To ask if giving a false phone number is a thing?

[DuckyMcDuck]

Went to a cafe with a friend, we sat outside but she was asked for her phone number. Once we sat down, she admitted that she always gives a false number and so does everyone she knows.

Is this really a common thing? I haven't been in places very much but have always given my number when asked.

This. I’ve been to many places where this is is their method. I went in a bar a couple of weeks ago and it was an open book where people popped their name and number down then the next person in line did the same. Ridiculous. No data protection at all. Any one stood at the back of you could get your contact details.

And so rather than turn round and walk out again because that's unacceptable, staying for a meal/drink and giving false details instead is the better option?

And as a pp pointed out, what if those 'false' details actually belong to someone else and your meal/drink costs them two weeks wages for isolation? Or the person who the details actually belongs to does test positive and the venue is closed down, everyone else who gave their details affected, the staff at the pub affected by loss of income? All because someone wants a pint and can't possibly cooperate with measures put in place to minimise the risk of spreading the virus at the same time as trying to minimise the people affected and having to lose out. But as long as you don't lose out and get your pint all good eh?

@Potterpotterpotter - you know why they want your number? Stay at home if you have so little regard for everyone else. People like you make me very cross.

The fish and chip restaurant I went to recently gave all customers an individual paper menu with space in the middle to put your name and phone number. They then collected them in, explaining how they would store them and when the information would be shredded.

Giving a false number is despicable and irresponsible behaviour.

Threads like this make me laugh when I frequently read that MN is full of middle class posters who earn six figures. I always knew that was absolute rubbish. Anyone with the slightest grasp of decency would be disgusted at the idea of giving false numbers.

@Boobissue

I've always given a false number. I wouldn't answer an unknown call anyway so makes no difference.

Good to see the great British public pulling together!

If you don't want to give the details or answer a private number within 14 days, then don't fucking go anywhere that requires your details.

Why do the rules not apply to you?

Another one in support of this comment. I wonder if PP is proud of endangering everyone around them.

@ilovesooty I went to a garden centre cafe that did the same!

[quote BashfulClam]@Potterpotterpotter it is s vital mower it curbing the virus. If someone in the restaurant gets it (nothing to do with an app by the way) and tracers get your details and they are wrong the cannot contact you or anyone else you may have come into contact with.[/quote]
Vital move indeed, if it was that vital they would not be open in the first place.

If this was aimed at me@WhatwouldscullydoI have no idea what you're saying!

Tracking outbreaks relies presumably on results from testing?

If people don't have symptoms or don't get a test they won't know they have it ajd neither will the drs or hospital.

The government haven't exactly been honest about numbers have they.

And the first confirmed death in the UK from someone who hadn't even been abroad was back in January. So this has been in the country since then. So befire you start blaming track ajd trace dodgers when its been mandatory a week. And only in certain businesses so isolating in Costa when they went to tesco, the park, fishing at the lake and then fir a coffee is hardly likely to even be effective when it's been making its way through the population for 8/9 months.

People are naturally worried about their details falling into the wrong hands . It happens. Its why data protection laws are forever being updated. With smart phones and computers it dont take much or take long at all to cause all sorts of havoc. So I dont think its at all unreasonable to be a bit wary.

Personally I just think I won't bother. I can't be arsed. I'll make my own coffee at home

@Potterpotterpotter

I give a false number. It’s non of their business

You know we're talking about measures to reduce the spread of corona don't you? Not phone numbers to creepy guys?

At first I thought this was about men chatting women up, in which case false numbers are fine because you don't want to appear rude, but equally you might not be interested in a random.

If this is track and trace related, give the correct number FGS! It could save lives.

Hysterical mumsnetters as usual. You cannot be contacted if you have no phone @Potterpotterpotter 👍

[quote Boobissue]@ilovesooty I went to a garden centre cafe that did the same! [/quote]
Seemed a really good way of doing things.

[quote Pomegranatemolasses]@Potterpotterpotter, are you an 'anti-masker' also? You seem to take a pretty repellant gleeful delight in your vile and selfish opinions and actions.[/quote]
I wear a mask, wash my hands and even give to food banks. Shock horror.

@Potterpotterpotter, do you have to work because you're in the UK under some form of indentured service scheme? They are not entirely legal.

@GalaxyCookieCrumble

Hysterical mumsnetters as usual. You cannot be contacted if you have no phone *@Potterpotterpotter* 👍

Are there many people nowadays who have no phone at all?

@Gwenhwyfar

"But oh no! turns out they will only do this IF the positive case has been in close contact with someone else that they can ID."

Isn't that fair enough? The app, at least where I live, only does something if you come into close contact with someone for at least 15 minutes.

.....which makes the paper forms irrelevant, it doesn't matter what you put on them, they won't be used.

I too thought this was about the friend getting chatted up rather than track and trace 😂🤦🏽‍♀️

Track and trace - give your real number
Being come on to - fake number

that’s the point... I’m fine with them not contacting me, I don’t care if someone the other side of the cafe tests + a few days later. I have to work

Oh Ofcourse, forget anyone else though!
Let's hope it won’t be you or your family affected by covid next, by someone with the same selfish attitude as you.
As a vulnerable person ( who has Carried on working) My thoughts aren’t only on me, but on people who may be even worse than myself
I do worry about data however i worry about people dying of covid more.

I’ve only been asked for my details once - I asked the woman where my details were going to be put and for how long, she had no idea

Can kind of see why people are refusing if there’s ambiguity!

Our local cafe has a slip of paper on each table which you fill in with your details and hand in when you pay your bill. There would be no point in me giving a false number as it's a small town and everybody knows everybody else.

You do realise thet still could have a caught it from anywhere/everywhere else.

Yes dear. The idea of being able track and trace contacts is to cut chains of transmission and reduce the anywhere/everywhere else opportunities to catch the virus. Not rocket science, eh?

People are stupid

I assume the OP has lived under a rock for the last few months and doesn't understand what the number is used for.

what's laughable is how little people seem to know about data that is already held on them (yes Mumsnet have loads on you too!)

Every time you shop online you need to give a phone number.

But you are refusing to give a number when it could save lives?

If you read the small print it should say the paperwork is destroyed in 21 days.

That's a lot sooner than anything about you stored online.

Those posters talking about data protection are confusing different things.

@Potterpotterpotter

I give a false number. It’s non of their business

No but it is the business of the people you might have infected !

If you're not going to do it , don't go out .