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Jesica Krug - white Jewish Woman pretended to be black.

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SentientAndCognisant · 04/09/2020 08:30

Ms Krug, a Jewish woman form Kansa purported to be a Black woman and was a Professor of AfricanAmerica Hostory at George Washington University . Teaching classes and supervision grad and undergrad students in African American History

She was also an activist who posted and participated in rallies and events as Jessica La Bombalera. Demonstrating against the gentrification of East Harlem, proclaiming it to be her neighbourhood

Essentially she has gaslight,lied and assumed an identity that is not hers. In doing so,other candidates were denied opportunities,remuneration. She has assumed an identity and heritage that was not hers to assume

Exposed by a student who had the courage to confide in other teaching staff

OP posts:
ListeningQuietly · 05/09/2020 18:00

Women on the stage ....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travesti_(theatre)

Grannyspecsandslippers · 05/09/2020 18:04

‘ Drag acts are offensive to women ’

I’m not remotely offended by drag, I am offended by racism though.

NotBadConsidering · 05/09/2020 22:25

@Grannyspecsandslippers

‘ Drag acts are offensive to women ’

I’m not remotely offended by drag, I am offended by racism though.

But not misogyny?

You’re not offended by the misogyny a male just deciding he knows exactly what it means to be a woman based on the stereotypes he sees, performing those stereotypes, redefining the word woman, and being rewarded by business/sport/the press etc for doing so?

Grannyspecsandslippers · 06/09/2020 00:12

Nope, not drag. I don’t think it is misogynistic and as a gay woman I’ e seen a lot of drag over the years.

NotBadConsidering · 06/09/2020 02:02

I’m not talking about drag. If you’re a gay woman, how is it you’re offended by someone identifying as black, but you have no issue with a male identifying as a lesbian?

Sexnotgender · 06/09/2020 07:42

@NotBadConsidering

I’m not talking about drag. If you’re a gay woman, how is it you’re offended by someone identifying as black, but you have no issue with a male identifying as a lesbian?
They’re clearly a troll, don’t waste your time they won’t answer you.
Grannyspecsandslippers · 06/09/2020 08:27

Someone could come on here asking for a Victoria sponge cake recipe tip and I swear it would be hijacked by anti trans posters....

samG76 · 06/09/2020 08:29

I’m Jewish and in surveys With an ethnic question I put myself down as “Other” rather than white, which is how I consider myself. I appreciate this is different from identifying as black, but as discussed on this thread people self-identify as Jewish all the time. This whole affair seems to say more about academia (and especially humanities) than anything else....

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 06/09/2020 08:29

@Grannyspecsandslippers

Someone could come on here asking for a Victoria sponge cake recipe tip and I swear it would be hijacked by anti trans posters....
Really? I suggest you have a look at the current spaghetti Bolognese thread. There's a fair bit of argument around mushrooms and peppers, but so far no one has tried to put a cock in the mix.

Sorry, sorry, "lady-dick".

user1471538283 · 06/09/2020 08:31

I read an article about her and others appropriating black. How its cool to be black unless you are black. I don't understand why anyone would do this. But there seems to be so many people that constantly want attention

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 06/09/2020 08:34

people self-identify as Jewish all the time.

I find this fascinating. I'll readily admit my own ignorance on this (see upthread!) but do you think it's because of the way being Jewish is both a religious belief and an ethnicity? Presumably people who self id as Jewish are id-ing into the religious belief? Kind of the mirror image of how you get Jewish people who say they don't believe in God but are ethnically and culturally Jewish?

Hopefully that makes some sense and isn't offensive!

Sexnotgender · 06/09/2020 08:35

@Grannyspecsandslippers

Someone could come on here asking for a Victoria sponge cake recipe tip and I swear it would be hijacked by anti trans posters....
And yet, you still haven’t answered any of the relevant questions asked of you. Ponders why...
ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 06/09/2020 08:35

@Grannyspecsandslippers

Someone could come on here asking for a Victoria sponge cake recipe tip and I swear it would be hijacked by anti trans posters....
Someone could come on here asking about the impact of self identification on a minority group and I swear it would be hijacked by people trying to shit down the debate by name calling...

I wonder why some people are so afraid of public debate on this topic?

Sexnotgender · 06/09/2020 08:36

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

people self-identify as Jewish all the time.

I find this fascinating. I'll readily admit my own ignorance on this (see upthread!) but do you think it's because of the way being Jewish is both a religious belief and an ethnicity? Presumably people who self id as Jewish are id-ing into the religious belief? Kind of the mirror image of how you get Jewish people who say they don't believe in God but are ethnically and culturally Jewish?

Hopefully that makes some sense and isn't offensive!

It makes sense. People convert to all kinds of religions.
ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 06/09/2020 08:38

Epic typo
shut down however I suspect the original version is more accurate!!

JamieLeeCurtains · 06/09/2020 08:58

@Grannyspecsandslippers

Someone could come on here asking for a Victoria sponge cake recipe tip and I swear it would be hijacked by anti trans posters....
Careful now.

Your agenda's showing.

Grannyspecsandslippers · 06/09/2020 09:01

I do wonder how Krug hot away with it for so long. She must have completely cut herself off from her previous life.

Grannyspecsandslippers · 06/09/2020 09:01

Got away with it.

Pertella · 06/09/2020 09:05

Because there are some who are willing to collude with this, and other types of appropriation, and so turn a blind eye or ignore whats going on.

Grannyspecsandslippers · 06/09/2020 09:08

‘but as discussed on this thread people self-identify as Jewish all the time.‘

Had no idea that this was a thing either.

Aridane · 06/09/2020 09:08

It is literally not a jot different from a man with a massive penis competing in women's sport

Why would a transwoman have a MASSIVE penis?

Aridane · 06/09/2020 09:12

Ah, @Grannyspecsandslippers - so now you’re a troll because you don’t find drag offensive or subscribe to the (anti) trans rhetoric Wink

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 06/09/2020 09:17

I'm Jewish and white-skinned and I identify as white Jewish. I do understand why Jewish people see themselves as not white, because I have experienced pretty rampant antisemitism in my profession as well as at university. So the Corbynist impression of Jews as an affluent minority that has "made it" and is no longer in need of protection is horribly inaccurate. But at the same time, the fact is that I am white skinned and that confers privileges notwithstanding the fact that I am Jewish. I don't think it would be accurate to say that I have never benefited from white privilege and it feels inaccurate to me to say that I am not white when I am. The way I am discriminated against (when I am) makes me an ally of non-white people but it is not the same thing.

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Aridane · 06/09/2020 09:22

I do wonder how Krug hot away with it for so long. She must have completely cut herself off from her previous life.

Especially as she doesn’t even look black (in the pictures. I’ve seem).

Reminds me of Ali G in a perverse way