AIBU to wonder what conspiracy theories you think may hold some weight?

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Generally speaking I hate conspiracy theories, but is there anything out there that’s passed off as a conspiracy theory that you think holds some weight? I personally have some questions about the assassination of JFK.

@Awwlookatmybabyspider

There’s no way that baby Archie is not biologically related to Meghan. He’s the absolute spit out of her mouth.

Whaaat? He doesn't look anything LIKE Meghan. He's a complete cross of Harry (as a baby) and Thomas Markle.

Re: David Kelly, wasn't there something about him supposedly having cut his own left wrist (with a blunt knife) but it then transpired that he was left-handed, making that manoeuvre almost impossible?

Not sure if this counts as a conspiracy theory, but I've never believed for one moment that "only" 70 or so people died in Grenfell.

Some of here have said that Bin Laden is still alive. I raise you this: he never existed. The US needed a bogeyman on whom they could pin 9/11.

Oh I think he’s the image. He has got quite a good look of Harry, too.
We all see differently though, don’t we.

JFK. LHO was not the only shooter. I've watched a number of documentaries and LHO was an average shooter at best. For him to have taken the shots from that distance, reload and hit a moving target multiple times is highly, highly unlikely. I've seen a far superior marksman really, really struggle to do what LHO supposedly did

There was at least one other shooter on the grassy knoll

Actually, sometimes you can see different people on different days, or fleeting expressions or mannerisms. My mum used to exclaim aloud when I, as a child, would apparently do something my aunt (her sister) always did, but I'd hardly met her.

What’s this about Huntley?

It was a really awful, bizarre post from someone claiming to have secret insider knowledge they’d only share via DM, involving negative/bad things Holly and Jessica had done which the police and media had hushed up. The poster later claimed there was never an implication that sexual interest might have played a role, which is directly wrong - Huntley was a self-confessed pedophile who raped other children, and a major part of the prosecution’s case was sexual assault as motive. So to claim there was never even an insinuation is either an outright lie aimed at defending him, or a remarkable ignorance about the bare facts of the case.

boltzmannbrains I read all that, I actually want to know what the pm would have said. I’m not saying I’d believe it but I kind of live for this crap lol

Oh sorry, I misunderstood.

Yeah, I have to admit I would have been interested too.

boltzmannbrains I read all that, I actually want to know what the pm would have said. I’m not saying I’d believe it but I kind of live for this crap lol

This crap? WTF? You do realise that Holly and Jessica were real children, and the last thing their parents would ever need, even all these years later, is people online hinting at bullshit about how their 'negative behaviour' somehow led to their murder?

What is wrong with people? I know 'true crime' has become a form of entertainment these days (as it always was in a way I guess) but these are real people we are talking about here.

The 'Paul is dead' theories are hilarious. Like all the hidden clues in the album artwork. I've seen him live, if he's dead then the impersonator is an amazing one!

This one is true!

Only it was made up by the Beatles as publicity! It was going to be one of the others (Ringo/John?) but they didn’t want to ‘die’ they thought it would be tempting fate (or something) so Paul agreed to do it.

If anyone is interested in the Airey Neave story (I think it is just me!) I found the source - Kevin Cahill, who worked for Paddy Ashdown:

*Kevin Cahill, an Irish investigative journalist, claims Neave was on the verge of a massive overhaul of the security services, possibly involving a merger of MI5 and MI6 and arising from his belief in corruption in the security services. Cahill suggests a link between Neave's killing, that of Sir Richard Sykes' and the attempted murder of Christopher Tugendhat in December 1980. Cahill claims that Neave would have been head of the combined security services with Sykes and Tugendhat as his deputies, with Sykes responsible for foreign operations and Tugendhat responsible for home operations.

Cahill claims to have had a conversation with a drunken Neave on St. Patrick's Day 1979 in the foyer of the Irish embassy in London. Cahill had left a party and was waiting for a taxi. He saw Neave in the room and introduced himself to him as an admirer. Cahill claims that Neave was inebriated and responded "quite out of the blue" by saying "There are going to be changes here, big changes, soon. There is going to be cleaning of the stables...There has been serious corruption." Neave then said that there was "no use playing games. We have to win...We will win when the [corruption] is sorted out. Count on that." Cahill found Neave's remarks surprising because he seemed internally preoccupied with the UK, with his Northern Ireland brief "almost a sideline". Cahill also thought that Neave's mention of corruption meant Soviet penetration.

Whilst working in the House of Commons as Paddy Ashdown's research assistant, Cahill claims to have had around six conversations with the security staff there. The most frequent remark was that "everyone knew" the story behind Neave's death but that no one could talk about it in detail because it would have been too dangerous. Cahill claims they did not believe INLA killed Neave but that it was an "inside job".

