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Boyfriend thinks I am not ambitious.

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ambioussssssssss · 24/09/2020 22:13

I am 25. I have been to university studying a degree related to animals. I hope to go on to do a postgraduate degree in something more technical in around two years time. I just want to make sure I know what I want to do.
I find there are not really much jobs about working with animals in my area and if there are, they get tons of applications.

Before university, I had a part-time job as a receptionist.
After struggling to find a job related to animals, I have decided to go back to receptionist work but I have only been able to find work through an agency (I don't know if this is because of coronavirus or if receptionist jobs are usually hard to get?).

The past 2 weeks, I have had quite a bit of work, but today I didn't get a call.
I phoned boyfriend, who has a contracted job which is relatively well-paid and he didn't go to uni, he did an apprenticeship once he left school and has made his way up in his company. I told him that I am feeling anxious about the work situation and I am not loving zero-hour contract/temporary work and I hate the inconsistency of it.
He asked if I was still applying for jobs and I said yes (as I am). I have an interview in 2 weeks, which I feel nervous but excited about. Even if I don't get it, it's nice to get an interview.

However, I was a bit struck back by what he said. He told me he understood how rubbish agency work is and said that I must lack ambition as if I really tried hard enough, I would have a full-time job by now. I debated him with this and said it's easy for him to say in the job he has about how 'easy' it is to find a job if you have the drive.

His reasoning for saying this was that he hasn't been out of work since leaving school because he has the drive and motivation.
I don't understand why he doesn't see the ambition in me?
I left school, I worked part-time. I went to uni. I got a first-class degree. Yes if I could go back in time I would probably choose a different degree in terms of career prospects but being young, I chose what I would enjoy. But I can't think like that as it is done.

I am not on agency work and hoping to do further studies within a couple of years. But I don't want to rush into it and make a mistake.

I feel he's embarrassed by my job. When people ask what I am doing now I have left uni and I say I am doing agency work as I am finding the job market quite tough, I feel he cringes.

I'm feeling really down now. Like my life is going nowhere and that it's my fault.

OP posts:
BuzybB33 · 25/09/2020 12:14

Let's look at this another way

Do you want to be 50
Renting ?
Have children ?
Have career ?
Your own pension ?
Do a job you enjoy or a job that pays well ?
Or do lots of different jobs & travel ?

At 25 you have a bit of time on your side
At 50 you don't have time

It's easy to work 2 jobs & study at 25
Not so at 50 when you have less energy

You are in the real world now of work, bills, taxes

Make some plans

bookmum08 · 25/09/2020 12:17

Actually if you all read what I originally said I suggested that the OP stops worrying about a 'full time career' and sticks with the part time work and then also does volunteer work (or it could be a training course) in the time she isn't working. I never said she should just give up work completely.
Volunteering can sometimes then lead to an 'actual job' so she would maybe then have full time work or she could stick with part time work and make a massive difference to something in society that helps other people.
Another thought... what if she did go and get a full time job. But it pays considerably less than the boyfriends. Would it still be seen that he is 'subsidizing' her because despite the fact they could work identical hours a week she earns less (or vice versa).

BuzybB33 · 25/09/2020 12:20

Work FT & volunteer
I've done this

Lockdownseperation · 25/09/2020 12:21

It sounds like you need to decide which career you want rather than doing another course vaguely in the area of interest.

What makes you want to work with animals?
What makes you want to teach? Have you had any experience in schools? Teaching is often very different to what people imagine it to be.

bookmum08 · 25/09/2020 12:22

havaiana I don't see it as "the man's obligation* at all. I would have said the same thing if it was a girlfriend and not a boyfriend. Or if the OP was male and it was a girlfriend. Or two males together.

Florencex · 25/09/2020 12:23

@bookmum08

Actually if you all read what I originally said I suggested that the OP stops worrying about a 'full time career' and sticks with the part time work and then also does volunteer work (or it could be a training course) in the time she isn't working. I never said she should just give up work completely. Volunteering can sometimes then lead to an 'actual job' so she would maybe then have full time work or she could stick with part time work and make a massive difference to something in society that helps other people. Another thought... what if she did go and get a full time job. But it pays considerably less than the boyfriends. Would it still be seen that he is 'subsidizing' her because despite the fact they could work identical hours a week she earns less (or vice versa).
What would you say to a female poster that said her partner wanted to work part time on a zero hour contract and she would need to cover the majority of the bills, all because he wants to volunteer to look after abandoned kittens in the shelter.

