To ask if giving a false phone number is a thing?

[DuckyMcDuck]

Went to a cafe with a friend, we sat outside but she was asked for her phone number. Once we sat down, she admitted that she always gives a false number and so does everyone she knows.

Is this really a common thing? I haven't been in places very much but have always given my number when asked.

Is anyone else curious to know what kind of face to face job Potter does?

Fingers crossed it isn’t retail, public transport nor anything that involves contact with people.

It's just not fair, it's wrong

(and illegal)

I gave my email and/or number visiting restaurants - multiple ownership in the month of August. Within 2 weeks, I received 3 email's to " Playing.." about PPE deals.
I've since had at least 8 withheld numbers calls.
Regardless of people saying this is a breach/illegal. It did and does happen.
This does become difficult, knowing you do your utmost to avoid sites and remain as private as possible regarding phishing/sales, when you know it has come from my track and trace compliance !

Set up a separate email address the @Playingchesswithpigeons ?

Eight calls is a non issue over that time span.

Sorry all of this is just poor excuses to break the law.

@whatsyournamenow please send your sister my regards. I don’t know any of you but my thoughts are with you both and I hope she recovers soon.

Oh thank you so much @linsey2581 we are in total shock at the moment. She started her radiotherapy but it's badly burnt her throat (she has it in her spine, the top end), she's having chemo after.

She's not going to be cured but we hope they can give her lots of time.

Honestly, until she found the lump she thought she was "healthy". It just goes to show, we don't know who is vulnerable.

Let's all calm down, give your number or don't go to pub, simple

@whatsyournamenow I too am sorry to hear of your sister- how awful. I had someone close in my family diagnosed with cancer last year and understand the shock. Sending you kind thoughts

This does become difficult, knowing you do your utmost to avoid sites and remain as private as possible regarding phishing/sales, when you know it has come from my track and trace compliance

I'm sorry but I don't think this counts as 'difficult' during a pandemic. In the old days every home- as a PP posted before- had a phone book with everyone's name and full address and phone number in.

Because of the nature of my work, and being on data bases , I get loads of emails every day that go straight into spam/ bin. Likewise my phone- I just hang up and block the number.

People do not know WHO you are unless you have an online presence which identifies you. All they have is a name and number and most of these calls and emails are automated, by the thousand.

@whatsyournamenow

Set up a separate email address the *@Playingchesswithpigeons* ?

Eight calls is a non issue over that time span.

Sorry all of this is just poor excuses to break the law.

I havn't broken the law - Assumption much? I went out when the Government encouraged us and rewarded us to do so. I can no longer and would no longer go out re further lockdown, further rise in stats. I'm saying why people might. Yes, it is a poor excuse I agree.

Selling personal and private details on, when you've provided them because it's the law, is also very poor. Eight calls may be a non issue for you, was big issue for me! I therefore choose to not eat out.
The OP asked if it was a common thing, yes it is. and this might be a reason for people to give false details,

Apologies @Playingchesswithpigeons people earlier in the thread were using these are poor excuses. You're clearly not one and have taken the decent option.

mussymummy what a horrible post. You sound like a mad person.

Thank you @JinglingHellsBells it's a shocker isn't it?

I'm trying to explain that no one knows whose vulnerable as much as they think they do.

In fairness @Janevaljane you've not covered yourself in glory on this thread.

You've. It answered my analogy of driving whilst over the limit?

You keep saying "but I'm not at risk", how do you know that?

I'd be sickened if you passed on CV to my sister and you could've stopped it. But you seem to think as long as you are alright it really doesn't matter if your a carrier. It's really not ok for you to go again st the law and be a potential killer, just the same as a drink driver.

What are you talking about? What's drink driving got to do with it? Why am I a potential killer?

Nuts.

@Janevaljane

mussymummy what a horrible post. You sound like a mad person.

Janevaljane no I'm not a horrible person. I am someone who has been actually bothering to follow government guidelines because I have family member who have been shielding due to chemo and it sickens me that there are so many arseholes out there that ruin it for people like me

@Janevaljane read the posts? You've spent all day on this thread, why have you suddenly only been able to pick out threads you want to argue against.

You do sound a very very aggressive person, who thinks that you are above the law.

You think that you're maturity and intelligence (self professed, there is no obvious maturity or intelligence shown on this thread) makes you above the law. Why is that?

