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To miss E?

634 replies

CroutonCrab · 27/09/2020 21:01

Might be all the stress in the world at the moment but it’s made me think about what I’d give for a couple of doves and the clammy hands that come with them. Don’t think my heart could take it now Sad

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Quietlyloud · 05/10/2020 20:10

Benjispruce2 You can fuck right off with that bully label. I have not bullied you at all and people like you watering down it’s meaning are pathetic.

iheardabell · 05/10/2020 20:44

'Working Class' Grin
You haven't got a clue!
I hung out with MC kids and Toffs.
The Toffs definitely hit it harder than us 'poor' MC kids. They had all the money and none of the responsibilities, I wasn't jealous though, they had no reason to ever stop, which has its consequences.

I'm too old too, but would love a fucking good rave now! Don't miss the jaw ache....but everything else was brilliant!

Sunshiney1981 · 05/10/2020 20:46

Back in the ‘day’ class was nothing to do with it. Everyone I knew was taking something whether they were at private school or the local comp. And those dealing it too. Although we never really came across any big time dealers in person so I couldn’t comment on their ‘class’.

Sunshiney1981 · 05/10/2020 20:46

I agree. The private school kids were the ones hammering it all the most.

Tantrumcity · 05/10/2020 20:55

100% the posh kids were the wildest...!

I was brought up middle class I’d say..the working class kids I knew mainly drank and/or smoked weed (not all obviously)
Friends I had from a very prestigious private girls school were scary! 😂one party I went to with them and all their pals was the very definition of excess..they loved to have a good time and pushed it much further that anyone I’d met..still know people like this and it’s the same.

The comment about working class people and where do you even get drugs from..is downright ignorant, judgemental and orrery disgusting to be fair. It just shows exactly how little you know and why you have no place commenting on this thread.

Tantrumcity · 05/10/2020 20:55

*Pretty disgusting

iheardabell · 05/10/2020 21:07

Agreed, as far as I saw all the 'classes' dealt to each other/themselves and partied together too.
In that respect it was a great leveller.

Rosehip10 · 05/10/2020 21:18

MDMA is so great isn't it?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-54413820

DioneTheDiabolist · 05/10/2020 21:28

Yes it is @Rosehip10, you'd wonder why the government don't just make it legal in order to protect young people.Sad

karenkanta · 05/10/2020 21:30

Yes it is @Rosehip10, you'd wonder why the government don't just make it legal in order to protect young people

Absolutely this.

LadyofTheManners · 05/10/2020 21:37

Look,no one is saying that drugs aren't bad. No one is saying they aren't dangerous. Yes some have pointed out that drink can be destructive too.
I don't doubt drugs are cut with even worse crap now.
However, I also know at least 2 of my nephew's have taken ket (and I immediately told them to please be careful, a mate of mine took that and thought he could fly from a first floor window, safe to say he ended up with two broken legs. Never saw the attraction of a horse tranquilizer). I also found out quite by accident of TikTok that my other nephew had done E during his first two years of uni. Again, I gave him a call, told him outright I had seen, he got very embarrassed and said "oh shit are you going to tell my mum" and I said, no, I'm not, you're 21, I like to think I can trust you to make good decisions and not fuck uni up like I fucked my chance up to go.
Do I think none of them have done anything more than lemonade since, no I don't. But I won't preach to them because that was exactly what my generation got at school, in my case from our vicar RE teacher who looked like he would find tea a bit strong.
But do we think there would be as many deaths, or gangs, or teens on mopeds shooting each other if you could pop to boots and buy it? No there wouldn't.
I did silly things in my teens. And my twenties. I had some shit nights and some I still look back on and feel happy I experienced it. I've lost mates to drink, drugs, and accidents, cancer, MS and other stuff. It doesn't change or take away that I did it. It doesn't mean I can imagine being up for it now, because I would need a month to recover. But I don't regret that I lived my life and came out the other side because what would be the point?
There are still times if a certain tune comes on that I can close my eyes and just for a minute I can remember what it was like when I was a skinny underfed 17 year old with no parents and no responsibility to anyone but myself.
I won't apologise for it. It happened. And now I'm a boring suburban mum.
There will always be young people, and older people, taking drugs. It will remain that naughty thing all the while there's an edge to procuring it. If you could buy it alongside your mascara, condoms and pile cream I doubt it would hold the same novelty factor.

dontbelieveboris · 05/10/2020 22:34

I'm a tiny bit younger (early noughties club scene) and further north but god this thread has taken me back...gatecrasher, always wanted to go Wigan pier and gutted I missed the chance. I don't remember any fighting or even bitchiness in clubs back then everyone was so happy and nice to each other.
Great memories OP thank you Grin

Woundedadmiral · 05/10/2020 22:51

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Woundedadmiral · 05/10/2020 22:53

And perhaps spare a thought for all the people caught up in drug addiction, production and trafficking around the world who would not be remotely helped by your bright idea to just have it stocked at Boots.

