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To be annoyed about DH changing career?

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3ormoredogs · 31/08/2020 19:17

I know I probably sound selfish here but I had to ask anyway.

DH is a teacher. He is quite high up band wise. While training I supported him and have done the bulk of the childcare and running of the household while he worked himself up and trained, went on multiple courses and stayed up late working etc.

My career suffered through being a parent but I still work almost full time and contribute £25k/year to the family pot as well as doing most of the drop offs and pick ups and usual child related activities! I am also mid qualification to try and increase my own income but I don’t work in a high paid sector so DH is the main earner.

DH obviously does the childcare during school holidays which saves us a small fortune and means he can spend time with the DC. He is also home early enough to help and the job is pretty stable so we don’t tend to worry as some people have had to during corona etc.

We have finally started to pull ourselves around financially. Not rich but can afford to buy the odd nice thing without worrying and go on camping holidays that type of thing. We have just got out of debt. We have also just bought a new house that requires a lot of work, top of our budget but a family home in a rural area with good schools which we were planning on doing up bit by bit.

DH has hated his job for a while, moved around a bit to different roles in different schools and has now declared he wants to leave teaching and retrain. Apparently he can’t cope with the job any more and it’s causing him to be miserable and lockdown has made him see just how miserable. He has also said he’s been having anxiety at work for a while and does not want to cope with that amount of stress and pressure for the next 30 years.

I feel bad that he hates his job but don’t know how I can pretend I’m not very annoyed when he is talking about a drop in income of at least £20k which would mean an end to being able to afford anything for the next 5 years. We do not have any luxuries we can cut back on and very much live comfortably but not enough to loose £1k per month or whatever it would be.

He said his mental health is more important than money and his family think I’m selfish for saying this is not something we can look into with small children having just bought a house and that he needs to stick it out a while longer.
Not only that but the lack of job security really worries me in these uncertain times, he hasn’t even decided what he wants to do yet! He said a trade of some description or maybe police force as he thinks as a teacher he would have a good chance of getting in? Plus the shift work and childcare issues it’s going to create.

So, am I a selfish person thinking about my own happiness or should I be supporting my husband and thinking we could make this work?

Anybody dropped massively in income who can tell me it would be okay in the end?

OP posts:
Bigpaintinglittlepainting · 01/09/2020 19:49

I have been in this position with dh, we say down and I laid it out on the line what would have to happen and he changed his mind

Bigpaintinglittlepainting · 01/09/2020 19:50

Sat down !

crossstitchingnana · 01/09/2020 20:02

This is a toughy. I get the frustration on your part, he’s retrained once already and less money is stressful. My partner is making similar noises, hates working and having responsibilities and wants to quit. I hate him for it as I only earn £12000 as a Ta, and before anyone says i should retrain, I already have. The plan was he earns the lions share and I am home for holidays and to do most housey stuff. It’s the sudden change that is going to fuck me over that pisses me off. There’s no guarantee they’ll be happy in another job either.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 01/09/2020 20:10

This could well just be The Fear that every teacher has when returning to work after the summer holidays, exacerbated by the pandemic. It's also been a time to evaluate your own life because when you see from the news that life is precious and precarious, you want to make sure that at least you're living a happy one!

It's a really hard time for everyone. Education is a really shit place to be at the moment. Really shit. And, to be honest, modern life is a bit shit really, isn't it? Housing is too expensive, job choices are limited, it all leads to generalised anxiety and worry about the future. There's also the thing of everyone living to a ripe old age these days, and contemplating the thought of having to work in one field, like it or not, for the rest of your life. It's scary. Every bloody job with decent career prospects seems to have gradually become graduate entry (WHY!?!??!) but when we have chnaged the system so that you can only get funding for a loan for one degree in your lifetime, it makes it very hard to then retrain into something else later on.

When I graduated in the 90s there were jobs advertised all over the place. The cost of living was such that in a family with 2 parents, if one parent wanted to work PT because of childcare or even not at all, or take on a lower paid job for whatever reason, then it was totally doable! If someone approaching retirement age (which was younger than what it is now anyway) wanted to semi-retire because they needed to be there for elderly relatives or whatever, then it was much easier. There were lots of little PT jobs, often worked by people who were not the main earner but whose income paid for the little luxuries like holidays etc as the main earner's salary was enough for the household to survive on.

It's a disgrace that in the UK, a supposedly developed nation, we have got ourselves in a situation where, just to afford the basics to live, 2 adults now need to both work FT in stressful jobs with long hours, and put their children into nursery for long hours. There is now no-one free to voluntarily help others in the community - the vulnerable, lonely and elderly, and to keep an eye on the children letting themselves into empty houses each day after school, because we're all working our guts out to earn a wage simply to pay for a basic living.

However, while I have no idea how we've reached this state of affairs, reach it we have. And we need to learn how to navigate the best path through it. For some this means relocating to somewhere that has a better system, whether that be a teacher moving to a country that has a less ridiculous education system, or to cheaper housing etc.

