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Trump vs Biden who would get your vote?

422 replies

tootsietops · 30/09/2020 02:51

I’m up watching the first presidential debate from the UK. Who would get your vote?

YABU Trump
YANBU Biden

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MsStillwell · 01/10/2020 08:31

The video clips are pretty gross and I wouldn’t let within a foot of a child unsupervised.

From the videos I don't think anyone can state that he's a paedophile, but I do wonder if he's got a reputation for being grabby.

sunyla · 01/10/2020 08:33

Biden, though I think the US could do a lot better then the both of them.

HandfulofDust · 01/10/2020 08:42

Biden isn't by any stretch of the imagination perfect but I'd have to vote for him over trump any day.

Msmcc1212 · 01/10/2020 08:51

From the videos I don't think anyone can state that he's a paedophile, but I do wonder if he's got a reputation for being grabby.

He definitely oversteps the mark. A hand around the waist, playing with hair, nuzzling with his nose. Not appropriate. But it doesn’t make him a paedophile you are right. I’d be wary of him with my child though based on that footage.

Mainly though he’s not trying to become a fascist dictator. So I’d still have to vote for him. Sad

SpaceOP · 01/10/2020 09:04

@Msmcc1212

From the videos I don't think anyone can state that he's a paedophile, but I do wonder if he's got a reputation for being grabby.

He definitely oversteps the mark. A hand around the waist, playing with hair, nuzzling with his nose. Not appropriate. But it doesn’t make him a paedophile you are right. I’d be wary of him with my child though based on that footage.

Mainly though he’s not trying to become a fascist dictator. So I’d still have to vote for him. Sad

Plus he's acknowledged this and changed his behaviour. It's not ideal, but I think this is genuinely a case where someone (male) just doesn't realise how deep seated his misogyny but it can be recognised and adapted.
Heffalooomia · 01/10/2020 10:30

@Nikori

I thought I'd share what my Trump-loving Facebook "friend" posted today.

Now, I wonder why that happened.

Blind and unconditional loyalty to the dear leader It's a cult:(
Mintjulia · 01/10/2020 11:09

Biden. Trump is unfit for public office.

TheJessicaClarke · 01/10/2020 11:12

Trump

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/10/2020 11:15

That Biden modified his behaviour toward female children Proves nothing either way though. And there’s still the trans issue. I’d say misogyny rules supreme in head at the very least.

ListeningQuietly · 01/10/2020 11:23

US voters have a choice
Biden or Trump
if they do not vote they are allowing others to determine their future.
Any American who cares about their future
must vote
any American who cares about the future of the world ecosystem
has to vote Biden

MintyMabel · 01/10/2020 11:37

whom he believed could one day run for president, died a few years ago. I do wonder if his second son or daughter were ever considered

Hunter Biden spent decades struggling with alcohol and drug addiction. That would disqualify him in the minds of many in the US. Just look at how Trump brought it up in the debate.

I can't equate that with Trump who has sexually assaulted and raped women

And boasted about it to his hangers on.

That little girl flinches and moves away. Something happened. It’s sickening.

That's not what I saw, but when someone posts a video telling you what you are going to see, I can understand why some would fall for that suggestion.

They’ve deleted so many of them.
Ahh, the mysterious "they"....

That every white woman loves Warren but ignored Harris when she was running.

I didn't. I like Harris. On balance I preferred Warren because her policies were more aligned with my politics. But if either of them were the candidate I'd be concerned. The US was never going to go from Trump to a woman president.

ancientgran · 01/10/2020 11:51

www.c-span.org/video/?c4877770/user-clip-jeff-sessions-granddaughters-hair-caught-jacket-button

Slightly different video of the incident where it is pretty clear that Biden steps in to try and help when Jeff Sessions' trying to untangle child's hair from his cuff.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 01/10/2020 11:56

Your really giving me a choice of Trump or Not Trump in which case I vote Not Trump. I can’t really imagine anyone else worse than Trump, but I have an uneasy feeling that he is the warm up guy for someone in 4 year time who is worse, but the USA has been primed to accept it.

I sadly suspect Trump will win. It’s just the way things are going now...

DioneTheDiabolist · 01/10/2020 12:00

Biden.

Trump is a compulsive liar who thinks racism, sexual assault and child abuse are ok.

hexmeginny · 01/10/2020 12:01

Biden is just ghastly. Trump is evil.

God.

Can't we put an oak tree in charge instead.

Esspee · 01/10/2020 17:34

Neither

momtoboys · 01/10/2020 17:39

@RaisinGhost

I don't really like Biden but I would never ever vote for Trump no matter what. If his opponent was a pile of dog turds I'd vote for the turds.
I’m an American and I completely agree!
FanfictionFan · 01/10/2020 17:40

Anyone who says they would vote for Trump is racist. Yes there are issues with Biden but the US needs to heal, move forward and address the systemic problems the country is facing and the only way to do this is to vote Trump out of the oval office with an overwhelming number of votes for Biden because Trump will not leave quietly.

PMUZOE · 01/10/2020 17:58

TRUMP 100%... he’s done more good for that country than any other president. He has signed 3 peace treaties and is working to eradicate trafficking and draining the peodophilia swamp!!!!

somthinginthewoodshed · 01/10/2020 17:59

Who in their right mind would vote for that hideous man, Trump? Biden isn’t much of an opponent admittedly but anyone who votes that Orange Blimp 🍊 back into the presidency must be completely off their rocker.

FanfictionFan · 01/10/2020 18:08

@PMUZOE

TRUMP 100%... he’s done more good for that country than any other president. He has signed 3 peace treaties and is working to eradicate trafficking and draining the peodophilia swamp!!!!
Are you fucking serious? The only thing Trump has done is allow US citizens proudly wear their KKK hoods again except this time they're MAGA hats.

Trump is pushing the USA to the brink of civil war.

Parker231 · 01/10/2020 18:10

I assume that anyone who says they are voting for Trump, they are joking or totally mad!
With the population of the US, is this the best they can come up with. It’s seems it’s only the American far right, that think America is great. I’d never live in a country where you have the right to bear arms!

TG31 · 01/10/2020 18:17

I agree 1000%.

IamTomHanks · 01/10/2020 18:21

@Parker231

I assume that anyone who says they are voting for Trump, they are joking or totally mad! With the population of the US, is this the best they can come up with. It’s seems it’s only the American far right, that think America is great. I’d never live in a country where you have the right to bear arms!
They are Russian bots. Time to admit the trolls are out in force to make the Biden voters question themselves.
TheWK · 01/10/2020 18:21

@Nikori

Things that stand out about the debate for me:

Trump was asked point blank to condemn white supremacy and refused to do so.

Trump’s insistence that a covid vaccination would be ready in a week. - completely delusional

Trump attacking Joe’s son given the state of his own kids.

Trump constantly attacking and bullying during debate, even attacking the moderator.

I’m shocked anyone thinks they are as bad as each other.

This

And who on earth opted for ‘I grab them by the pussy’ Trump?

I really fear for America, and the World, if Trump is re-elected

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