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Bojo will 'deliver' no deal and then F off into the sunset right?

172 replies

flashbac · 29/09/2020 21:00

What do we reckon?

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ItsAlwaysSunnyOnMN · 29/09/2020 23:24

No

According to MN he has been about to walk many many times are they all DM readers as they are pushing this story too

He is hanging around he won the Tories a very comfortable majority they know that and they haven’t got anyone to replace him

There won’t be another election soon the tories are not going to give away the majority they have (I don’t think they would loose right now but wouldn’t win with so many seat)

Graphista · 29/09/2020 23:34

Well, the bookies seem to think he'll be off early January

And I also predict people WILL passively accept another "unelected" (yes yes I know we elect the party not the person Yada yada) pm especially if it's in the form of that "nice well spoken young man rishi" though he would have to win a leadership election first and I'm not sure he has enough support for that.

Not hopeful exactly about who we'll get but surely, even another Tory whoever it is will be slightly better than Johnson because it'd be damn hard to be worse!

It's like everyone hated thatcher and Cameron and Johnson went "you think they were bad?! Hold my drink!"

Mind I wouldn't put it past them to hold a GE in hopes of forcing labour to grasp the doubly toxic and steaming cup of shite that is the poisoned chalice of Brexit AND covid!

Then people will stupidly think labour fucked up when they don't fix 40 years or at least 10 years of ineptitude in 4 years!

notdaddycool · 30/09/2020 01:00

I suspect there is a type of person who is very common on this site who has not, and will not ever, forgive him for Brexit and will never see anything he ever does with any positivity. Things could change quite quickly, I suspect there will be a deal and if we find an effective vaccine things could look very different inside a year. Boris wins elections, the Tory party, often brutally and with no sentiment, ditches leaders who look like they will lose, but it’s really early to make that call. I also highly doubt there will be another election before the next boundary review.

user1471565182 · 30/09/2020 01:21

Whats that sort of person, daddy? the sort of person with the capacity to make simple judgements?

Newjez · 30/09/2020 02:08

@Justanotherlurker

Tend to agree but it could trigger another election as I can’t see people passively accepting a unelected PM again.

That won't happen, 4 years of Tory Government with a huge majority, Trounced Labour in the last election, Starmer not offering any resistance with the tory back benchers re lock down.

Even with brexit (which isn't looking as bad as the projections envisioned), there will be no snap election

Seriously?

Brexit is looking like the shit show to end all shit shows.

It's looking like making covid look like a mild inconvenience.

Newjez · 30/09/2020 02:11

Please daddy, Can you quickly outline his victories.

Here's the back of a postage stamp for you to write on

What has he done well?

ItsAlwaysSunnyOnMN · 30/09/2020 02:26

The bookies that wrongly predicated that labour would win last year (how could they get that so wrong) and that we wouldn’t vote to leave the EU

Bookies like to create interest

The Tories would rather hold on to power no matter how bad things become than hand over to Labour It’s just not how they operate. This is why they are so successful as a party they will always in the end pull together to keep in power That is the most important objective. No one is being lined up as they know Boris Johnson is popular with voters.

Majority of Voters have Brexit fatigue works well for the Tories they can spin a poor deal to look like a wining deal that Brutal Boris fought for as not many are interested in the finer details the hit on the economy (if so sudden) can quite easily be blamed on the pandemic which we know is and shall continue to damage

For Labour unfortunately with parliament not running as it usually does Keir Starmer hasn’t got the platform he would usually have that isn’t great he needs it to show unity and his leadership We are not really seeing that

Wouldn’t surprise me if Boris Johnson is more popular than ever in six months time. And he knows from the moment he walks away he is a very wealthy man I think his ego will outweigh his greed

ItsAlwaysSunnyOnMN · 30/09/2020 02:36

Boris Johnson won voters over in the EU referendum it wasn’t Michael Gove and Nigel Farage though popular with a significant amount of voters it was Boris Johnson’s televised speeches particularly the last one (odd the BBC allowed him to make the last speech)

He also won the Tories a very comfortable majority in parliament that shall oversee Brexit

