To feel so angry at the prospect of a no deal Brexit

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The clock is ticking now and this looks like the most likely scenario. It's not fair on the almost half the population who voted remain, and it's not fair even on those who voted leave because it's so different from what they were promised. And, to inflict this on the country in the middle of the pandemic is the last thing we need.

No deal Brexit possibly in the middle of a second wave?

Not sure how they’re going to pass off the border problems in Kent as covid related, but Cummings will do his best!

There was never going to be a deal. It's done now. At least there will be something else for people to get their knickers in a twist about besides fucking covid.

nicky7654 you were the one calling autism a fad yesterday, weren't you?

Pharma has already said it can’t create a 6 week stockpile this time.

5th August;

"A spokesperson for the manufacturer Teva said it was aware of the letter from the DHSC, and that it was “in regular contact with them and other stakeholders about Brexit preparations and have plans in place for safety stock of medicines if needed."

“We’re as confident as we can be that no patient will go without their Teva medicine because of Brexit.“

"A spokesperson for the manufacturer Accord said it had “been anticipating this situation”.

“Over the last three years Accord has made several strategic investments in the UK, providing us with two UK-based manufacturing plants and the largest manufacturer-owned warehouse and distribution centre in the UK by pallet storage locations, all of which has put us in a strong position to maintain the supply of medicines and demonstrate our continued commitment to the UK and NHS,” they said."

www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analysis/news/government-asks-medicines-manufacturers-to-stockpile-drugs-for-end-of-brexit-transition-period/20208241.article

@nicky7654

I'm happy Labour were not voted in! The people have spoken thank goodness. This country will become great again once the robbing EU are off our hands. Most corrupt organisation ever!!!

People who are still - frankly - stupid enough to think this is why we are fucked.

Brexit was always going to be a fucking disaster and will absolutely go down in history as one of the greatest acts of self-sabotage ever committed.

@nicky7654 can only be friends with white, Nigel Farage supporters who voted for Brexit so I wouldn’t take much notice of their opinion tbh.

There was never going to be a deal.
You join a club, you leave. You cannot leave, but still have the advantages of being a member. Trying to hook onto those countries that have "special" arrangements, but are not and never were members, is doomed to fail.
You put yourself in a very weak negotiating position, too, as you have nothing much to offer.
Result: no deal with EU, at the mercy of US, China, India or anyone else who feels the desire to "play".

@nicky7654

I'm happy Labour were not voted in! The people have spoken thank goodness. This country will become great again once the robbing EU are off our hands. Most corrupt organisation ever!!!

Sadly it wasn’t the people who made an informed decision about voting. There was serious corruption and interference. That has been widely reported. The campaign was illegally funded, had Russian interference and was based on lies. Interestingly Cornwall is now asking for the money they will lose through Brexit. Other poor areas will follow. Turkeys; Christmas comes to mind. Cummings is hardly elected and has manipulated himself into the most powerful position in the country. Probably with support he gained from his time abroad. The government is now close to dictatorship. It reeks of 1933 and we have perfect conditions for history to repeat itself.

There will be no ‘great again’. There was never really great, was there? I’m curious to know, @ nicky76454 what that greatness means to you? Specifically?

You join a club, you leave. You cannot leave, but still have the advantages of being a member

True. I think the EU has offered David Frost some similar terms to those we already have though, and they have been turned down as 'not Brexit' And yet at the vote in 2016, there was no actual plan, other than the so called easiest deal in history. People were told it would be easy.

The point is yes, there are some people like pp on here who say they wanted no deal or think it will work out in the end but if you put all the lies to one side and explained to people in 2016 what would actually be happening - with a no deal scenario- then I have no doubt that the majority would not have voted for it.

The government is acting without a mandate and it''s going to do the most damaging thing to the country. With no shits given about NI or Scotland or the 48% who voted remain in 2016 or those who were lied to about what the referendum would mean in reality.

I can't see why anyone, having gone through this year, would want another problem in supermarkets with shortages even, this time self inflicted. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of course.

Jacob Rees Mogg said it will take 50 years for our economy to recover and get back to where it is today, and he said that before the pandemic.

