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Jesica Krug - white Jewish Woman pretended to be black.

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SentientAndCognisant · 04/09/2020 08:30

Ms Krug, a Jewish woman form Kansa purported to be a Black woman and was a Professor of AfricanAmerica Hostory at George Washington University . Teaching classes and supervision grad and undergrad students in African American History

She was also an activist who posted and participated in rallies and events as Jessica La Bombalera. Demonstrating against the gentrification of East Harlem, proclaiming it to be her neighbourhood

Essentially she has gaslight,lied and assumed an identity that is not hers. In doing so,other candidates were denied opportunities,remuneration. She has assumed an identity and heritage that was not hers to assume

Exposed by a student who had the courage to confide in other teaching staff

OP posts:
Sexnotgender · 06/09/2020 12:35

@Onestepup

No-one is being 'anti trans' here. Pro women's rights, yes absolutely. Anti self-ID, yes.
Absolutely.
Sexnotgender · 06/09/2020 12:36

@Wannakisstheteacher

So hang on. I've seen comments about how she didn't even look black. We'll tbh vanishingly small numbers of Transwomen ever look anything other than Transwomen. Either it is all about how you feel, and therefore it doesn't matter if you are clearly not black, because you feel black. Or we are saying you cannot be black because you don't look black. But then why aren't we saying a person with a penis isn't a woman because a woman doest have a penis? Why are we being over backwards to pretend we can't see the difference between a Transwomen and a woman, but not with ethnicity?
You’ve made the classic mistake of trying to apply logic to the situation.

Just make stuff up and yell bigot at anyone who disagrees with you.

Aridane · 06/09/2020 14:03

Just make stuff up and yell bigot at anyone who disagrees with you.

Er - line you were a few posts ago in your now deleted post? Pot. Kettle. Black.

Sexnotgender · 06/09/2020 14:28

@Aridane

Just make stuff up and yell bigot at anyone who disagrees with you.

Er - line you were a few posts ago in your now deleted post? Pot. Kettle. Black.

I was clearly being facetious 😂 wow...
Grannyspecsandslippers · 06/09/2020 14:33

‘I've seen comments about how she didn't even look black’

Perhaps that because many mixed race or dual heritage people don’t ‘look’ the way some expect them to?
I get told all the time that I don’t ‘look’ gay. I usually answer I do look gay, I am gay and this is the way some if look...

Sexnotgender · 06/09/2020 14:41

Actually laughing out loud that you had my post deleted 😂😂

Aridane · 06/09/2020 14:43

Er, I didn’t. but please, carry on with your facetiousness

Bambooshoot · 06/09/2020 14:45

@Whatisthisfuckery

If it’s fine for a man to say he’s a woman then it’s fine for a white woman to say she’s black. We can’t have it both ways. Either claiming to be a member of an oppressed group to which you do not belong is acceptable or it isn’t.
Absolutely this, 100 times over.
Aridane · 06/09/2020 14:50

Is it acceptable for a member of a minority to pass themselves off as white (or whatever the predominant power base is)?

StealthPolarBear · 06/09/2020 14:51

Is it acceptable for a man to say he's a woman? And expect to be treated like one in every way?

Grannyspecsandslippers · 06/09/2020 14:53

‘Is it acceptable for a member of a minority to pass themselves off as white (or whatever the predominant power base is)?’

I think it’s always awful when anyone feels like they have to pass themselves off as something else rather than be their actual self. Many, many people in the LGBT community have had to do this for their own safety or to stop being discriminated against.

SheepandCow · 06/09/2020 15:09

@Grannyspecsandslippers

Someone could come on here asking for a Victoria sponge cake recipe tip and I swear it would be hijacked by anti trans posters....
What happens if someone identifies as a Victoria sponge cake?
Aridane · 06/09/2020 16:21

They would be eaten alive Blush !

ListeningQuietly · 06/09/2020 16:46

If Trudeau could self identify as a woman on a night out
why the stress when he self identifies as black on a night out
as there is a chance that he's 1/64 black
but zero chance that he's 1/64 female

oh, silly me

StealthPolarBear · 06/09/2020 18:54

Do people really not see the parallels?
Or is it just that transgender has some very influential supporters and people know they have to say the right things? Whereas transethnicity doesn't.

StealthPolarBear · 06/09/2020 18:55

I may have missed it but I've still not seen anyone explain how it's different.

StealthPolarBear · 06/09/2020 18:56

As a pp said, if I discovered I had a black great-great-grandparent I'd be amazed because I look as white as they come, but it's not beyond possibiliy. If I discover I'm really a man, I'll know I'm losing my marbles because I am a woman.

Sexnotgender · 06/09/2020 19:00

@StealthPolarBear

I may have missed it but I've still not seen anyone explain how it's different.
They haven’t. They’ve totally ignored any relevant questions, I’m guessing they know if they attempt to answer it’ll expose the illogical nonsense of the ideology.
Grannyspecsandslippers · 06/09/2020 19:36

theprint.in/world/i-am-a-cultural-leech-white-us-professor-jessica-krug-apologises-for-pretending-to-be-black-for-years/495602/

I do think that she should donate any royalties from her book to charity - however paltry the sum she made off it. Her platform as a professor and WOC would have legitimised her work and helped sales. Hope the publishers pull it asap.

NotBadConsidering · 06/09/2020 21:07

@StealthPolarBear

Do people really not see the parallels? Or is it just that transgender has some very influential supporters and people know they have to say the right things? Whereas transethnicity doesn't.
Of course they see the parallels. But it’s easier to throw around slurs, ignore questions, and pretend there aren’t any parallels because to get drawn into a discussion around it would only highlight the argument built on sand. Anyone casually reading the thread though will see how obvious it is.
Wannakisstheteacher · 07/09/2020 09:59

It is just that woman who pretend to be black are evil and delusional. Whereas biological men, who have male genitals, look like men and speak like men are utterly accepted in all women only spaces and are pandered to by the vast majority of society. Saying you are black does not make you black, but painting your nails and wearing a dress doesn't make you a woman either.

jellyfrizz · 07/09/2020 11:47

@Aridane

They would be eaten alive Blush !
Grin
Grannyspecsandslippers · 07/09/2020 16:23

‘ They haven’t. They’ve totally ignored any relevant questions, I’m guessing they know if they attempt to answer it’ll expose the illogical nonsense of the ideology.’

Perhaps posters who come on to discuss a topic or an AIBU are tired of the anti- trans Lobby jumping on to start ranting about trans people and don’t want to engage with them? Just a suggestion.

Sexnotgender · 07/09/2020 16:32

Another non answer. How massively surprising...

Grannyspecsandslippers · 07/09/2020 16:39

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