To think why this is one of the reasons we have an obesity problem.

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Friend on facebook has put about 2 stone on this past year. She posted a selfie the other day with a statement saying how she's finally learning to love herself, she may not be perfect but it's her body and she loves it!!! She's on the verge of being obese and suffers with chronic backache. Of course she had comments saying 'looking good hun' 'you beauty!' Etc.

I've noticed quite a lot of younger ones doing this 'be fat and proud' crap.

Am I wrong to think that this along with many other things is why we have an obesity problem.

higher carb. i'm probably one that eats higher carb.
i believe all foods are healthy in moderation.
so i have honey in my hot water and lemon, i make my own salad dressings which often call for honey.
i eat lots of veggies including a variety of potatoes root veg and squash.
i pickle beets and cucs which calls for sugar.
i make my own jam with fruit from my yard.
all these help make the plate colorful and makes my meals enjoyable.
pasta rice and such are needed to balance out the plate.

it's all about portion sizes for me.

I think societies methods for solving obesity causes the opposite effect

depends on the society.

@eckhart carb based foods are part of a healthy balanced diet, they contain nutrients that aren't or aren't as readily available in other foods.

I don't believe in any diet (in the broad sense not just weight loss) that cuts out or rather massively reduces a food group.

We are built to eat a variety of foods to gain all the nutrition we need.

Several nutrients are better absorbed if consumed at the same time as foods containing certain others eg vitamin c and iron rich foods aids iron absorption

I'm not advocating a HIGH carb diet but a balanced healthy one - which includes carb based foods

Also the 1950s diet in the UK was so boring, no wonder people were slim

What's also often forgotten is that most adults smoked then too which is an appetite suppressant.

@HotPatootiebootie well said!

@Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd I didn't see that thread but it doesn't surprise me

Now, now, Graphista, this is MN. You know there's no such thing. They are all keto and run 10km before work and then strength train daily. Anyone who doesn't is either fat or definitely, without a doubt, going to become fat if they don't low carb, 100% for definite 

So true!

@Eckhart ironically the first time I learned how to assess a piece of research starting with "who funded it and what is their agenda" was while doing my nursing degree!

I personally think that this 'new trend' of loving the skin that you are in, is often borne out of low self esteem and defensive action. However, it is important to like yourself/get into a positive mind set in order to first lose weight, as most over eating is linked to emotions/mental state. She's not necessarily saying that it's great being overweight, or advertising it, just saying that she's overcome negatively and is now embracing/accepting the way she looks. She probably needs a confidence boost, so tell her that she looks nice!

[quote Graciebobcat]@SchrodingersImmigrant Of course it's personal responsibility, but fact that so many people are overweight must tell you that it is a hell of a lot more to it than that and that society has a serious problem. And if you can't grasp that basic fact, than you have a far bigger and more entrenched problem to deal with than someone who has a bit of weight to lose.[/quote]
I think that has something to do as well with general lack of personal responsibility tbh not just about eating. I see it often on people around.

I want to survive COVID

Great but losing a stone will make no difference to your chances.

I don't think that carbs are evil but I do think they're responsible for our societal weigh gain.

Really, carbs have only just been invented have they? I seem to remember them being around when I was a child (and when obesity wasn't the problem it is today). Those days when mothers kept the tins full of baking and we ate, mostly white, bread in quantities.

I agree . There is nothing to be proud about being overweight. it's nothing to be ashamed of either.

We don't worry about stating 'smoking kills' or 'drink wisely', but somehow stating 'Eat healthily within your recommended daily calory allowance' is seen as 'fat bashing'.

The issue is that people are moaning that fat people are happy sometimes with who they are, or that others think they're beautiful/attractive/good people etc.

The thread isn't about fat being unhealthy. It's about a fat woman being happy with herself and others complimenting her.

The health/NHS card is only paid after certain people prove themselves to be assholes.

Seriously the whinging... why do I have to be nice to fat people? Why do I have to accept fat people?

Do some of you even hear yourselves?

The worst thing you can be is FAT and HAPPY because all the skinny wankers can't deal with it because is demeans their body currency

Fat wankers have issues too.