Cahill concluded that Neave was killed by the security services; MI6 agents working with the CIA because Neave sought to prosecute senior figures in the intelligence establishment for corruption.*

Added to the fact that he was killed 2 days after Callaghan's government had lost a confidence motion and it was likely that the Conservatives would take power...

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude

The actual Titanic would have been rebadged as the Olympic. They were almost identical and the Olympic was apparently refitted in 1913 after the Titanic sank which made their interiors even more similar.

I live in the shadow of the shipyard where Titanic and Olympic were built. It would have been basically impossible to swap them. There were thousands of workers; they would have realised the ships had swapped names, and that the Olympic was suddenly undamaged.

Robin Cook's death, though, I do believe was a tragic coincidence. Although the whole heart attack atop a mountain thing does lend credence to the fact that truth is often weirder than fiction.

Was there not a theory that the US were ellicitly funding the KLA? Madeleine Allbright certainly seemed to regard Hasim Thaci like her favourite nephew, it was kind of creepy.

Okay, so, I 'know' Covid is real and I never listened to the Covid conspiracies or any others for that matter.

But...

I live in one of the reportedly worst hit areas.

I developed a health condition and I've been in and out of hospital for about 3 weeks for something, let's say a serious leg problem. The hospital doctors saw me immediately the blood tests returned, I've had numerous tests across several departments and they keep calling me in for more. The other day, one doctor called to ask me how I was feeling, I mentioned some pain somewhere, they told me to come in to check it out. I left a few hours later with advice for painkillers. I've gone in so many times now.

Meanwhile, in the hospital, the nurses and doctors are very available, tests booked no problem, no sense of urgency, hospital staff chatting leisurely. The very senior doctor decided to take my blood himself one time, no mask, no gloves. Then I come home and hear the news of how hospitals are struggling or I read from MN how people's appointments are being cancelled. The hospital has all the hand gels and masks, social distancing and everything else, but you would never know there was a pandemic.

Also, I work in a public sector organization where most staff have a caseload of clients, up to about 200 each, many with long-term health problems. We are in touch with them by phone and no one in my office has lost any clients to Covid. We've lost 1 person to suicide due to previous MH problems.

Surely, there is Covid out there. I just haven't seen it in this area, despite being one of the worst hit areas. I don't get it really.

• Diana was murdered..

she was pregnant and the bigoted, racist royal family wouldn’t allow the future king of England to have a brother from an ethnic minority..

• Epstein was murdered, too much evidence to believe that he killed himself, laughable in fact.

• Covid didn’t come from eating bats (which the Chinese and others have been doing for thousands of years btw..) it cane from the medical lab in Wuhan..

• Russia behind brexit, very sad! A war is coming and I don’t know from what direction?

David Kelly also definitely murdered, very sad!

Diana wasn’t pregnant, the autopsy would shown it and iirc one of her friends said she was having her period or something.

I don’t believe her relationship with Dodi was especially serious (wasn’t there a story she was in love with another man and using him to make this man jealous?). Al Fayed is a nutter with an agenda who’s exploited their deaths and encouraged conspiracy theories for his own ends.

I think it is possible to examine available evidence and reach a measured conclusion that may be at odds with the official story about some events. But that is very different from declaring, “I just don’t believe it” based on absolutely nothing but wild speculation. The vast majority of conspiracy theories boil down to the latter.

@boltzmannbrains oh the autopsy published in public newspapers funded by friends of the aristocracy said she wasn’t.. must be true then..
Maybe it was the same pathologist who claimed Epstein’s injuries coincided with suicide..

And her mate said she was on her period.. listen to yourself.. that’s ridiculous - genuinely that has made me lol!

Lots of people on here saying the RF would have done it cleaner - like a bomb..
how on earth is that cleaner? That’s an obvious murder attempt!
I doubt anyone believes she would have committed suicide.

The way they topped her is perfect as it will have people claiming it was an accident for eternity.

Well played Lizzie x

boltzmannbrains You’re grand. I’m still interested if anyone else knows what it might be lol.

SoManyActivities clearly when I said this crap, I meant conspiracy theories in general..

@BelfastSmile
I agree with you. I think it was the Titanic that sank. Research into the Titanic also explains why it sank as dramatically as it did. The coal fire, the incomplete bulkheads and penny pinching by White Star leading to a lower grade of steel being used.

Princess Grace's daughter was pissed and driving when they crashed.

@Baggagerack

I will never believe Diana’s death was an accident. The mother of the future king in a relationship with a Muslim? The Act of Succesion that forbade senior royalty marrying a Catholic was only amended in 2013. No trace of the car that hit them?

The Act of Succession is utterly irrelevant to the divorced wife of a member of the Royal Family. It's incredibly unlikely that she'd have married Dodi Fayed anyway. And if anyone in the UK wanted to kill her, why do so in France where they couldn't control the police and medics? Why do so by an accident that was so easy to survive?

Willy McRae was murdered...