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To tell all the black mumsnetters we now have our own forum

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Marg33t · 16/09/2020 13:40

Thanks to the fab PatricksRum for fighting against racism we've got our own board here

Look for black mumsnetters 👍🏿

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PatricksRum · 18/09/2020 11:58

@Venicelover

It was definitely said that anyone other than those who were black would not be welcome on the board. It was not said just once, but several times over the thread in posts that have been deleted.

Unless that is acknowledged, the issue will not go away or be moved past by many posters.

I can see from the board (which is now up and running) that is not now the case, which is great, but that was the original intention of PR.

HQ could you please check the few posts of mine that you deleted on the original campaigning threads to see if I said that only black people were welcome please?
Venicelover · 18/09/2020 12:56

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AMemeByAnyOtherName · 18/09/2020 13:15

Venice, you're one of the few posters who is perpetuating negative views and making people believe that MN is inherently racist. It's awful and I've asked you on previous threads to stop, because you're causing hurt and upset. You told me you wouldn't stop because it's an open forum. Those posts haven't been deleted, so there's no dispute over that. And true to your word, you're not stopping. You yourself may not be embarrassed by your behaviour, but you're embarrassing other people who are trying to be supportive, and even those that don't care about the new board but simply don't want to be tarred with the same brush as you. At the very least I want you to know that. I'm not going to ask you to stop any more because it's a waste of time and thread space. There is enough evidence to show that you are lying about what Patricks said, so I'm not going to engage with you any more.

Ori82 · 18/09/2020 13:22

Cats come in different colours like people.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

Venicelover · 18/09/2020 13:23

And that is your prerogative. I was simply supporting those who were being told they were lying when they were not. That is my prerogative.

Contrary to what you are suggesting, I have no other agenda. I am more than happy for the section to exist and I hope it prospers.

EchoCardioGran · 18/09/2020 13:34

@Ori82

Cats come in different colours like people.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

Cats, and their human staff, already have their own board. It's a lovely place to lurk.

Hope you find that helpful.Smile

southeastdweller · 18/09/2020 13:43

So much aggression here from the pro board people!

AMemeByAnyOtherName · 18/09/2020 13:53

It's confuses me that some people think the word 'support' is intrinsically good. Supporting other people who are deliberately coming to cause trouble for black people is not a good thing to do. It's supporting racism.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 18/09/2020 13:58

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Venicelover · 18/09/2020 14:11

@AMemeByAnyOtherName

It's confuses me that some people think the word 'support' is intrinsically good. Supporting other people who are deliberately coming to cause trouble for black people is not a good thing to do. It's supporting racism.
That is your interpretation of it, it isn't necessarily a true representation of why they have posted.

Maybe they simply want the truth to be told? It cannot be proven with screenshots of posts as they were clearly reported (not by me) and they no longer exist.

Anybody making that kind of comment on here is being shouted down and bullied into submission. I am supporting those people. I am not easily bullied or cowed.

If you don't approve of that stance then do as you indicated you would previously and scroll by.

Ori82 · 18/09/2020 14:30

Parrots also come in different colours but they presumably sit in the same trees?

PurpleHoodie · 18/09/2020 14:50

Forgot to actually say:

Marg33t YANBU.

Quaagars · 18/09/2020 14:51

@Ori82

Have you tried the Litter Tray? (Another board on here)

CaraDuneRedux · 18/09/2020 14:54

Popping back in to help you fill up the thread and leave less room for people to be nasty - well done Patrick for getting this board set up, hope everyone finds it really useful, and here's hoping this thread grinds to a halt (it's certainly been useful for working out which MN-ers to cross off the virtual Christmas card list - some people have revealed themselves to be out-and-out tossers).

Flowers for the new board.

AMemeByAnyOtherName · 18/09/2020 14:59

@Ori82 I've heard that large orange and black striped jungle cats get on very well with domestic moggies.

EchoCardioGran · 18/09/2020 17:38

@Ori82

Parrots also come in different colours but they presumably sit in the same trees?
Yes, I agree. Parrots do like to repeat the same things over and over in the same tree.

The chickens however, previously asked MN if they could sometimes roost on their own board.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/chicken_keepers

Hope this helps clarify matters from the avian perspective. Wink

AMemeByAnyOtherName · 18/09/2020 18:50

@EchoCardioGran GrinGrinGrin

Newmumatlast · 18/09/2020 21:59

@DoubleDolphin

"I see no difference between this and groups for SAHMs, home schoolers, ex pat's etc"

I guess for me, the difference is that we are not told we cant go on these threads, whereas we are being told if you are not black, you cant go on the black only forum.

But why would you want to if it isn't for you?
Newmumatlast · 18/09/2020 22:06

@IheartJKR

This thread is really upsetting. What should have been a cause for celebration has been turned into an expectation to justify. It’s like the men coming on the feminist board asking what about us? Whatabouttery at its finest. Why do some people think they get to police other people’s space. If you’re not black, a black board has got fuck all to do with you. There are plenty of other spaces on this board and elsewhere and if you want to start your own thread about inclusive spaces, go do it. Congratulations 🥳 I hope this space created by yourselves goes on to provide you all a source of comfort and a place to share information and experiences. Flowers
Here here!
Ablackrussian · 18/09/2020 22:19

Why are some people so weird and fucking creepy?!

Ablackrussian · 18/09/2020 22:22

What should have been a cause for celebration..

It's still a cause for celebration...let's not lose sight of that Flowers

Ablackrussian · 18/09/2020 22:32

46 % think that black mumsnetters shouldn't have a section talking about black issues.

We can talk about Irish issues, Scottish issues, animal issues, single parent issues, trans issues, multicultural issues, marriage issues, sex issues, disability issues, Brexit issues, climate change issues, religious issues, fertility issues, relationship issues, parental issues, children's issues, employment issues, dating issues...but not the issues that many black people are looking for advice on.

What are you so afraid of? Hmm

CaraDuneRedux · 18/09/2020 22:35

46 % think that black mumsnetters shouldn't have a section talking about black issues.

It's bloody awful and possibly the most depressing thing I've stumbled upon on here - that there are so many people who vary from downright insensitive all the way through to full-on racist, who would like to shit on a group of black women saying "you know what, along with Scotsnet and Craicnet and the litter tray and woolly hugs and telly addicts and Brexit and covid... we'd like a little corner to discuss the stuff that affects our lives."

Anyway, the good news is the new section is there, whether the bastards like it or not!

Quaagars · 18/09/2020 22:56

What are you so afraid of?

Asked the very same question myself on here the other day - it baffles me!
Just as much right to have a voice as everyone else.

Quaagars · 18/09/2020 22:57

Anyway, the good news is the new section is there, whether the bastards like it or not!

Exactly and that deserves a big hurrah