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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

aibu to think mn should be for mums and not dads.

882 replies

2hot2cook · 06/10/2007 12:39

id like to think that when i come on here for a quick chat im talking to other women. ive noticed some men on here and thats actually putting me off. some of the topics we talk about are very intimate. i cant understand why men would want to come on this website, maybe the name should be changed to parentnet. aibu.

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DoctorFrankenSquonk · 11/10/2007 10:49

so, to recap:

men are all pervs and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near women or children.

Unless they're ugly.

Women shouldn't talk to men

Unless they're ugly.

Men shouldn't ever ever have an opinion unless it's one we've previously given them

um.... think that's it. And it only took 8 hundred and odd posts to get to that stage

harleyweendemon · 11/10/2007 10:50

glad we have got to the bottom of it

i was starting to lose the will to live

Meeely2 · 11/10/2007 10:53

can i ask we UNban 2hot, she is top entertainment!

2hot2cook · 11/10/2007 10:55

meeely; how can i fancy someone i cant see?

but people do have sex with people they're not married to?

and meeely; it happens alot at work. ive worked in offices.

and im not out of control.

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Meeely2 · 11/10/2007 11:08

so i'm shagging all my male colleagues?

Meeely2 · 11/10/2007 11:10

aside from you making me laff 2hot and am seriously confused about your point of view and the fact that you seem to think that everyone else feels like you do when in fact you are probably the ONLY person on Mn at least that think like this.

I really, really, really do not understand why you think men and women should not have friends of the opposite sex, absolutely crazy

IMO of course........

harleyweendemon · 11/10/2007 11:12

your poor dh musnt be up to much in the bedroom department if you see all the men you work with as fair game

duchesse · 11/10/2007 11:13

It's called MUMSnet cos that flows better than PARENTSnet, imo. Bit more catchy. I think that quite often the dads inject a note of sense and calm into debates that can sometimes be rather shrill. I do not see many men wondering into discussion about periods, tampons etc...

Am wondering what the big issue is. Have many male friends. Some gay, some not. Some in long-term relationships, some not. Do not want to shag them just because they are there. Wouldn't want to shag most of them because just don't fancy them. Does not mean we cannot be friends.

duchesse · 11/10/2007 11:14

wandering in. They might wonder.

Meeely2 · 11/10/2007 11:14

so 2hot,

"but people do have sex with people they're not married to?" yes you are correct, SOME people do have sex with people they are not married to - not ALL people with opposite sex friends have sex with them, why would you assume your DH was having sex with a female friend (assuming he's allowed them, which I doubt), why would u assume that if you had male friends you would have sex with them.

To me it sounds like you have this black and white view - "if i have a male friend i will sleep with him, so therefore i won't have any male friends......."

Georgeous · 11/10/2007 11:20

I understand 2hot, that sometimes you just want a girlie chat, no men around, but an internet forum is hardly the right place for that. You're better off having a coffee/glass of wine with girlfriends.

My DP is going to be looking after our DD for about five hours on Fridays while I go back to education. He is self employed so he can arrange his working hours as he pleases. He will be taking her to toddler groups where he will meet real live women, I have no problem with this, nor would I have a problem with him posting on mumsnet.

I do have to admit I have been jealous of his female friendships in the past, but I see that as MY problem. I don't like my jealous streak, but I try to see it for what it is.

littlelapin · 11/10/2007 11:29

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heifer · 11/10/2007 11:32

Crickey I bet my DH was panicing when I was the mens 1st xi hockey team manager - all those men around and just little old me...

although unlike LL I can't really say that my male friends are that attractive - or maybe I just know them too well..

heifer · 11/10/2007 11:32

OMG just remembered that DH was the ladies coach for a couple of seasons, do you think he was faithful to me?

Meeely2 · 11/10/2007 11:34

heifer, no, file for divorce immediately and get yourself to a nunnary (sp?)!

littlelapin · 11/10/2007 11:41

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Luella · 11/10/2007 11:45

I have to say 2hot that I'm normally somebody who sticks up for the person with the minority view, but I really can't in this case. Not having a go, I haven't got a problem with you, just think you're just a tad old-fashioned.

I feel sorry for men, us women moan about them working too hard, not doing enough to help with the children, but when they do some women insinutate it's a bit odd! Well it isn't. I have to say my DH isn't the type who would go on mumsnet, but he does go to parenting lectures at work and I LOVE it that he takes an interest. And for what it's worth, I love men and often find a lot of women together can be a bit bitchy. Even if there's a bit of banter, so what? Not every issue surrounding parenting is heavy and intimate. My DH says that he can identify with pregnant women more now that he's experienced it all with me, but not in a pervy way.

2hot2cook · 11/10/2007 13:43

wish i lived in your world.
sun always out, birds always singing, but last time i looked paradise didnt exist.

sometimes people do the wrong thing. nice people, people that dont mean to hurt anyone.

by forming close friendships with the oppersite sex, people can sometimes cross
the line. thats all.

i seem to be the only realist on here.

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incogneato · 11/10/2007 13:47

that's not realism, that's an incredibly black and pessimistic, even oppressive, view of humanity.
we can't make friends with anyone of the oppoiste sex, just in case we cross the line?
what kind of perverse logic is that? what about self control? what about free will?

lemonaid · 11/10/2007 13:54

Sometimes children playing with their friends get into fights.
Sometimes people who are eating eat too much or too little and develop eating disorders.
Sometimes people who venture outside their front doors get mown down and killed by cars.
Sometimes people who don't venture outside their front doors get killed by intruders.
By forming close friendships with the same sex, people who previously thought they were straight can sometimes cross the line, come to think of it.

If you live your life as though you can't do anything that has a "sometimes" attached to it, you'll ... well, I suppose you could breathe. Not many risks there (although sometimes people who breathe find that there's a malfunctioning heater nearby pumping out carbon monoxide). But most other activities would be off-limits.

lemonaid · 11/10/2007 14:02

And that's not "all".

You've told us that you think this forum should have no men reading it (although that's completely impossible to ensure, even if it were desirable).

You've told us that you don't think men talking to women is manly.

You've told us that you think there's something odd about men being comfortable changing nappies.

And now you say "by forming close friendships with the oppersite sex, people can sometimes cross the line. thats all." I can't see any kind of connection there.

Meeely2 · 11/10/2007 14:07

begs the question how you ever met your dh, fell in love and had kids, it really does......

SaintJude · 11/10/2007 14:21

Dont feed the troll....

2hot2cook · 11/10/2007 14:24

i think you all know what i mean but just dont want to admit it.

anyway, nothing more to say on this, all going around in circles.

thanks to all the men/women/little green men from mars, that have participated in this thread, its been alot of fun.
dont take what i say too seriously,

i wish i could have male friends.... but im just

2hot.

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