To ask if giving a false phone number is a thing?

[DuckyMcDuck]

Went to a cafe with a friend, we sat outside but she was asked for her phone number. Once we sat down, she admitted that she always gives a false number and so does everyone she knows.

Is this really a common thing? I haven't been in places very much but have always given my number when asked.

This is one thread I would love the press to pick up on. Just to show how monumentally selfish, arrogant and hard if thinking some people are.

You'd rather murder someone (that's what it amounts to) than borrow a bit of money (2 weeks' income.)

Murder someone?! Oh my god that is just laughable! Do you feel this way about other viruses? Is passing on good old-fashioned 'flu also tantamount to murder? Did you not realise that we live in a dangerous world before this virus appeared on the scene? I certainly hope you don't drive around in a MURDER WAGON potentially knocking gambolling toddlers and wobbly old ladies all over the pavement.

Hats off to AvocadosBeforeMortgages for remaining so calm whilst being subjected to such aggressive, patronising, hyperbolic drivel.

[quote JinglingHellsBells]@ClarencesMum You've really shown how your mind works by that comment on old people.[/quote]
It was not a comment on 'old people'

It was a valid point, which you might to like to hear, but that does not make it any less valid.

@RegularHumanBartender

You'd rather murder someone (that's what it amounts to) than borrow a bit of money (2 weeks' income.)

Murder someone?! Oh my god that is just laughable! Do you feel this way about other viruses? Is passing on good old-fashioned 'flu also tantamount to murder? Did you not realise that we live in a dangerous world before this virus appeared on the scene? I certainly hope you don't drive around in a MURDER WAGON potentially knocking gambolling toddlers and wobbly old ladies all over the pavement.

Hats off to AvocadosBeforeMortgages for remaining so calm whilst being subjected to such aggressive, patronising, hyperbolic drivel.

I second this

I really thought the OP was about a bloke asking for friends number and her not being interested and giving a fake number. The responses were very confusing at first! 😅

So close pubs end businesses, lose jobs because grown adults are fucking idiots

Where did I say close business fgs. If people are meant to borrow living expenses they need to be able to pay them back which they can't if their hours no longer exist on the misconceptions that no one gets drunk or socialises after 10pm.

Pubs used 1o close ar 10.30 on Sunday beliege ke there was no shortage of lussed people and if you kill the income for midweek all that's gonna happen is they need to claw it back at weekends. So that could well mean more pissed people.

Closing time has never been nor will it ever be a reason to stop drinking ir socialising. They just take it to the parks or mates house instead. Especially now they all leave at exactly the same time and all pile on the same buses home

So businesses affected for a reason that has limited effects with what its supoosed to and pub owners no longer need to be paid furlogh cos they can open.

Do what you like as adults. You will get a fine if you are caught giving false info to track and trace though...

Wow. I opened this thinking it was going to be about giving a false phone number to sleazy blokes who ask for it. I can’t believe the sheer number of people openly admitting that they give a fake number for test and trace purposes! Jesus! I consider myself to be sensible and use my common sense where necessary amidst this Covid stuff and I am no fan of the government or their handling of most of this crisis, but one of the reasons that we are in the mess we are as a nation right now is because our T&T service is so woeful. Those of you giving false information out are only making that service less adequate. If you don’t want to give out your details, don’t go anywhere. Otherwise don’t be a bloody wanker.

In a large proportion of the country now you aren't supposed to be socialising in other people's houses so people continuing their drinking there are facilitating infection. Still I expect some people ignoring that rule are people who'll give false numbers out for track and trace too. Some people simply won't limit their activities and will make every excuse under the sun to justify themselves.

@mumwon

for any STUPID & SELFISH PIG IGNORANT - Not everybody who gets really ill or dies is old & vulnerable IT COULD BE YOU OR SOMEONE YOU CARE ABOUT the pub cafe will dispose of these numbers in 2 weeks they don't want them I know of a young male healthy in his early thirties who has had long covid since March - he is not alone Christ some people make me cross

What is really selfish is expecting someone like myself to lose their, home and entire income. Not allowing me to see my friends and familly when the risks to us are extremely low. The vulnerable should have been aggressively shielded and everyone else should have carried on as normal.

@Ginfordinner

This is one thread I would love the press to pick up on. Just to show how monumentally selfish, arrogant and hard if thinking some people are.

I think they are a bit busy with Trump and the SNP MP, or if Nicola Sturgeon had the power, ex MP.

@ClarencesMum MNHQ took exception to your post so go and argue with them. That's why it was deleted.

It was a truly ridiculous thing to say. Not worth even engaging with you.

[quote JinglingHellsBells]@AvocadosBeforeMortgages

You have money you just don't want to dip into it, so please stop being disingenuous. You gave that away by saying that you didn't fall into the group eligible for benefits and banged on about people having put money away to pay tax or a house deposit.

TBH I'd rather give you £500 with my blessing, or whatever you need to get by 2 weeks if you stop work than risk you killing my mum aged 94 by passing Covid on to her or someone who knows her and passes it on, or my DH who is medically vulnerable.[/quote]
I'll send you my PayPal if I'm told to self isolate. I'm sure the £500 will materialise

FWIW I am medically vulnerable and should have been shielding, but couldn't afford to. I also have beloved elderly relatives (one of whom is several years older than your mum) with comorbidities. I am quite well aware that I have family at risk. I suspect that, sooner or later everyone in the population will get COVID - and that it will kill my very elderly relative. I have made my peace with that on the basis that, at her age, something will kill her, and it's not the worst way to go. I have only seen my family twice since lockdown BTW.