Both very significant as this impacts us all regardless if you feel that is posit or negative irrelevant

MoonJelly · 30/09/2020 02:46

There's a credible theory that the likes of Murdoch put Johnson in power precisely because they knew that he would blindly push no deal Brexit through and they would make a fortune out of it; then when inevitably it turns out to be disastrous for the country they let Johnson take the blame, push him out, and put someone like Gove in power to try to rescue the economy by things like getting rid of the benefit system and selling off the NHS. The only problem is that no-one took a possible pandemic into account; Johnson is notoriously lazy and never signed up for coping with Covid, is hating the reality of being PM, so will end up fucking off much earlier than Murdoch and friends planned - thus creating the danger, as they perceive it, of Labour getting in.

PhilCornwall1 · 30/09/2020 04:24

To be honest, I wish he would just fuck off now. Surely everyone knew what he was going to be like.

nosswith · 30/09/2020 07:07

I have read this suggestion before and it does not seem too far fetched, we will have to wait and see.

Mr Johnson will definitely not be PM by the time of the 2024 general election if there is any possibility of the Tories not gaining another majority.

The only sunset I would like him to be seeing is from a prison window.

Trixie18 · 30/09/2020 07:09

You've hit the nail on the head!

KaptainKaveman · 30/09/2020 07:11

@BigChocFrenzy

He'll also want to walk away fast - whistling like Cameron - before the final numbers for Covid come in, with the UK currently having one of the highest death rates and highest falls in GDP

The Tories would probably dump him as a scapegoat anyway, if he doesn't walk

Gove will be sharpening his knife again, this time being more careful not to stab himself
Rishi might have a go, too

Sounds about right.
KaptainKaveman · 30/09/2020 07:14

If he leaves to 'spend more time with his family' who does that actually mean? what about the violinist and the superinjunction we aren't allowed to know about ?

Othering · 30/09/2020 07:18

He's already overstayed his welcome. He can't go soon enough quite frankly. Pretty much anyone would be better than him, although I draw the line at Pritti Patel.

StealthPolarBear · 30/09/2020 07:20

No deal Brexit not looking too bad? That's good news and I'd like to know more - I'm looking for reassurance

StealthPolarBear · 30/09/2020 07:21

I think next leader will be Gove. At this point I don't much care, arent they Al much of a muchness?

Giggorata · 30/09/2020 07:33

Someone said that Boris Johnson wanted to become Prime Minister, and wanted to have been Prime Minister, but the bit in the middle, with all the work and responsibility, not so much.

I think he'll walk away as soon as he can.

Clutterbugsmum · 30/09/2020 07:43

Of course he will.

He only ever wanted the job title of Prime Minister, he never wanted to do the actual job.

Yep, just like Dave did after the Brexit vote. Nope Cameron always stated he didn't want the Brexit vote, and he would voted against it . And said he would stand down if the vote went through.

Itsinthetreesitscoming · 30/09/2020 07:50

Looking at the Tories confused, inconsistent, chaotic and contradictory response to coronavirus has made me even more concerned about Brexit. It has become abundantly clear that this utter shite show will be not able to deal with the level of detail required for Brexit. And yes Boris will fuck off ignominiously into the sunlit uplands leaving someone else to sort out the mess.

OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer · 30/09/2020 07:56

I reckon they'd have got rid of him already if they felt they had a viable replacement, but it will be convenient to have him as a scapegoat.

AlpineSnow · 30/09/2020 07:58

FFS give it a fucking rest
Yes, we must never question our dear leader. It's not allowed. Oh wait, that's North Korea I'm thinking of. Crack on

OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer · 30/09/2020 08:01

I don't think there'll be another election before 2024 though, simply because the Tories obviously hold the balance of power and they'll know they are likely to lose seats. It would take more than significant disruption, it would take a lot of MPs changing sides/accepting that their political careers are likely to be over, like the Tory rebels last September.

jasjas1973 · 30/09/2020 08:19

There will be no snap election and Johnson will stay, his ego will demand that he oversees the roll out of any CV vaccine.

showmethegin · 30/09/2020 08:23

Johnson couldn't deliver a parcel.

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