To ask if Boris really resigning

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This is interesting. It mentions about him making last minute decisions without debate

Dg , I do agree with you : I just find it upsetting personally that all this is coming to people and they don't realize how bad it will be. Also that Johnson will duck out of it at the right moment. ( a bit like Blair did too )

@netflixismysidehustle

What does Cummings even want?

Cummings has secured loads of government funding contracts for AI firms linked to Vote Leave. Having controlled Johnson, I think that controlling anybody with an online presence is next as that can lead to controlling Johnson's successors

I expect after the success of the exam results, Cummings is speeding up his plan to run the UK via AI in order to remove that final tiny risk that voters don't do as they are told.

I have noticed how the underlaying tone towards Johnson has changed. There was a lot of sympathy for him while ill (at the same time as slagging off neighbours for coughing while shopping ). There aren't nearly as many sympathetic voices now.

I keep meaning to a deep internet search on conservative use of focus groups and monitoring of social media and how it informs their decision making. I wonder if this story is a set-up leak to gage public views on replacing Johnson.

Johnson will duck out of it at the right moment. ( a bit like Blair did too )

If he'd have had any sense he would have buggered off just after getting covid. I have a feeling it won't be his decision.

He was Gove and Cummings Trojan Donkey. Get the Tories a nice big majority. And then a year of wiffley, waffley, messy hair, lolling about as PM. Name in History books. UK out. Job done. If all had been fine then he might've stayed on as the puppet head but Covid happened, Boris is unpopular, been shown up to be incompetent and entirely unsuited to the job. I doubt he even wants to wait until February.
The economy is in the toilet even before Brexit. So I saw a rumour that Sunak might get the job so Gove can remain still untouched by the shit. However, if Gove leaves it too late with all his machinations he might never get to No. 10..

@netflixismysidehustle I suspect Carrie has learned the hard way that the phrase ‘how you get them is how you lose them’ is painfully true.

But she got the social status and attention she wanted, hasn’t had to job hunt after her last position ended and will have a platform for whatever she reinvents herself as once the Johnson episode of her life is over.

Whether she makes it to being the next Mrs Johnson or not, she’s got a path to a few career choices.

Though, given how beautifully the last Mrs Johnson (Rightfully) took him to the cleaners during their divorce, the pay off won’t be quite as healthy as it might have been for what she’s had to tolerate.

@roundturnandtwohalfhitches if Sunak gets in over Gove next, it means things are too screwed even for Gove and Cummings to benefit from.

Sunak has good PR. The furlough scheme and eat out make him look like he is a man who cares for the people. He is one of, if not the richest sitting MP, and was one of the hedge funders who tipped the 2008 recession into full swing which made him a multi millionaire.
Making money is what drives Rishi, not serving the people. If he allows Gove & Cummings to manipulate him into taking the next hit, it would be a rare misstep for him. He is very canny.

Someone like Raab is more likely - a galloping ego with the intellectual capabilities of a potato and the charisma to match.

But she got the social status and attention she wanted, hasn’t had to job hunt after her last position ended and will have a platform for whatever she reinvents herself as once the Johnson episode of her life is over.

No she won't. Not a bit of it. She's now under the leash of Boris until Wilf is 18 at least. She can't step out of line because Boris can bounce up to the family court for a paper chain of injunctions based around protecting Wilf. And these will have teeth.

Who remembers Cecil Parkinson ?

@DGRossetti I imagine Carrie has been canny enough to sock away some bargaining chips. He’s a very careless operator, Johnson, with hedonistic proclivities he would pay a lot to keep quiet about.

The beauty of dealing with arrogant and entitled people is they rarely think of consequences before they act, so it’s not very hard to gain the upper hand if you have evidence of things they would rather no one know about.

There is a reason his good friend Dom has stayed untouchable and it is not because of loyalty.

@DGRossetti I imagine Carrie has been canny enough to sock away some bargaining chips. He’s a very careless operator, Johnson, with hedonistic proclivities he would pay a lot to keep quiet about

If he gets an injunction based around Wilfs needs, he can pretty much get up to what he likes without any fear. My observation of familiy courts these past years has been that they take a very wide view of "the needs of the child" which will include not allowing their parents proclivities to be made public.