I don't believe in any diet (in the broad sense not just weight loss) that cuts out or rather massively reduces a food group

Do you not think our carb consumption has hugely gone up though, since we were advised to go 'low fat'? So that what now looks like a big reduction is actually just a return to what we were doing before?

The worst thing you can be is FAT and HAPPY because all the skinny wankers can't deal with it because is demeans their body currency

So if you’re skinny, then you’re a wanker? Envy and jealousy are such unattractive traits …

All you people who say it's about our health, do none of you ever do anything unhealthy?🤣

@eaglejulesk

No, I'm not saying carbs have just been invented. I'm saying that we eat more now than we used to. Especially sugar, and also that 2:1 fat/carb ratio that mimics breastmilk.

I'm quite aware that humans have been eating carbs for a long time.

@NoMoreReluctantCustodians

All you people who say it's about our health, do none of you ever do anything unhealthy?🤣

Everyone eats something unhealthy🤷🏻 obviously. Even healthy thing can become unhealthy in a certain amount

I also feel some of us were made to eat all what was on our plates, when we were younger so therefore eat when not hungry or eat more than we need x

Do you not think our carb consumption has hugely gone up though, since we were advised to go 'low fat'? So that what now looks like a big reduction is actually just a return to what we were doing before?

It might apply to some, I doubt it applies to EVERYONE who's overweight

And yes I think demonising fat was just as damaging

It might apply to some, I doubt it applies to EVERYONE who's overweight

I think everybody has a different story, yes. There's often a big cross over between the 'You just have to eat less', and the power of the hormones driving a higher carb diet. I used to be in the 'You just have to eat less' camp, until I looked at some proper research.

The link between 'low fat' and obesity is very alarming, and compelling.

This "dont cut out a food group" business. What about all the gluten free and vegetarians?

The food group that needs cutting out is processed crap food IMO. And snacks.

I have a friend who is perfect size 10, but all I hear when we meet, is how horrible she looks, how she would like longer legs, blue eyes and so on. Honestly, she is really good looking, but in all years that I've known her (30+) she's always been unhappy in her own skin. Not sure which is worse: my friend or OP's.

Glutenfree is for medical reasons. Lot's of people have issues with it. Though I think it's more like white overly bleached whatever flour. I am fine with rye🤔 Quite a few people I know are

@copperoliver

I also feel some of us were made to eat all what was on our plates, when we were younger so therefore eat when not hungry or eat more than we need x

I was repeatedly told how i drove my mother to tears and on the brink of suicide because I wouldn't eat as baby/toddler.

Then at 6 I was given some "appetite inducing " (probably placebo god knows what bullshit) disgusting drops every single morning.

By 8 I was the fat one and my nickname was sumo.I'm still the fat one.

Neither gluten nor meat is a food group. I agree with you about the junk food.

The worst thing you can be is FAT and HAPPY because all the skinny wankers can't deal with it because is demeans their body currency. They work hard denying themselves treats and slogging away in the gym searching for that elusive self acceptance, happiness and popularity that comes with being body perfect and like the front of the magazines and movies. But then they see a fat person being happy EVEN WITH THE FAT and it depreciates and demeans their effort

You do realise the irony of this don’t you? On the one hand you’re arguing for acceptance of all weights, that you shouldn’t define people by their weight, shouldn’t assume anything about anyone purely via their weight, shouldn’t shame people for their weight etc?- then you proceed to call anyone slim a “skinny wanker” who is hateful, jealous and spends all their time feeling bitter at the gym.

Lmao you are no better than the fat shamers! You are doing the exact same thing and you can’t even see it!!!

@Eckhart

No, I'm not saying carbs have just been invented. I'm saying that we eat more now than we used to. Especially sugar, and also that 2:1 fat/carb ratio that mimics breastmilk.

What ingredients do you think mothers used in the baking? I actually came back here to add to my post that we also ate a lot of root vegetables and had pudding every day. Lots of starch/sugar.

Whenever I want to lose a bit of weight all I do is eat less, and maybe add 15 minutes to my daily walk. I eat whatever I like, and yet the weight still comes off. The amount we eat has changed - just go to a cafe and look at the size of the sandwiches, cakes, muffins etc. They are twice the size they used to be, sandwiches are often sold in packs of two etc. We seem to have lost sight of what a normal portion is.