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To tell all the black mumsnetters we now have our own forum

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Marg33t · 16/09/2020 13:40

Thanks to the fab PatricksRum for fighting against racism we've got our own board here

Look for black mumsnetters 👍🏿

OP posts:
Quaagars · 17/09/2020 11:04

What I have an issue with is you criticising some white posters for expressing a positive view while upholding your own right as a white person to express a negative view. That’s pretty hypocritical

Very good point

AMemeByAnyOtherName · 17/09/2020 11:05

@PatricksRum kmt is the kindest route to go down, because if we start giving 'the look' people will start crying and shaking Grin

AuntyPasta · 17/09/2020 11:10

The ‘See All’ (posts by a particular poster on this thread) function is quite illuminating if you use it on this thread.

AMemeByAnyOtherName · 17/09/2020 11:12

Funny how nobody can find the posts that say that white people aren't welcome. Or that white parents of mixed children can't post. They read the whole thread to find the comments, I assume. And yet they miss the posts that say that white people CAN contribute if they want to, that they're welcome to lurk, and that white parents of mixed children ARE welcome. Those posts haven't been deleted. And I personally answered some of them.

Forget about blaming the Swiss cheese boards caused by incessant racist trolls and take a look at what's actually there, available for all to see. Then kindly stop lying. It's weird and creepy.

Anyway, I need to go and plan to take over the world.

PatricksRum · 17/09/2020 11:14

[quote AMemeByAnyOtherName]@PatricksRum kmt is the kindest route to go down, because if we start giving 'the look' people will start crying and shaking Grin[/quote]
What's that word again?

Hm

Blood cloth Grin

PurpleHoodie · 17/09/2020 11:15

Do you have a cape AMemeBy?

PurpleHoodie · 17/09/2020 11:15

Forget about blaming the Swiss cheese boardscaused by incessant racist trollsand take a look at what's actually there, available for all to see. Then kindly stop lying. It's weird and creepy.

This.

theotherfossilsister · 17/09/2020 11:19

Wait? People objected? Sorry I missed this all. People can suck. I am white and don't understand why anyone would have a problem with this. So glad you have it and sorry that people made you fight for it.

Enjoy your space xx

Emeraldshamrock · 17/09/2020 11:24

Congratulations. Well done organising your new board. Flowers

AMemeByAnyOtherName · 17/09/2020 11:24

@PurpleHoodie heavens, no! Edna Mode said NO CAPES!!

OhReallyThen · 17/09/2020 11:25

@PatricksRum

*Yeah.

When you start your OWN thread perhaps they will.*

FGS how many times. It wasn't until halfway through this thread that I was aware that starting our own threads were necessary to garner the attention of @MNHQ. Hmm

Logically you would think tagging them repeatedly and reporting our posts to them would get their attention. Not everyone has the time to start a campaign for a section. I applaud you for what you did. I'm very glad you have your own section. But I'm allowed to be disappointed that it takes minorities (including black people) long campaigns and fights and dealing with lots of racists to get their own dedicated sections and safe spaces rather than @MNHQ having the intelligence and sensibility to to address it after requests by multiple posters.

WaxOnFeckOff · 17/09/2020 11:25

A section where black people can discuss stuff specific to them/their culture or just cos they want to hang out together - perfectly cool

A section where white people with something relevant to proffer are not welcome - not cool

A section to coral all black mumsnetters together and not allow them to contribute to other threads- really really not cool

My understanding is that we are talking about the first option here.

PatricksRum · 17/09/2020 11:27

[quote OhReallyThen]@PatricksRum

*Yeah.

When you start your OWN thread perhaps they will.*

FGS how many times. It wasn't until halfway through this thread that I was aware that starting our own threads were necessary to garner the attention of @MNHQ. Hmm

Logically you would think tagging them repeatedly and reporting our posts to them would get their attention. Not everyone has the time to start a campaign for a section. I applaud you for what you did. I'm very glad you have your own section. But I'm allowed to be disappointed that it takes minorities (including black people) long campaigns and fights and dealing with lots of racists to get their own dedicated sections and safe spaces rather than @MNHQ having the intelligence and sensibility to to address it after requests by multiple posters. [/quote]
It's not that it's necessary.

It's respectful.

This is a thread about our board, black mumsnetters. No one should come on and flip it to make it about them. It's disrespectful.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 17/09/2020 11:29

Apologies didnt realise it was open to all anyway. Someone was saying up thread the point of it was a space where they wouldnt be shouted down by white posters so from that I thought the vibe was non black would not be welcome.

WorraLiberty · 17/09/2020 11:30

I don't get why this row is still going on, unless people are just bored and happy to provoke each other/keep the 'race row' alive by keeping it going round and round in circles?

