Trump vs Biden who would get your vote?

[tootsietops]

I’m up watching the first presidential debate from the UK. Who would get your vote?

YABU Trump
YANBU Biden

[Yankathebear]

@TitsOutForHarambe

It's like being asked if you'd rather eat dog shit or piss out razor blades.

I do not agree that Biden is the lesser of two evils. They are both equally dispacable excuses for human beings who have done horrible, unforgivable things, and it's really depressing that they are both in positions of such power. It seems that no matter what, evil will always rise to the top.

I don't even care who wins. Neither of them will do the country or it's people any good at all. They may as well just flip a coin.

Agree, may as well flip a coin! (Although I would say I would rather eat dog shit.

It’s an (American) horror story. Neither care about people, both care about power.

[managinged]

I will definitely be voting for Biden. I voted for Hillary Clinton four years ago and was shocked when Trump won.

Trump operates like a schoolyard bully, which means that his emotional intelligence is that of a ten-year-old angry boy. I think he's managed to alienate enough people so that Biden will win. Kamala Harris is a strong candidate for vice president so some people will vote for Biden because she's his running mate.

[Mummyoflittledragon]

Chocoholic
Maybe I wasn’t clear. It was a wtf moment when his name appeared, which prompted me to look up his family history. I am talking from his perspective and intent on protecting his dynasty; he clearly had no intention of using his cash to support someone not from his bloodline. Excluding everyone else despite his ailing health and advancing age odds on makes him a raging narcissist. I’m definitely not happy on him as a choice either.

[TitsOutForHarambe]

Although I would say I would rather eat dog shit.

Hmmm... interesting. I initially thought I would piss out the razor blades, but I suppose the dog shit eating wouldn't cause long term physical injury, so I can see why you would choose it... very tricky choice.

Perhaps we could get Biden and Trump to perform both of these feats, and then let us know which was worse.

[Yankathebear]

Perhaps we could get Biden and Trump to perform both of these feats, and then let us know which was worse

Perfect

[borntobequiet]

Really puzzled that anyone can say that both are equally bad. This is the sort of disingenuous nonsense that encouraged people to vote for a criminal narcissistic liar and failed businessman over a talented and experienced female politician (albeit with some pretty standard flaws as far as US politicians go) last time round.
Trump is clearly deranged.

[Soubriquet]

I would vote Saddam Hussein over Trump so that sort of shows my feelings on him

Don’t get me wrong, Biden isn’t showing a very good side but seriously no one could be worse than him

[Soubriquet]

@BedknobsNoBroomsticks

It doesn't matter what the results in November are Trump is not going to leave. If he loses he will declare the election null and void.

Is he allowed to do that?!

Surely not

[dollius]

The Democrats have totally pissed this away. They should have done much more to promote a better candidate. Elizabeth Warren would be 3 million times better than Biden. Even Sanders would

[MrsTerryPratchett]

@dollius

The Democrats have totally pissed this away. They should have done much more to promote a better candidate. Elizabeth Warren would be 3 million times better than Biden. Even Sanders would

Americans won't elect a woman. It's an embarrassment but there you go. Any woman cutthroat enough to get up there isn't enough of a 'lady' to win.

[Undercovermuvver]

I just watched.......I would rather eat my own sick than vote for either of them.

How dreadful that the US can’t find better ones.

[catgotmytongue]

user1471439310
Vote or your democracy dies. I too think Biden will stand down and had over to Kamala. You let Trump stay and things will get worse.

For the 12% who voted Trump. Why? I truly can't fathom.

[Nikori]

Things that stand out about the debate for me:

Trump was asked point blank to condemn white supremacy and refused to do so.

Trump’s insistence that a covid vaccination would be ready in a week. - completely delusional

Trump attacking Joe’s son given the state of his own kids.

Trump constantly attacking and bullying during debate, even attacking the moderator.

I’m shocked anyone thinks they are as bad as each other.

[Mummyoflittledragon]

cat
The mainstream media is terribly biased over there. It makes all the uk press look pretty centrist.

Have you watched any CNN? Anti trump btw. The newscasters interview
Pro Trumpers, who say things like “good on him” for evading tax. Fox News is unwatchable it’s so pro trump.

[RoseAndRose]

Neither

[SquirrelFan]

@user1471439310 American here. Please use your vote! I agree with pp, Biden can be a gateway/placeholder for a more charismatic leader. At least with Biden, things won't get worse in the USA. Let's face it, Biden is only as 'bad' as your average politician, but Trump is well on the way to dictatorship.

[IamTomHanks]

I honestly don't understand how people can say that Biden is equally has bad as Trump. Stop drinking the right wing Kool-Aid. Seriously WTF has happened to Mumsnet?

[Ohtherewearethen]

I'm genuinely concerned that if won't make a lick of difference who gets the most votes in November as Trump will not be going anywhere. Didn't he as much as admit he would change the rules to allow him to stay? He's a dangerous, racist, misogynistic, wants-to-fuck-his-own-daughter, sex pest, simpleton and I don't think his health is good. He is barely coherent, progressively so, and every time he opens his mouth he confirms what a fool he is. I predict that regardless of what the polls say, Trump will be tucking into Christmas dinner at the Whitehouse.

[nosswith]

It's not much of a choice but Biden.

The senate and House make up is also important.

[RoseAndRose]

It's not necessarily a case of who is worse.

Just that neither is good enough.

Cheap jibes about 'kool aid' don't turn an inadequate Democratic Party candidate into a good one.

[OlympicProcrastinator]

Biden. Did anyone see that expose on the BBC the other night on the Trump Campaign? He actively used Facebook and other platforms to discourage groups of voters who he thought would not vote for him. Black voters. He deliberately encouraged political disengagement of black voters. Yup. He’s scum in my view. I despise that monster with every fibre of my being.

However, I think the total lack of choice is pretty sad.

[AGoatAteIt]

Biden but mostly to get rid of Trump rather than because I think Biden would be a brilliant president.

I honestly think Trump will be staying put though. Partly because 2020 has been such a shitfest and partly because that man seems to be able to do anything he likes and say anything he likes and his supporters still go right on supporting him.

[Parker231]

I never understood why anyone voted for Trump in 2016 but are these two really the best Americans can come up with? The losers are Americans.

[Aragog]

Process of elimination vote - I could no way vote for Trump ever, so would have to be Biden.

[ListenLinda]

Can Trump actually make it so that he stays? Even if the polls don’t say so. That is a scary thought.

Anyone care to provide a dummy guide to how the voting system works in America, as it’s not the same here is it?