I think teachers need to develop VERY thick skins. Go in, roll their eyes inwardly at the latest initiative (which they'll have seen 8 years earlier anyway), or whatever the new rewards system is. Just go along with it and focus on the bits you DO enjoy. Every teacher knows that most initiatives and OFSTED requirements are a load of bullshit, they're not what the job REALLY is. The important things are not quantifiable.

Your DH will know this, but these difficult times, and back to school, make it hard. It's not the best time to make a decision, but there's no harm in planning an exit strategy and seeing how things go in the new term. Sometimes even just thinking that you have the option to leave will take the pressure off. I do think there's a need to consider the future from his side, not just the family's. There's never a right time to switch career once you've got a family and a mortgage. Kids will grow up and become less dependent in terms of childcare, but instead they become teens who need financial help through uni themselves. So it never seems the right time. However, it's a loooong working life these days. You can't be in a job that makes you miserable for all of it. Maybe he secretly wishes he had married someone who had higher earning potential so that he could change career without any major financial shortfall. The reality is that you have the hand you're dealt with , you just need to work out the best way to play it.

daisypond · 01/09/2020 20:15

@CurlyhairedAssassin
Agree completely!

OVienna · 01/09/2020 20:45

@CurlyhairedAssassin brilliant post. Can I appoint you Head Girl?

You've summed up the entire load of - like, basically everyone's views, at least Gen X-wise- in one post.

LadyLairdArgyll · 05/09/2020 14:40

how are you OP 🌺

CurlyhairedAssassin · 05/09/2020 23:49

Yes, I’ve been wondering how things are now that schools are back. They’re not nice places to be at the moment. I’ve spent this week secretly wondering if all the SLT members including the Head are as anxious, miserable, and as fed up as their staff, and feeling some respect for them because I realise that they probably are. It’s just that in their position they can’t show it to their staff, and especially not to their students, and on top of that they have the threat of Ofsted visits and now things like Public Heath England checking up on what they’re doing etc. I often wonder which of them go home and tell their spouse they’re miserable and hate it, only there’s nothing they can do because of their age or family or financial situation or whatever.

Disclaimer: I’m sure not all schools are miserable places to work these days. I’m not sure secondary is the best phase, though.....

Why, thankyou for the vote of confidence, @OVienna Grin! However, I don’t think my views are anything out of the ordinary.

Purplepixiedust · 06/09/2020 00:48

You currently have earnings of 75k between you. No debt but no savings. Where on earth is all your money going?

Abu to expect him to stay in a job he hates.

AnEleanor · 06/09/2020 01:11

I’m also wondering how you managed to accumulate so much debt that you’ve only recently been able to buy ice cream even though your husband will have been earning 20 grand + for the last 10 years. It makes me wonder if he might feel he’s done his bit by getting to a point where you’ve paid off the debt.

Taking it all at face value I think your going to have to come up with a plan and a timeframe but realistically you can’t expect your DH to stick out a job he hates.

ForrestTrump · 06/09/2020 04:38

Depending on the trade it wouldn't be a big salary drop, or possibly an increase long term if self employed. The electricians were paid £41k at the company I worked at 15 years ago and self employed potentially earn more.

blowyernose · 06/09/2020 05:30

I've not read the whole thread but just wanted to leave a message. I don't want to sound negative but sometimes the grass is not always greener. My DH changed careers and joined the police about 8 years ago. I had to leave my job and move to his new place of work and I couldn't find work in my area of expertise (kinda niche) and not I have a very low paid unskilled job. It would be ok if DH was happy but he hates it. He is utterly miserable but also very good at his job. But with so my testosterone flying around and all colleagues and superiors trampling over one another to get promoted it's not fun and not the "teamwork" they promote. I don't ant to be negative but share my experience. Additionally it might be hard restarting a career during covid nevermind the new house and the potential extras childcare costs. I hope all works out for you though.

alphabetsoup1980 · 06/09/2020 08:15

Teaching has given a breakdown on two occasions - completely agree with what he's saying. It takes guts to leave a profession that you can easily stay in for the rest of your life. Before quitting, I'd definitely have a carefully thought out financial plan. X

Dastardlythefriendlymutt · 06/09/2020 09:59

Yes mental health is important but the OP has also spent years sacrificing her own earning capability to benefit the family unit. Surely he owes it to the family for her to finish her qualification and the children are a little older.

Why should the burden keep falling to OP. I'm sorry I sound so unsympathetic but there are bills to be paid. I'm surprised he doesn't feel an obligation to keep his earnings at the same level for his family. There are many other career changes that wouldn't result in such a drastic change in income. A £5k drop is okay, even £10k.

I'm honestly am all for mental health. I have debilitating anxiety, but I also have responsibilities to my children. When things have been difficult, I have taken the avenues open to me, flex working and sick leave. Why isn't sick leave an option before dramatically quitting his job. He could have a mental health evaluation and be signed off for a while to regroup.

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