The new board is up and running and here to stay - FACT.

The only purpose this thread appears to be serving right now, is as a platform for people to keep goading one another.

EchoCardioGran · 17/09/2020 11:31

@WaxOnFeckOff

A section where black people can discuss stuff specific to them/their culture or just cos they want to hang out together - perfectly cool

A section where white people with something relevant to proffer are not welcome - not cool

A section to coral all black mumsnetters together and not allow them to contribute to other threads- really really not cool

My understanding is that we are talking about the first option here.

Thank you. But then I've always thought you talked a lot of sense on this forum, so maybe I'm biased. Flowers
PurpleHoodie · 17/09/2020 11:31

AMemeBy

Correct answer . Hahahaha.

PatricksRum · 17/09/2020 11:33

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland

Apologies didnt realise it was open to all anyway. Someone was saying up thread the point of it was a space where they wouldnt be shouted down by white posters so from that I thought the vibe was non black would not be welcome.
Not at all.

We have @Quaagars to prove that Grin

EchoCardioGran · 17/09/2020 11:33

And Worral also.

Sense as always.Flowers

OhReallyThen · 17/09/2020 11:33

@AMemeByAnyOtherName

I encourage and support any other demographic to request their own talking space from MN. It may sound dismissive, but it's not. It's just become apparent to me since discussing the new black area, that it truly does need to be asked for before it can happen.

If you checked on Monday and suddenly saw 'AsianNet' or 'JewNet', I really don't think you'd be impressed. I sincerely think that MNHQ needs input from the appropriate demographics in order to proceed with these requests. Agreeing and proceeding to create a space for black users at their request doesn't mean they're qualified to decide what other people want or need.

Please, honestly, from the bottom of my heart, ask MNHQ. I've had so much fun today talking to people about niche things that I never get to talk about. Everybody deserves the same, it's a good feeling. Please ask. Site Stuff would be easier to ask through, because more users can discuss their opinions with each other than people can in multiple separate email chains to MNHQ.

Also, thanks again Patricks. Today has been a good day Thanks

Thank you.

Many of us have been asking. We just weren't aware that we had to ask through site stuff so have been doing it in other sections or in commenting on threads. It's just a shame we have to ask in a way that will incite lots of racism and hatred on a thread rather than MN having the good sense to perhaps create their own thread asking what other minority sections would be liked and useful.

I for one will be starting a thread in afew days to ask for an Indian mumsnetters section. I would do it right now but I have a big deadline in a few days and don't have the time or mental energy to deal with all the racists who will come along and call it segregation/reverse racism/bring up the famine ect because by looking at this thread it's pretty clear they will.

I'm very glad the black mnetters sections is going well and you have enjoyed yourself today with it. I really wish it well and congratulate you on winning the fight against the racists for this safe space - you deserve it and i hope it flourishes.

PurpleHoodie · 17/09/2020 11:34

Echo That's correct if the first lot of threads there are anything to go by.

PurpleHoodie · 17/09/2020 11:35

OhReally I'd definitely support an Indian Mumsnetters section.

Venicelover · 17/09/2020 11:38

I don't see a problem with anybody having their 'own' threads if that is really what they want. It saddens me in some ways, as it seems to me to be a retrograde step, but in others, I can see the point.

As long as every thread on MN is inclusive and non-racist there shouldn't be an issue.

OhReallyThen · 17/09/2020 11:39

*It's not that it's necessary.

It's respectful.

This is a thread about our board, black mumsnetters. No one should come on and flip it to make it about them. It's disrespectful.*

It's a thread in AIBU talking about a minority group board. It makes sense as a place to draw attention to @MNHQ that the new board is fantastic and other minorities would also like to be considered for one. Especially as so many other posters have seen my post and agreed. It makes sense that other minorities would come here to see how you did it successfully so we can do the same. You've paved the way.

I have posted tons of other comments on this thread praising the new board and defending it to idiots calling it segregation. I fully respect your board. Maybe you could have a little bit of respect for other women who experience horrific racism celebrations your success and looking to emulate it rather than being just another person to tell us 'this isn't your place'. I haven't gone and posted this on the new black mnetters board, this is a thread about getting a new board, that's what I was referring to.

I wish you well with your new board and really hope you can have some sympathy and support when the fight starts for our ones.

Words · 17/09/2020 11:42

Hi PR

It's great you have your new board, well done!

However, please don't deny that you said at one point early on the first thread, I think, that white, mixed or other ethnicities would not be welcome. I read it with my own eyes and recall how surprised I was.

I doubt Mumsnet would have countenanced that anyway, which is fine, so I am sure it won't be moderated in that way.