send an email with my concerns. His teacher will ring me back today or next week she said.

Also I did a stint supply teaching and if I do say so myself am a great teacher up to KS2. In a flash I’d tear up bits of paper to make resources (maths) for kids who were immigrants, had no English and were years ahead in maths, rather than let them sit there bored. I quite enjoyed the dashing about, juggling different abilities: it was a challenge.

.. secondary, when they’re showing off to their mates and you’re just sport to them (when they dare, when school management is poor) is a different ball game. I have memories of a feeling of ‘just get through it’ when covering lessons wherein I had little knowledge or background.

But it would not have crossed my mind, as an adult with SO more life experience, to be cruel to them. You can see how vulnerable they are, even at their worst behaved.

As a previous poster said, some people are just bloody horrible. They manage to mask it, temporarily, with adults, but think they can get away with it with kids.

I'm constantly astonished by people that go into education when they have such negative regard for children.

As people have said OP, leave a (virtual) paper trail.

If she has connections within the school it might not even be investigated.

A maths teacher called my daughter dumbo many years ago during a lesson...I was paying a lot of money for private home tutor atm also...I was extremely upset and angry...arranged a meeting with said teacher...gave a piece of my mind...teacher apologised....no more issues

Sounds like she was stressed and not managing. More and more TAs are taking classes. They are not given a choice. Cover PPA or emergency cover and might not have the subject knowledge and a class playing up. Still shouldn’t have told them to shut up or called you son dumb.

What LolaSmiles said.

Raise it and ask for an explanation.

Lovely classes can turn feral with a TA, supply teacher or cover supervisor.

There are also people who should not be allowed within 50m of a child.

Way back in the days of the ark I was at an RC girls' school, we had a fantastic reputation for being polite, quiet and hard working.

We walked around the school in silence and I'm sure student teachers breathed a sigh of relief when they were assigned our school.

One day in a computer studies class we had a student teacher. We were not 'top set' we were the only set. In 35 mins we redecorated the room with paper computer tape, had a radio on, asked loads of personal questions.

By the end the student teacher was just sitting in the corner, covered in paper tape with a look of, "count the minutes until it's over" face.

Also with my own DC I listen to their gripes and will usually say something along the lines of “well you can’t get on with everyone in life .. and you do like Mrs So & so don’t you? Did you see her today?”

But if someone thinks it’s fair game to make them feel shit about themselves? Nope.

sash St Trinians eat your heart out. 😂

As a rule, I'm not a fan of parents storming into schools, depending this and that. But in this case, I wouldn't be accepting the "we'll call you back next week" brush off. I'd want to talk to the teacher about your concerns TODAY. I would accept it might take a day or two for her to come back with an answer but this seems pretty extreme.

sashh
I have similar memories from school.
Sometimes I wonder if some parents selectively forget their school days once they have children.

When I go on a course or have a planned absence I always brief my classes before about what I expect. The conversation is always the same and starts with a mutual understanding that I've been at school myself so know the score, followed by knowing looks between me and the pupils.

I've also had classes where students have claimed they 'got in trouble for just asking a question'. What they failed to mention was that most of the questions were either silly, the answer was on their sheet in bold/on the screen and each question was asked in such a way to try and get a reaction, complete with silly looks across the room, laughing whilst asking it and so on, because I was a new teacher to them.

I've worked with some colleagues who were unreasonable and quick to shout too

Most things in schools can be resolved by having a conversation with the right person. For most things, going in all guns blazing with part of the story doesn't help.

This is awful, and it does happen.
It happened to one of mine, it's bullying and abuse.
We got the person sacked, tbh shouldn't have been working with kids, he was an old retired teacher that the school used for cover.
Absolutely disgusting, put it in writing to the school but also the LA, not sure if still the same but the head sorts it out, so if they don't inform the LA for whatever reason that person is still working.

