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AIBU to wonder what conspiracy theories you think may hold some weight?

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Soundbyte · 27/08/2020 21:55

Generally speaking I hate conspiracy theories, but is there anything out there that’s passed off as a conspiracy theory that you think holds some weight? I personally have some questions about the assassination of JFK.

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SciFiScream · 28/08/2020 15:14

There's a crowd funder running at the moment by the wife (though separated at the time) of Bernard Mongan. It closes in 5 days and isn't nearly high enough.

SciFiScream · 28/08/2020 15:15

It's on crowdjustice "what happened to Lance Corporal Bernard Mongan?"

saveforthat · 28/08/2020 15:16

I don't believe it but Ive become fascinated by the Paul McCartney died in 1966 theories.

PhilSwagielka · 28/08/2020 15:18

The 'Paul is dead' theories are hilarious. Like all the hidden clues in the album artwork. I've seen him live, if he's dead then the impersonator is an amazing one!

WanderingWordsearch · 28/08/2020 15:22

@PhilSwagielka

As his regiment was on leave I can understand how nobody noticed the smell but if he was meant to have died on NYD then normally they would have been back before then so it seems a long time for it not to be noticed. I'm not sure when they came back however.

I find it hard to believe that it was not noticed he was missing. When he didn't turn up to his new posting i can't see how it didn't trigger an investigation, at the very least to check he wasn't AWOL.

It's so sad. I hope she gets closure too as none of it makes sense. It's such a sad story for such a funny guy.

roseyroserose · 28/08/2020 15:24

@Baggagerack

I will never believe Diana’s death was an accident. The mother of the future king in a relationship with a Muslim? The Act of Succesion that forbade senior royalty marrying a Catholic was only amended in 2013. No trace of the car that hit them?
I completely agree. Dodi's father also firmly believed that his son and Diana were murdered. There is no way the establishment at that time would allow the future king of England's mother have a child with a Muslim man.
Rigamorph · 28/08/2020 15:26

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LynetteScavo · 28/08/2020 15:27

David Kelly did not end his own life and I'm sure some people know where flight MH370 is.

No way is Diana's death a conspiracy.

WhoWouldHaveThoughtThat · 28/08/2020 15:38

Somebody told me that their friend's cousin who works at BT met a chap in their IT department who said that nearly all the entries on Mumsnet are fictitious and made up by a roomful of people (over 90 individuals apparently) in India, and it's all just done to generate advertising revenue.
I don't know if I believe that but then even I am a figment of my own imagination. Confused

The80sweregreat · 28/08/2020 15:38

This latest pandemic has thrown up a few questions over the vaccine and how that might give us long term effects that are not positive ( once one is available , of course)
A few people I know have doubts based on other things that have gone wrong with vaccines and inoculations in the past ( too long to go into here) not to mention the Bill Gates involvement and so on.
Many are influenced by Facebook posts and things they see and look at online for any big events in history and this latest one will be rumbling on for decades too I'm sure.
Many mentioned on this thread I've no idea about at all : the idea that you could pay off lots of people to keep quiet about so many things is in incredible but governments have ways and means I suppose and there are lots of things that might go on that we know nothing about.
The body in the zipper bag is intriguing and most things with any Russian influence is always under speculation.
I used to believe Lady Diana was murdered , but I have my own doubts now.
Jill Dando was sad and also a big mystery.
What we now know about Saville may have had something to do with it?
A lot of things going on , we will never know the truth!
I do Love a conspiracy thread though.

Devlesko · 28/08/2020 15:40

I believe that PM could have died in that car crash, I can also believe why they would have kept him alive, they were making a lot of money for a lot of people.
The sudden left handed playing gave it a way a bit, and the difference in his ears.

Schmeebles · 28/08/2020 15:41

I don't believe in "conspiracy theories", because most of them rely on the idea that a large number of people were organised enough to plan in advance and then keep it secret and that's just not credible.

I do believe that a lot of cover-ups happen though, and can in retrospect therefore look like conspiracies (and I suppose technically they are because multiple people are complicit in the coverup).

Therefore, I am changing my answer to yes I do believe some conspiracy theories but only those that did not require forward planning Grin

And no way do I believe that Epstien killed himself.

MoreListeningLessChatting · 28/08/2020 15:44

why diana though? I mean no seatbelt driver going too fast and how do you make her and boyfriend leave a perfectly safe Ritz hotel late at night where they had a room to travel somewhere else

saveforthat · 28/08/2020 15:46

PM always played LH guitar though

JanMeyer · 28/08/2020 15:47

David Kelly was a very sociable man with many friends locally and a family. The people who knew him didn’t think he was suicidal. It isn’t as if he was some loner where nobody knew his state of mind and he had nobody supporting him.

And how many times do we see stories in the press where someone commits suicide and there's relatives/ parents/friends who all say they didn't see it coming, that they never thought he'd do something like that, that he seemed so happy?
Having friends and a family doesn't make someone less likely to commit suicide. And the people around a person aren't always well placed to know their state of mind and how they really feel.

saveforthat · 28/08/2020 15:49

And yes (for most of these theories) an extraordinary number of people would have to have kept the secret for decades in some cases

MoreListeningLessChatting · 28/08/2020 15:50

@pcmcgregor

You said 'I don't believe that Ian Huntley killed the girls'

Who do you think killed them then?

Why blame the caretaker?

Devlesko · 28/08/2020 15:50

I’d question the intelligence of anyone that believed it was murder. Just take a second to think about it.

I'd question the intelligence of anyone who can't see that it could have been murder, and believes what they are told, lol.
Just take a second to think about it.

riotlady · 28/08/2020 15:58

I think there’s far more paedophilia/sex trafficking high up in government and entertainment than we can bear to think about, tbh, going back generations and covered up by the government (massive side eye to Theresa May and the home office “losing” 100s of relevant documents)

Don’t think Diana was anything other than a tragic accident though, a car crash is such a wildly inefficient way to kill someone. I think of the Mitchell and Webb sketch about it every time someone brings it up!

1304togo · 28/08/2020 16:03

i've not heard about the distressing open questions about Lance Corporal Bernard Mongan, and his assult/on-going investigation at the MoD. thank you for bringing it to attention.

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1304togo · 28/08/2020 16:04

oh, am i not allowed to post about Bernard Mongan;s widow crowd funding for legal representation - apologies if so MNHQ - just remove my post please.

Rigamorph · 28/08/2020 16:24

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Stripesgalore · 28/08/2020 16:28

‘And how many times do we see stories in the press where someone commits suicide and there's relatives/ parents/friends who all say they didn't see it coming, that they never thought he'd do something like that, that he seemed so happy?
Having friends and a family doesn't make someone less likely to commit suicide. And the people around a person aren't always well placed to know their state of mind and how they really feel.’

I don’t know how many times I can say this. None of his family and friends thought he was very happy. They thought he was under extreme mental stress. What are you talking about? Are you unfamiliar with who he is?

They are better placed to judge Whether he was suicidal or not than a bunch of internet randomers.

riotlady · 28/08/2020 16:32

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