It really doesn't, you don't know who you're passing it onto it could be someone like my sister.

Stay within the law and stop calling me nuts, I'm not.

@Playingchesswithpigeons I don't know if there is any evidence that the T&T scheme is selling phone nos. I'd be very surprised.

People go on about privacy but if you or anyone has ever bought anything online, food, clothes, anything on Amazon or Ebay your name, tel nos and address is out there. Most of the companies have a hidden opt-out clause for people to opt out of them passing on your details, but often it's part of the T&Cs that you can't. It's far more likely your details were found that way.

Actually @mussymummy, I really hope @Potterpotterpotter never gets Covid. If she does, chances are higher that she’ll spread it like wildfire.

This thread has been thoroughly depressing to read. I do understand why people would give out fake phone numbers in one respect. We’ve all been fed so much contradictory information, and we’ve all been led by a government that hasn’t got a clue what to do.

And equally I fully understand the view of those who have got angry towards such people for giving out false phone numbers.

This thread however is a classic example of what the government actually want. They want us to turn against each other. That way, the government gets off lightly for its own incompetence.

I genuinely think people, irrespective of what side they fall, are forgetting That we are all in this together. The one strength that society has, that the masses have, is unity. Yet this thread has shown just how quickly and easily we will turn against each other.

I think people are just fed up. It’s been a shitshow right from the start, and it isn’t getting better, irrespective of what we do. Politicians take the piss and get away with it. People die, people are still dying, and yet so many people can’t see it within themselves to care one bit about that.

But I actually understand why people would be driven to feeling like they no longer care. It’s not only lives that are being lost. But it’s also livelihoods. It’s also an enjoyment of life that is now being dragged through the gutter.

People are fed up. We have all been let down. And many are probably venting on sites such as this as it’s the only voice that many of us have left.

I think we should start to cut each other some flak. Irrespective of which ever side of the debate we are on.

Potterpotterpotter, you have been most probably intentionally goady on this thread, but everyone on this thread isn’t your true enemy. They are a victim of this shitshow just as much as you are. Fed up just as much as you are. Equally, people should try an understand why potter feels the way she does.

We are all in this together. Please please please remember that. Yes, the person next to you is a potential spreader of this virus, but equally that person is just as much a victim of this thing as we all are.

When people say someone is a potential killer if they do not abide by these laws to reduce the spread, that' s not a million miles away from men being accused of manslaughter and murder when they knowingly passed on HIV to women. The only difference is many people don't know they have Covid, whereas with HIV the men knew. But the outcome was similar for the victims.

@Roomba

Threads like this confirm I've been right in avoiding all restaurants, cafés and pubs this year!

I've literally been in one single restaurant since New Year. And I was dragged along to that reluctantly by the friend who'd booked it for when we met up without asking me first. I only went because they had an outdoor table.

I can't risk my vulnerable family members' or my health due to idiots lying like this. If providing your details is so awful, just don't go! Glad places are starting to insist on the QR codes. My friend runs a café and she phones the numbers provided to check they are real when customers come on. If it's fake, she refuses then service. It's amazing how many people 'suddenly remember' their other, real phone number when checked on like this - 'Oh, yeah, I wrote down my old number/work mobile, I forgot I had a different phone with me today, oops!'

I can't risk my vulnerable family members' or my health due to idiots lying like this.

I totally understand staying away from high risk places as you have vulnerable family members. However, I fail to see how someone providing the correct number would make any difference to the risk level? I might be missing something and probably am. Obviously the false number thing is shitty, and selfish. But if its about keeping away from places you are more likely to get covid in, then even if everyone was giving their correct numbers, it would still be a high risk place that should be avoided if protecting vulnerable people?

I agree @JinglingHellsBells but if they gave correct details they'd also know that it was a good chance of them having CV.

I despair. False numbers? I work for a large pub chain, that had a text/qr code thing to record visits. The amount of pushback I get, on minimum wage, is awful. We use paper as a backup, now I understand why.

I have wanted to say all day...

"IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO TEST AND TRACE, WEAR A MASK OR SANITISE YOUR HANDS THEN FUCKING STAY AT HOME AND MAKE MY DAY!!"

Arrrrggghjkjjjjjjn

But if its about keeping away from places you are more likely to get covid in, then even if everyone was giving their correct numbers, it would still be a high risk place that should be avoided if protecting vulnerable people?

That's a bit too logical for this thread.