I'd wait to see what the school say before jumping to conclusions. It sounds like the other mums are positioning you to be at the forefront of their 'complaints'. I don't think you should do that. Step back from the witch-hunt, call the school or email the teacher and find out what happened.
Fwiw if the entire class was playing up and a TA singled out my DC then I'd be thinking his behaviour was the worst in a bad class and regardless of the allegedly inappropriate comment from the TA, I'd be coming down heavily on my DC.

“Sadly, I have. I worked in an SEN school which made it worse in my eyes as I saw a teacher repeatedly bully students who couldn't speak.”

One of my family members worked in SEN schools for years. Most of the staff were lovely but, very rarely, my family member saw really bad stuff. One TA was known to have slapped children (primary school kids with SEN) on a couple of occasions because she couldn’t control her temper. My family member also met a couple of teachers who were open about their contempt for autistic people (“it’s not a condition, it’s just selfishness”) despite having chosen to work with them. A (thankfully small) minority of people choose to work with vulnerable, especially non-verbal, people because of what they can get away with.

Definitely needs raising, it does sound like the class could be playing up for her and she finds it stressful, but absolutely inappropriate and definitely needs investigating!

Please report.

I'm upset as my child was off sick then forced to do something during a lesson that ended up with him being sent to hospital the next day. He won't let me ring in but if it happens again I will have to seriously think about where to go from here.

I really think some people think teachers are untouchable and that some teachers are on a power trip.

Ironically the one time a TA was sacked after a child said they shoved/hit her the child later admitted they had lied.

I had a teacher in Primary school who used to mock and belittle kids in front of the class if they struggled or made mistakes or weren’t very good at something.

He was a nasty cunt, and I’ve never forgotten it. I’m a TA now and wouldn’t dream of treating a child like that.

Teachers/TA's are really not above any wrong doing! One of my primary teachers really didn't like me and made it very very clear. It's only since I've grown up that I've realised how bad her behaviour was and my mum never did anything about it. She picked on my autistic nephew a few years down the line too- she is and was an absolute disgrace.

Your poor son! I’d be raising hell with the school, this is NOT ok, whatever the possible ‘reasons’ given.

@RepeatSwan

I wouldn't phone, I would put it in writing to the headteacher and ask for a response.

If that is confirmed by a number of pupils that needs addressing properly.

Ive twice had to raise inappropriate behaviour, once was overtly sexist remarks made openly in class, once was humiliating pupils who were weakest in the subject. Both times the head took it seriously.

Good luck and tell your child you are raising it with the headteacher and you hope if anything else happens he will tell you.

Agree with this. Hope your son is OK and happy to go in today.

@MJMG2015

She might feel unable to cope with the class when the teacher leaves. She might also be incredibly stressed. The class might play up for her...

But it's unacceptable to treat the children like that. Totally unacceptable. I hope it doesn't affect DS's confidence in maths.

Then she's in the wrong job.

I've had to report a teacher a couple if years ago now. My daughter came home absolutely distraught! Teacher tried to explain that she'd had to be told off but it was all sorted and tomorrow was a new day blah blah. Got my dd home and she told me teacher had yelled as she hadn't completed the work in time. Dd got upset and cried, teacher called her a baby, mocked her crying, rolled her eyes repeatedly at her when she was becoming increasingly upset. All in front of the class. Dd was then physically dragged out of class and yelled at again in another room.

I rang the head immediately and while waiting for a call back I had other parents asking if she was ok as their child was worried about her and backed up her account of what had happened.

Head took it very seriously and other parents came forward with things she's said and done to their children.

She was suspended very quickly and subsequently sacked.

I've no doubt it's contributed to my child's anxiety and she's now unable to attend school.

Was hoping she'd never get to work with children again. But she's now a teacher at another local school!

Piss poor , no wonder people end up with maths phobias

She needs sacking.
Make sure you take this above the head teacher. I would refuse to allow your child to be in the same classroom as this TA too. She’s in the wrong job your poor son.