To strongly dislike Nicola Sturgeon right now?

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Here to rant that Nicola has gone one step further and banned meeting in homes. She always feels the need to one-up Bojo, and hasn’t even given the rule of 6 she introduced last week a chance to see if it’s working.
Interested to know what the English think - do you think she’s taken it too far, or Bojo hasn’t taken it far enough?!

Seems like such a disparity that in England you can meet with 6 other households indoors and here none 🤯😡🤬😭😭

@StoneofDestiny

Yes - to choose to call a woman by her husbands name that she has chosen not to use is just another dig at a strong, independent woman by someone who can't handle the fact that such women exist. Pathetic.

Agree with this, irrespective of whether I like a politician or not they are entitled to their own name.

It's not just her. This is exactly how it went in England the first time. Each day brought stricter measures without them giving them enough time to see if they worked. This is what first made me feel it's about keeping us herded like sheep rather thsn controlling the virus. Lockstep.

Boris Johnson will wait until we all have black crosses on the doors and then he will bring in that rule too.

I think it's terrible the way she is not allowing the students to even see their parents, first years away from home the first time. It's like a police state. The SNP scare me. I'm Scottish but glad to be in England, now.

'think it's terrible the way she is not allowing the students to even see their parents, first years away from home the first time. It's like a police state.'

Surely the mh of students should also be a priority. They should allow them home but advise to stay away from vulnerable and elderly relatives.

Do they need to advise to stay away from vulnerable and elderly Relativs? Can't they use their own noddles and stay away from their "virus shedding" grandchildren? Why is the onus on teenagers? A few may live with grandparents but the vast majority will not.

relatives not Relativs!

'Do they need to advise to stay away from vulnerable and elderly Relativs? Can't they use their own noddles and stay away from their "virus shedding" grandchildren?'

6 months in and people seem to still need telling everything. Yes of course grandparents can stay away the onus isn't on teenagers . I just think enforcing quarantine in uni if not positive seems excessive.

I think it's terrible the way she is not allowing the students to even see their parents, first years away from home the first time. It's like a police state. The SNP scare me. I'm Scottish but glad to be in England, now

What???
Crikey - if young people are capable of leaving home to go to University, they should be capable of not seeing their parents in the flesh! Try phones, Skype etc - your average Uni person copes totally all right unless there is something really wrong

'What??? Crikey - if young people are capable of leaving home to go to University, they should be capable of not seeing their parents in the flesh! Try phones, Skype etc - your average Uni person copes totally all right unless there is something really wrong'

It's weird. Johnson shuts the pubs at 10pm and there's thread after thread of people moaning about a dictatorship and 'civil liberties!!' Here we have #ThankyouNicola enforcing quarantine on people who haven't even got symptoms yet all the nats cheerleaders give her a round of applause.

Your last sentence is the relevant bit. Many students do in fact struggle. Stop being so narrow minded.

Honestly you’d think the students were 5 yr olds the way folk are carrying on!
They are at least 17/18 and made the choice to live away, they should be mature enough to accept avoiding the pub and they are now a separate household. No wonder they grow up useless with parents handwringing and mollycoddling them. It’s this weekend they’ve been asked to stay in to real the chain of infection it forever.

Nicola is saying the students are a 'different household' from their parents so therefore can't see them.

Obviously they’re a separate household, they are now living elsewhere and with other ppl and seem to have flung SD out the window hence the huge spike in cases. I agree they should stay in for the weekend, they’ll survive and it’ll hopefully contain transmission.

@Orangeblossom7777

Nicola is saying the students are a 'different household' from their parents so therefore can't see them.

This is logical although undoubtedly difficult/undesirable, they have to belong to one household or the other (either home or uni) in terms of the measures.

I was trying to explain to my parents that rushing to see my nephews when they return from uni at Christmas may not be wise. They didn't seem convinced.

But I understand entirely the worries in government(s) at the moment, and about Christmas.

It is already feeling like things are spiralling.

The testing required by students will be huge - and it simply isn't there.

@Orangeblossom7777

I think it's terrible the way she is not allowing the students to even see their parents, first years away from home the first time. It's like a police state. The SNP scare me. I'm Scottish but glad to be in England, now.

All this moaning would you prefer a full lockdown? Personally I think it’s easier by far because at least there would be one set rule and that’s the end and less confusion

Nothing is the same now and Christmas won’t be think of the nurses that will be working and all the other staff. It’s tough for students but they will have to team up with their housemates if they have them.

I don’t remember anyone going home to visit their parents in the first few weeks and months of university - I can’t see this as a huge issue. Christmas stuck in halls would be a bit shit though. Hopefully things will move on by then.

Can't see how things would be better around Christmas than they are now, though.

I don’t remember anyone going home to visit their parents in the first few weeks and months of university neither do I - and none of my neighbours kids did either.
If they are that delicate as a young adult they surely would choose to live at home.

@Orangeblossom7777

Nicola is saying the students are a 'different household' from their parents so therefore can't see them.

Well that would be right then. They arent living at home. They are living in a flat. My sons all have their own flat. They arent part of my household. I wonder if its different though if a parent lives on their own? Then maybe!

'Honestly you’d think the students were 5 yr olds the way folk are carrying on! They are at least 17/18 and made the choice to live away'

Yes yes we know that. It is like saying the general population has all 'made our choices' to live in separate households, but that doesnt stop some mumsnetters being outraged that Johnson restricts numbers of groups meeting to 6. The rule of 6! remember? It was hysterics at dawn last week. Yet ThankyouNicola locks down whole universities and everyone's like nodding dogs. Anyone would think some Scottish people were a bit hypocritical.

I think what gets me is the fact that they were welcoming the students to live on campus but in reality they would have been better staying at home because of the situation. So they paid all this money just to be sat in student accomodation. I feel they have been conned for the money.

I agree with what i read in the news. They should have done their course online and maybe looked at the accomodation later on.

Was there actually any need for student accomodation unless from overseas?

It has been mis-managed.

Thank you @4Orangeblossom7777 for explaining the rationale behind students not being allowed home. I didn't understand but your explanation makes complete sense. Good job Nicola.