He didn't say anything of the sort - deliberate misquote from the Remain camp.

The campaign was illegally funded

Official campaign spending:

•Remain: £19,309,588 + David Cameron's £9 million leaflet to every household.
•Leave: £13,332,569

SadSoVerySad
'I just cannot understand all the vitriol aimed at Cummings. He was/is employed to do a job. Why is the fact that he was/is successful at his job and helped to achieve the result he was tasked to do so galling to so many people?'

Perhaps because Cummings is unelected. No-one really knows what he thinks (other than that the rules everyone else has to follow do not apply to him) or what he is advising. Our laws and policy are being influenced - actually more than that, probably made, by someone whom we know very little about - although I do remember seeing a clip of a speech he made about privatising the NHS. He advertised for people who 'think outside the box' and employed someone with an interest in eugenics . He appears bored by the hoi polloi.

Also - did anyone hear the reporting yesterday that the UK wheat crop yield is down by 40%, so bread prices will inevitably rise, and if we have a no deal brexit there will be tariffs on wheat imports of £79 per tonne. But heigh-ho, we'll have our sovereignty back.

It takes two to make a deal.

Several other EU countries have a strong and growing inclination to leave the EU. It is in the EU's interests to stop any other countires leaving.

The EU could agree or accept some of the UKs demands and negotiate on others. If it seen as being accommodating to the UK, more countries will leave.

Already the increased in membership fees are increasing.

If the plan all along within the UK government was for a no deal Brexit (and I'm not saying yea or nay) it was the EU plan B if the UK could not be brought back in.

Autism is a fad? I was diagnosed before it was cool.

Also, not being funny but how is Britain going to become great again? We can’t get the empire back and loads of our industries are outsourced.

Remain: £19,309,588 + David Cameron's £9 million leaflet to every household.
•Leave: £13,332,569

Not sure that addresses the quote you added questioning the legality of the source/contribution/ amounts etc.

Not that it matters now.

Our esteemed Prime Minister had a very reassuring response to the people who asked him about the paperwork which would make life impossible for import/export between England/Scotland/Wales and Northern Ireland.

He said 'put it in the bin' there will be no paperwork required for trade within the UK.

So that's alright then.

Here's JRM's comments about the 50 years. Not very inspiring......

@GhostofFrankGrimes

That’ll be Eastern European workers picking fruit during the pandemic because British folk don’t generally want to do it.

In all fairness, Brits did apply - I know at least one person on here did - but were turned down because farmers want Eastern Europeans. Easier to exploit.

Crankley you've written two posts without using the words 'woke' or 'snowflake' !

U ok hun ?

The only people responsible for the breakdown of the peace process in NI are the morons who take up arms and murder innocent people in the name of religion.

This government are so useless that even if they actually wanted a deal it would be too much for them. When things get bad they will look around for something or someone to blame. No matter what, it will not be the government’s fault so look at Covid 19 or civil servants. Look for Johnson in a school, fridge or tent. When questioned on how Brexit has worsened our precarious state and economic recovery you will be told how wonderfully well they have delivered Brexit and managed all manner of things. They will not answer the question.

In all fairness, Brits did apply - I know at least one person on here did - but were turned down because farmers want Eastern Europeans. Easier to exploit.

Exploitation of workers is what happens when unions are purposely run down and undermined over the decades. The British have had their own governments doing that, not the EU. But thanks for the ancedote.

Phil some fruit farmers have found this year that UK workers are 50% less productive than the (probably more experienced) EE workers. As reported in The Sunday Times on 23 August.

It feels like one big clusterfuck that's continued to amass while we've been dealing with a fucking pandemic, and will soon land in all of our fucking laps. I lost all optimism that a set of trade deals beneficial to this country could be reached, especially while we're governed by a bunch of corrupt arseholes.

diplodocusinermine
Not very inspiring......

He says;
"Leaving the European Union is going to be the greatest opportunity, economically, for this country."

He certainly doesn't say;
"It will take 50 years for our economy to recover and get back to where it is today."