If Carrie has any dirt on Boris, it will never see the light of day.

Men of privilege subverting the protections the state makes for the child to their own end ? I defy anyone to even suggest they think it's never happened before. It's almost a Tory scout badge to get. Along with "ironic" racism, and a casual attitude to consent.

@DGRossetti

The most upsetting thing for me is that the country will suffer so much

Upsetting ? The country has got exactly what it voted for. There should be street parades and floats and carnivals. It's a rare example of democracy delivering what the public wanted. We wanted a Tory government. We got a Tory government. And the Tory government we wanted is doing exactly what they said they would.

That's why all this talk of "needing votes" is a bit misplaced. Whoever the Tories have as leader for at least the next 4 years doesn't need a single vote from a single person. We will get who we are given, and damn well be grateful for it too.

Frogs and scorpions.

Exactly. Most Brits are conservative at heart and wanted Johnson because he promised to deliver Brexit. He did. What will happen after Brexit, I don't know.

I do agree that if there was an election next month people would still vote for the tories.
Despite everything.

@DGRossetti oh I don’t doubt that there are men of privilege abusing the family court and injunction system to cover their dodgy doings, at all.
Even men of no privilege. It’s a system that seems designed to reward bad behaviour under the guise of a child’s best at times.

But in this case, hypothetically speaking, Carrie never dishing any dirt in return for doing as she wishes, with both sides keeping a silent front on events and activities in the relationship, out of respect for their child’s privacy, could be precisely the kind of deal to stop anything ever getting to court or injunction stage in the first place. It may even be the kind of deal that’s been struck before.

All conjecture in any case as they are very much together and very happy with it as those recent photos show!

Yes. Paddy Power have odds of 3/1 for him to resign in 2021, so he'll get to deliver his precious Brexit then slope off citing ill health.

Apparently his term as PM hasn't worked out the way he expected. I think it's safe to say it's been what I expected, even with the global pandemic.

Cummings is just as much a scapegoat as Johnson. He wouldn't be all over the media otherwise.

I suspect they're both a diversion to distract us away from the real power games.

I think it's highly unlikely sunak has integrity. So the fact he can pretend he has some makes him dangerous.

I think there's a deal already in place about not revealing at least one of his children. Wasn't there something going on where one woman was identified as having his child and somehow it was also revealed thst there was another woman out there with another? Ive forgotten the details!

Allegedly there's also another injunction in place regarding Cummings wife, when Bojo was a journalist he and Cummings wife were colleagues and Boris acted inappropriately towards her and exposed himself to her, how true this is I don't know but would explain the hold Dom has over him.

@rosie39forever

Allegedly there's also another injunction in place regarding Cummings wife, when Bojo was a journalist he and Cummings wife were colleagues and Boris acted inappropriately towards her and exposed himself to her, how true this is I don't know but would explain the hold Dom has over him.

Call me a bit of a square, but I really don't think injunctions should be allowed to conceal criminal behaviour ...

@rosie39forever I’ve heard that too but also so many stories of him being appropriate to and around female colleagues that it would be surprising if this is the dirt Cummings has on him.

There are rumours this week that Cummings is having serious health issues, which are being passed off as fairly minor for now.

If he has to step down because of his health, Johnson will be gone soon after whether he wants to or not as he is totally incapable of doing the job and no one else will step in to cover for him.

That would explain why the meetings between Gove and Murdoch are becoming more frequent.

Imagine how unbearable Sarah Vain will be if Gove gets the top spot. Out of the whole lot of them she manages to be the worst.

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Symond's lost her job as the Conservative Party's head of communications after a brief tenure due to poor performance and allegation of abuse of expenses. She is in her own horsy, Home Counties, swishy-haired way, not so very different to Johnson. Grifters gotta grift.

@SabrinaThwaite

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yup!

Let's not bring Carrie into any discussions. In the 21st century we have compassion for those with low self-esteem.

Whenever Mr Johnson goes, his next place of residence should be on remand whilst facing charges for manslaughter. Thousands fewer should be dead if he had acted quickly in march.