Don't forget that people on furlough / SEISS were given £££ without anyone looking at whether or not they had savings, or whether their partner was earning. I was denied SEISS purely because I went self employed in summer 2019, which automatically disqualified me for support - even though, had I switched jobs but remained employed at the same time, I would have been eligible for furlough.

If I had managed to save up more money and had bought a home, then I could have got both a mortgage holiday and UC. Instead, my landlord is demanding full rent and I get no help to pay it.

I have had fuck all work in 2020, and there's a very real chance that all the contracts I've won for 2021 will be cancelled too, as working on them would be illegal.

I've already been financially screwed over so many times it's ridiculous - I'm just not willing to cooperate in financially screwing myself yet again.

Well I don’t want to give out my telephone number so I don’t go anywhere. The reason I don’t go anywhere isn’t because I’d have to give my number though. I just don’t find wearing masks for example in a shopping centre or pub enjoyable so I don’t go. Simple.

Hats off to AvocadosBeforeMortgages for remaining so calm whilst being subjected to such aggressive, patronising, hyperbolic drivel.

While I totally disagree that anyone who has tested positive or displays symptoms should continue to work if it means being face to face with other people, AvocadosBeforeMortgages has raised the issue that people who are financially constrained will work unless help is available.

It must be a terrible situation to be in, but I still think that burying your head in the sand and refusing to test if you suspect that you might be covid positive is monumentally selfsih, and will not prevent the spread of this awful virus.

Another lockdown and the same people will be whining about how they can't go out for coffee anymore.

Or more seriously maybe they or someone else vulnerable can't get a bed at the local hospital.

Sad and ridiculous attitude.

I work in a venue where we collect T&T. We take it seriously, sealed box to post slip into, held in locked cupboard for 21 days then shredded.

I expect most responsible businesses do the same kind of thing.

We all have to look out for each other in these times more than ever.

Have a bit of respect.

shocking behaviour could be putting everyone else at risk by providing false information!! if you want to go into a a pub or resturant then you should know the rules

This might be why the restaurant I’m going to tonight gave me a quick call back today on the number I gave to confirm my booking.

I wonder if we’ll end up at the stage where they have to ring your number to prove its right before you’re allowed in a place?

Fair enough if they do, it had never occurred to me that people would lie.

@AvocadosBeforeMortgages Instead of trying to defend your position, which is indefensible, maybe you need to start planning for a way to survive financially as this virus is not going away and what we have now will carry on for many more months.

It's a bloody good job this forum is anon.

If any of your clients knew you may be positive or have symptoms and would carry on serving them, whatever your work is, you would lose all your business like a shot.

@AvocadosBeforeMortgages

I can understand that having "fallen through the cracks" that a 14 days isolation could spell disaster for you/your business, and if it were something essential we were talking about here like shopping, visiting hospital etc I'd fully understand your resistance to opening yourself up to doing that without support.
However we are talking about leisure time, a visit to a pub, restaurant or cafe. As they are not the only places you can socialise for your mental health or otherwise, why insist on still going if doing so and cooperating with the measures in place would cost you so dearly? It's not something you HAVE to do, it's something you want to do, and that's why I think so many people are annoyed that people are giving false details when going to one of these places. People are arguing over leaving real details Vs leaving fake ones when the other option is to not put yourself in the position of having to do either by just not going. But no one wants to talk about that option because it's so deeply rooted in society that we have a God given right to do these things it's inconceivable that someone weigh up the situation and choose not to go. You seem to feel you have the right to go anyway, and circumnavigate the possible concequences of your choice by leaving false details, rather than taking responsibility for protecting your own income and not going in the first place. That's what I find selfish, because you want to do something, you don't need to, it's not essential, but you've put that want and 'right' above any responsibility you have as a member of society.
And that is rife, was before Covid, is even more so during Covid.
The reason things have been moved from guidelines to mandatory is because people just said "It's only guidelines" and refused now they're laws and so people are now effectively saying "Catch me if you can" while breaking them and putting other people at risk in the process. Other people are always acceptable collateral damage, but when you yourself are on the recieving end of the collateral damage (as in no help available for you) suddenly that's unacceptable.

Oh well F*k the rest of the people you might come into contact with who do! You utter selfish t*t

@ Potterpotterpotter

Selfish t**t

I've already been financially screwed over so many times it's ridiculous - I'm just not willing to cooperate in financially screwing myself yet again.

No doubt someone will be along soon to tell you to stop being poor and then problem solved.

Sadly, this is bloody true. I've had calls for a woman called Julia Clark/e ever since my second year at uni as she is always giving my number out- it's a super easy number with lots of repeating numbers so i assume she's just swapped one of the numbers out for another one and it happens to be mine!

Someone once said it could be because she 'had the number before me' but i've had the same number since i was 11 and i'm nearly 33, so i highly doubt it as it started happening a good 10 years after i had the number!

If it's something i don't want people to call i give my home phone as it has an answer machine and i can 'screen' the call, if it's important i give my mobile.

I really don't get all this drama about giving out a phone no and then having it used in some way as a prank etc. God, all you do is block it from that moment.

I get zillions of calls from ambulance chasers, people selling me stuff(trying to) and all kinds of crap. You just delete and block.