AIBU to think teachers should not be teaching sex games to children?

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Article In today's Times about teaching resources for RSE from the proud trust.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/government-gives-pupils-sex-advice-on-the-roll-of-a-dice-80hmsplws

In summary "The government has funded a tool kit written by the Proud Trust, an LGBT charity, which includes dice featuring words such as “anus”, “vulva”, “penis” and “hands and fingers”. Children are encouraged to throw the dice twice and talk about the sexual acts that can happen using the two body parts".

AIBU to think this is deeply inappropriate and any school using Proud Trust resources needs investigating? WTF is the government doing funding pornographic material for children?

Most of the clitoris in internal.

Where is this document?

Well I am glad mine are grown up. Had this taken place at either of theor schools or been planned to then the Governors wpuld have received a very sharp letter and I would have expected the Heads absolute explanation and understanding of the matter.

People characterising homosexuality as a "kink

Where did anybody do that? It was the sex acts that were described that way, to a lot of people sticking objects in your anus is kink. Please don’t insist anal sex is reserved for, or a necessary part of homosexuality. That’s homophobic itself.

Where has someone said homosexuality is a kink?

@theDudesmummy

Homosexuality does not automatically = anal sex. Maybe you should wake up and stop stereotyping people.

@littlbrowndog

Can’t find a clearer picture of the game

Breasts and nipples not mentioned. At all

For the children boys and girls.
Body parts have now been renamed.

Clitoris is now called the external clitoris and prostate is now the internal clitoris.

Jeez.

who Wrote this stuff

Good grief. WTF is going on in schools? I agree with PP that this is a deliberate attempt to dismantle boundaries. Shouldn't schools be teaching the importance of resisting peer pressure, of critical thinking, or the absolutely inalienable right to say no? Aren't all of those things infinitely more important than throwing a dice and eliciting children's suggestions for anal sex?

Anal sex is a lot riskier than penis in vagina sex. It's not standard. Penises are not designed to go in anuses. It's a kink, whether you're gay or straight. And that's okay, but children don't need graphic descriptions of how to do things with their penis/tongue/fingers/vulva to someone's anus.

@IAmFleshIAmBone when did I say that? I know gay people who have never had anal sex and straight people who have it all the time. I don't see anal sex as a kink, far from it. But there have been people on this thread who have implied that homsexuality is a "kink"...

@theDudesmummy nobody has said that. Can you point me towards the comment that has said that?

This was discussed at length on FWR. Including the government survey that showed the vast majority of young girls really do not want to have anal sex, but, and this was the killer punch, the vast majority of boys know that, but want her to do it anyway.

Sex education should be about countering the damaging effects of porn on boys and girls.

And yes, the breasts, clitoris and nipples are entirely ignored in this 'sex education'. The male dominant dynamic is straight out of porn.

Although, to be honest, including those body parts wouldn't make it any better, in my opinion. A 13-year-old girl really does not want to be discussing her nipple stimulation with her teacher and the boys at the next desk.

Who the fuck is benefiting from this??

No-one picked up on this earlier in the thread, but this is exactly the problem and the whole point, they DO need this dicussion precisely BECAUSE it is easily found on the internet.

They need a discussion about boundaries and emotions and consent because of porn’s accessibility. They don’t need to emulate the stuff they see in porn. They need to know about female sexual pleasure and how far porn deviates from it. They don’t need instructions about anuses rubbing.

anuses rubbing deary me, surely the mere awkward logistics of this would far outweigh any momentary pleasure that might be derived from it

@Datun

This was discussed at length on FWR. Including the government survey that showed the vast majority of young girls really do not want to have anal sex, but, and this was the killer punch, the vast majority of boys know that, but want her to do it anyway.

Sex education should be about countering the damaging effects of porn on boys and girls.

And yes, the breasts, clitoris and nipples are entirely ignored in this 'sex education'. The male dominant dynamic is straight out of porn.

Although, to be honest, including those body parts wouldn't make it any better, in my opinion. A 13-year-old girl really does not want to be discussing her nipple stimulation with her teacher and the boys at the next desk.

Who the fuck is benefiting from this??

I agree with @Datun. ^^

So yy your little box of dice perfectly encapsulates all of those issues and doesn't challenge a single one. Pandering to the male gaze and the male sex experience isn't 'groundbreaking'. It's fucking heartbreaking and it's pathetic that people are bending over backwards to try to justify it.

Susansassy exactly this.

I feel so sorry for our girls growing up now

I agree. Porn has colonised popular culture and its dominance coincides with a social media peer pressure paradigm which is unimaginable even a decade ago. And instead of teaching critical thinking and resistance to peer pressure and the right to deviate from the status quo, schools are promoting this. What abject BS.

Very good point @nolongersurprised - and part of any education, not just sex ed, should be about how not everything on the internet in general is real or accurate.

Who the fuck is benefiting from this??

Porn obsessed men and groomers

I actually think that if teachers are reinforcing kinks like anal sex as being pleasurable, then they're only adding to the damage that porn has done....Kinks are definitely something that should be explored when a person is fully mature, not still in school.

OK, I concede that you did not actually call homosexuality a kink, but this sails pretty close to that.

theDudesmummy Where was this said on this thread? I don’t see anyone saying what you claim.

@theDudesmummy no, it doesn't. Not at all. Because I don't equate anal sex with homosexuality. Even gay boys only need the basics, as they are still children. It's also a risky sex act, so shouldn't be considered a normal part of sex, same as BDSM and other kinks.

When the motives would be made clear

Dudesmummy, you do understand that most of the time when gay men have sex, it’s not anal sex, right?

And many gay men never have anal sex.

I love the hypocrisy - be open and frank about anything, as long as you are inclusive to the point it makes you uncomfortable, and please don't raise any safeguarding issues lest you be branded a homophobe.