Emeraldshamrock · 05/10/2020 22:55

@Rosehip10 An awful tragedy one of the victims had ketamine on them, dealers are selling ket as MDMA or mixing it.
Drugs do need to be legalised and monitored.
They certainly aren't going anywhere with all these new legal highs in the mix.
I'm glad I had my times in the 90's it is crazy now.

Valenciaoranges · 05/10/2020 23:03

Partied hard, but never felt the need to take drugs. I don’t get why people need them.

mswales · 05/10/2020 23:03

Those of you with supportive partners, please take a weekend off every now and again and have a big night out! All the fun you had before still exists! Albeit not as good as the 90s were

Damnloginpopup · 05/10/2020 23:08

My daughter has been at uni 8 days. One of her 4 housemates in halls (a different uni) was friends with the 18 year old girl who died in Newcastle this weekend.

I'm feeling it, as a parent similar to her parents. As it happens we had a death suspected to be due to a heart attack from speed use at work last weekend.

karenkanta · 06/10/2020 05:30

There are still times if a certain tune comes on that I can close my eyes and just for a minute I can remember what it was like when I was a skinny underfed 17 year old

Definitely this.

Theorangeorange · 06/10/2020 06:44

Thanks for the thread OP - I have memories and friends from those hedonistic years that will last a lifetime! No regrets.

For those who are "utterly shocked and appalled" by this thread you need to get real!
Things are so much worse now, Ketamine is rife, even in schools. Back in day day, as I remember it was all young adults, well I was definitely when 18+ when partying....now they are children.
Your naivety isn't going to help spot the signs in your children, nor will your ignorant stance on the subject if they ever come to you for help.

oakleaffy · 06/10/2020 08:14

Prohibition is the reason so -called 'MDMA' has become so dangerous these days.
A precursor {ingredient} has been so strictly controlled {Safrole}

Instead Aniseed oil is used as a precursor.

And it is deadly.

Professor Nutt explains:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/05/superman-pill-ecstasy-pma-deaths-drugs-policy

Whatnext2018 · 06/10/2020 08:48

Definitely with the hearing a certain time and it takes me back to that skinny 17 year old with the world in front of her, so much excitement back then.
Life has been amazing in different ways since then and isn’t terrible now. I’ve travelled for years, lived in different countries, had a fulfilling career, a beautiful daughter..but those days..they were something else and definitely the high point in my life..pardon the pun 🙈

LadyofTheManners · 06/10/2020 08:56

@Whatnext2018

Definitely with the hearing a certain time and it takes me back to that skinny 17 year old with the world in front of her, so much excitement back then. Life has been amazing in different ways since then and isn’t terrible now. I’ve travelled for years, lived in different countries, had a fulfilling career, a beautiful daughter..but those days..they were something else and definitely the high point in my life..pardon the pun 🙈
Oh from saying I'm now a boring suburban mum, I wasn't saying life sucks compared.

It's how my DD sees me though!

I'm so happy I got out the other side, I know a few who did sadly fall into harder drugs, I don't believe due to our partying days but more that they had other things going on that made them an easy target for the dealers.
I calmed down when I got pregnant with DD, so at 25, I then had DS too. Ive had a few nights before hitting my mid thirties but I think the novelty wore off.
But I would give anything to go back there, for starters it would be lovely to have no grey hair and a size 6 waist and boobs that hold themselves up without scaffold. I think lockdown did make us all nostalgic.

Quietlyloud · 06/10/2020 10:55

Woundedadmiral Serious question, why wouldn’t it help? The things you pointed out aren’t great now so why stuck with what clearly doesn’t work? If it was legal and regulated you wouldn’t have people dying or not knowing what it’s been cut with.

Bbq1 · 06/10/2020 11:51

@Quietlyloud

Woundedadmiral Serious question, why wouldn’t it help? The things you pointed out aren’t great now so why stuck with what clearly doesn’t work? If it was legal and regulated you wouldn’t have people dying or not knowing what it’s been cut with.
Here's a thought: people don't take drugs and then there's no risk. Simple really. Why do drugs need to be legalised, why do people NEED to take them? Legal or not, they will still be potentially very damaging. Teenagers aren't stupid, they can understand more than any other previous generation that taking drugs is a massive risk.