To ask what you think about a British government openly declaring that it will break international law?

[Pepperwort]

This is regarding Johnson’s government’s new stated dislike of the Withdrawal agreement, which Johnson turfed May out over, negotiated, and signed.

For those not watching the news (living under rocks as it’s the top headline), the new Internal Market Bill they are presenting has a clause to the effect that any international law or court can be ignored at will. There are severe repercussions for the GFA and NI. The government have openly confirmed they will break the Withdrawal Agreement and any international law they don’t like. The EU has of course objected, and Gove has confirmed the government does not care. Not only could this scupper talks with the EU, but with the US, who have always been broadly supportive of Northern Ireland. It damages our international reputation in general and risks us being seen as a rogue state. This is beyond political posturing, just as it is beyond the old remain/ leave arguments, because we have already left. A former Tory leader and lord has spoken against it.

For voting, let’s say it’s aimed at the government. So YABU - Britain should not start its independent existence as a sovereign state by breaking laws. YANBU - go ahead, international laws are there for the breaking.

Listening I think very many 80s students got up to all sorts of things, but those with wealth and privilege had different boundaries.

@ListeningQuietly

As the saying goes "what happens in Vegas (or other location of choice) stays in Vegas!"

Have a glass of chilled Chapel Down as need to support local with WTO Brexshit and Covid depression as it's soon Champagne taste but lemonade money possibly unless the Government gets a grip!

I think very many 80s students got up to all sorts of things, but those with wealth and privilege had different boundaries.
THIS
Sitting and thinking back to some of what we did (NO WAY can I type lots of) the crass entitlement was surreal
they knew they could buy their way out of ANYTHING

and what is scary is that when I go back through who was at school with my "gang"
its about 2/3 of the current cabinet
I've grown out of it (as have the other girls in the gang)
some of the boys still have not

neither have the cabinet

Have a glass of chilled Chapel Down as need to support local with WTO Brexshit and Covid depression as it's soon Champagne taste but lemonade money possibly unless the Government gets a grip!

I’ll stick to Crémante for now. That’s champagne for lemonade money.

Cremant de Bourgogne - great for spraying over people

But lets be honest we'll be back on the Babycham and Angel delight next year

@tantamountto

Cummings appears to be destroying the UK deliberately. Deliberately wrecking all relations with the EU, and putting a trade deal with the US at serious risk. So what's in it for him?

He’s doing it because he can. The man’s a psychopath.

jasjas1973

We don't know who threw the potted plant - it doesn't say - no doubt students do silly things.

Is this acceptable to you?

2018 - "Green party member Molly Scott Cato (55) is one of three MEPs taken into custody after breaking into a Belgian military airbase to protest against its stockpiling of American B61 nuclear bombs."

"They scaled the perimeter fence and blocked the runway...the MEPs are currently being held in a local police station."

www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/17445935.molly-scott-cato-arrested-belgium-military-airbase/

SabrinaThwaite
Please do explain.

Many areas in the UK were eligible for EU funding for specific projects. One example I can remember - the residents of Blaenau Gwent (Wales) complained that thousands of pounds of EU funding had been awarded for town centre 'artwork' - a statue. While the statue was being built, the town's public toilets were closed due to lack of funding; one resident wrote to the council to ask if they could have an 'artistic toilet' instead. Not only that, unemployment in the town was also very high despite apparent EU funding - therefore the residents could not see the benefit (for them) of being in the EU - the promise of better targeted funding after Brexit appealed to them. Similarly, towns in the North East with high unemployment were not seeing particular benefits of EU membership for them.

chomalungma
So you'll agree that Brexit has NOTHING to do with investment in Grimsby then.

No, I don't - I think Grimsby are being rewarded for their Brexit vote.

@Clavinova

I specifically asked you what HLF projects had to do with Brexit?

@ Clavinova Of course, if you think that specific areas are being rewarded for their Brexit vote, then I will feel justified in asking HLF for its reasoning in allocating finds to Grimsby?

*funds

@ListeningQuietly

Cremant de Bourgogne - great for spraying over people

But lets be honest we'll be back on the Babycham and Angel delight next year

Try Hunter's MiruMiru Reserve 2010 Marlborough as worth the journey with all those eco unfriendly Kiwi food miles. I think Berry Bros & Rudd's Warehouse Shop in Basingstoke may carry it. Can't do trips to St James's any more as wine tastings and all corporate events are kept off radar and off record these days (even if they are possibly open). Champagne spraying is so Marbella in my book. Save water drink Champagne if funds allow!

The real villain in this is Suella Braverman who has brought shame on the legal profession and should be removed from her post immediately.

Try Hunter's MiruMiru Reserve 2010 Marlborough

Not very British though. I’d rather go for a classic Nyetimber.

I specifically asked you what HLF projects had to do with Brexit?

Specifically to Grimsby - probably the knock-on effect of other successful bids/regeneration in the area; "It seems that every month we have good news about the delivery of the regeneration project."
Also, the land owner is Associated British Ports;
"Don't Panic: If there are delays at Dover after leaving the Customs Union, other ports are available" …

"Also, the land owner is Associated British Ports"
They backed the project as well.

@Clavinova OK, so you can’t actually make a link between Brexit and HLF then. Other than in your Brexitty fantasy world.

I’m sure ABP will back bringing a derelict building on its land back into use if it doesn’t have to pay into the regeneration.

Still not getting why this is a Brexit bonus?

"tantamountto
Cummings appears to be destroying the UK deliberately. Deliberately wrecking all relations with the EU, and putting a trade deal with the US at serious risk. So what's in it for him?"
He’s doing it because he can. The man’s a psychopath.

He's doing it because he's been told to. The man's a puppet.

Dundee got £14 million from the HLF to go towards developing the V&A. Probably all part of the wider city regeneration. But nothing to do with Brexit, what with Dundee not being very Brexitty.

Whose puppet?

OK, so you can’t actually make a link between Brexit and HLF then. Other than in your Brexitty fantasy world.

I have made several links specifically for Grimsby.

I think its shocking. But the fact that many people are not shocked at all - or not even noticing ... well that is all the more shocking and concerning.

Dundee got £14 million from the HLF to go towards developing the V&A

Dundee is apparently Scotland's 4th largest city - Grimsby is...

@Clavinova

OK, so you can’t actually make a link between Brexit and HLF then. Other than in your Brexitty fantasy world.

I have made several links specifically for Grimsby.

There is no link between Grimsby being awarded HLF and the fact that it voted Brexit. HLF would have been awarded if Grimsby had been a Remain voting town, because local politics has nothing to do with whether a project meets funding criteria.

"Other ports are available". Certainly are. And, as denied by Clavinova last year, bringing a lorry stack to your doorstep as an introduction to Independence. Happy new year.