OP has expressed no interest in volunteering anyway.

bookmum08 · 25/09/2020 12:29

Jolly nice for you buzyb.
I used to work full time. As I said earlier it made me desperately unhappy so thoughts of doing volunteer work or finding another job or training for something wasn't on my radar because once I finished work I was mentally exhausted and sometimes could barely even bother to eat decent food.
Sometimes people need to step away from that to focus on themselves. If you have someone who supposedly loves and cares for you (ie a boyfriend) then they should support you - in whatever that takes.

bookmum08 · 25/09/2020 12:32

Florence the OP said she wanted to work with animals. Volunteering at charity run animal places is a good way to START. It could lead on to a job.

bookmum08 · 25/09/2020 12:34

And shall we all just let abandoned and abused animals just die on the streets shall we?

SchrodingersImmigrant · 25/09/2020 12:34

@bookmum08

Florence the OP said she wanted to work with animals. Volunteering at charity run animal places is a good way to START. It could lead on to a job.
Actually I think it's children now
DillonPanthersTexas · 25/09/2020 12:34

bookmum08

There is nothing wrong with volunteering your time to worthy causes or hobbies. It should not however be at the expense of an actual day job that, you know, helps pay the bills and stuff. Everything you have suggested is on the proviso that someone else picks up the financial burden that allows you to work for free. Don't you think that is a tad unfair? A bit entitled? A bit selfish?

And yes I do know what it is like to volunteer. For years I have spent about 10-15 hours a week coaching and running my local sports club. It is very rewarding and a big part of my life. I do not however expect my wife to take on the lions share of the financial burden so I can do this, so I work full time and fit my volunteer work around it during evenings and weekends.

bookmum08 · 25/09/2020 12:36

I am leaving this thread now because quite frankly you have made me feel worthless in my life and that I don't contribute to society in anyway because I don't 'bring in a wage'.
Charming. I hope you are all happy.
OP I hope you find your way (and maybe a nicer boyfriend). Good luck.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 25/09/2020 12:36

@bookmum08

And shall we all just let abandoned and abused animals just die on the streets shall we?
Maybe we should teach people not to abandon animals 😱
BuzybB33 · 25/09/2020 12:37

I've worked somewhere that I hated

I moved jobs quickly

SchrodingersImmigrant · 25/09/2020 12:37

@bookmum08

I am leaving this thread now because quite frankly you have made me feel worthless in my life and that I don't contribute to society in anyway because I don't 'bring in a wage'. Charming. I hope you are all happy. OP I hope you find your way (and maybe a nicer boyfriend). Good luck.
The only person who is saying anything like that is you though. I hope you get to better place soon.
bookmum08 · 25/09/2020 12:41

One last comment.... not all animals that need help are actually abandoned. Some are wild - like foxes. So shall we just leave some crying baby foxes at the side of the road to die because their mum just got killed by a car. We could I suppose. They are just wild animals. Of course you might have to explain to your children why there is a dead fox cub decomposing on the path to school....
Ok. Bye everyone. Enjoy your precious wages. Cos that is all that's important in life isn't it....

MoreToExplore · 25/09/2020 12:42

he shouldn't be insisting you must have a full time career. He should be supporting you in what you choose to do. So if that is working part time in something that is 'just a job' (but being happy there)...

Gobsmacked. Working full-time is the default position for any adult in society. The OP has not mentioned any health issues or dependents. Why exactly should her boyfriend encourage her to go out and have fun whilst he works?

bookmum08 · 25/09/2020 12:43

And don't worry. I am in a better place. It's called having a supportive husband and family.

DillonPanthersTexas · 25/09/2020 12:43

And shall we all just let abandoned and abused animals just die on the streets shall we?

Jesus weptGrin

Are you for real?

"Hi sweetheart, I have decided to volunteer full time with the local animal shelter, there is no guarantee that it might lead to a paid part time work let alone a full time position but life is not all about careers and ambition and I just need to focus on myself for a bit until I work out what I want in this world. You don't mind taking on 100% of the financial burden do you as it is your responsibility to look after emotional and financial needs after all?"

"Erm..... Hang on a minute"

thesecangettofuck · 25/09/2020 12:44

ShockConfused bit of a tangent there....

SchrodingersImmigrant · 25/09/2020 12:44

@bookmum08

And don't worry. I am in a better place. It's called having a supportive husband and family.
Your overreacting begs to differ
Havaiana · 25/09/2020 12:45

Ok think it’s been over egged now. 😂

Cocomarine · 25/09/2020 12:46

There are loads of dead wild animals decomposing by the side of the road, and - heavens! - my children have seen them.

Still - useful idea for OP who wants to work with animals: council road sweeper. (OP: pension will be good)

@bookmum08 you’re just being silly now!

BuzybB33 · 25/09/2020 12:47

One of my previous managers interviewed for jobs in his department

He would ask a variety of questions

One question was "where do you see yourself in 5,10 years time ?"

He never employed anyone who couldn't answer this question

DillonPanthersTexas · 25/09/2020 12:47

Of course you might have to explain to your children why there is a dead fox cub decomposing on the path to school...

"why is there a dead fox on the side of the road daddy?"

"I imagine it got clipped by a car"

"oh okay, can we play lego this evening?"

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