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To ask if Boris really resigning

241 replies

Leaannb · 25/08/2020 20:04

www.businessinsider.com/dominic-cummings-father-in-law-boris-johnson-will-resign-february-2020-8

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Taikoo · 26/08/2020 02:39

He'll never resign.

I have heard rumours that he is in rehab, though. The holiday is just a cover for that, allegedly.

itsgettingweird · 26/08/2020 06:35

@PhilSwagielka

What does Cummings even want?
That's a really good question.

I think it's chaos and reorganisation.

I can't work out if it's because he really believes it's for the best or it just he loves the feeling he's controlling that

rwalker · 26/08/2020 06:51

I bet the rest of them are shitting themselves incase he does who an earth would want that poison chailse.

Bouncycastle12 · 26/08/2020 06:53

He suddenly looks exactly like Stanley Johnson in the holiday pics. He’s aged astonishingly in the last year. (Poor Carrie!)

StealthPolarBear · 26/08/2020 07:13

This is like a pantomime. I honestly can't believe that this is going on.
That said, is there anyone who thinks Johnson, Cummings or Gove care about anyone but themselves or their friends? Is there anyone still hanging on to the hope they're doing the right thing for the country and the people who live in it?

TatianaBis · 26/08/2020 09:00

@Didkdt

Mary Wakefield is an arrogant nasty piece of work. There are 100s of men as driven as Cummings shafting anyone in their way. I can see Raab as our next Pm
I’ve always had a weird fear Raab would end up as PM from way back before he was in the cabinet.
annabel85 · 26/08/2020 09:03

No, he'll u-turn on it.

Mumratheevergiving · 26/08/2020 09:54

Boris probably enjoyed himself yesterday dressing up as a member of the Red Arrows and pontificating over the Greatness of the country’s history. He has basically given up engaging with anything Pandemic or Brexit related. His role is reduced to that of a panto dame wandering across stage periodically.

SabrinaThwaite · 26/08/2020 10:04

His role is reduced to that of a panto dame wandering across stage periodically.

Exit, pursued by a Gove bear.

Starsabove1 · 26/08/2020 10:07

@netflixismysidehustle he was having the haircuts, she was objecting to the unorthodox service being provided by the hairdresser.

But there were also issues about the person serving him drinks and the one interviewing him for articles which never appeared.

Allegedly.

Gardenpad · 26/08/2020 10:15

@SabrinaThwaite

A few lovely teas with the Queen, a massive monthly pay cheque

Johnson was raking in much more cash as a backbencher - MP salary, £275k writing bollox for the Torygraph faithful, and all those lovely corporate gigs with all those lovely added (28 yr old) extras.

There are very rich pickings (at least £50k a speech) on the lecture circuit alone for an ex PM - he'll make a killing using same speech over and over again - much more lucrative being an exPM than a backbench MP - even with a Telegraph salary. Have you seen how much Tony Blair is worth?
DGRossetti · 26/08/2020 10:25

@PhilSwagielka

What does Cummings even want?
To smash - and rebuild the system brick by brick. He hates the Tories and is only using them as useful idiots. Think of how the revolutionaries carried Robespierre shoulder high into the Convention ...
The80sweregreat · 26/08/2020 10:37

Dominic wants to carve up the Civil service and ' get brexit done' .

Starsabove1 · 26/08/2020 10:39

I think Gove is likely to take over - he has been groomed by Murdoch for quite a while, who never wanted him tainted by the prospect of a no deal brexit - because how ever fervent they all seem about no deal and however much money they make, they know the impact will be devastating for the majority of the population and that people will be very, very angry.

Johnson was the easy answer for that. He is so arrogant and lazy they knew he would love the chance to be big boss but wouldn’t interfere in the no deal plan as he is too lazy and incompetent to implement any actual policy. Once no deal has been pushed through combined with the post covid implications he will be poison and removed from office for the greater good with Gove coming to save the day.

For all his many faults Boris is charming and good fun (as long as you don’t trust him when your back is turned) but Gove is almost universally loathed.
He is far more intelligent than boris and far more ruthless.
He will keep his master Murdoch happy but will be far more involved in actual leadership than Johnson.

He and Cummings together could inflict a level of austerity and misery on the workers, the poor, disabled and vulnerable of this country that will make Victorian workhouses look like 5 star resorts and there will be no EU laws or courts to protect us.

This has been the plan all along. Brexit vote started as a vanity gamble by Cameron but was quickly hopped on by those who thought the UK was getting far too close to being a society where the rich and privileged were losing their automatic entitlements.

rosie39forever · 26/08/2020 10:40

Cummings is grooming Sunak for pm, Boris will be gone by March.

MarshaBradyo · 26/08/2020 10:41

Sunak is a better bet than Gove.

Up against Starmer

LonelyFromCorona · 26/08/2020 10:44

Boris wanted to come in and go down in history as the PM who 'delivered Brexit' - whether it be a disaster or not. Suspect the plan was always to quickly bugger off a year or two after that, now his name is secure in the history books. He comes across to me as a sociopath, only interested in his own fame and glory (look how he treated his former partners and both his confirmed and unconfirmed kids)

Of course Covid scandals have ruined his premiership and it looks like a disastrous no-deal Brexit is almost certainly incoming. Makes sense he will bugger off soon after and let someone else clear up the mess. Back to making hundreds of thousands writing for the DM, speaking at banks run by old school chums etc.

rosie39forever · 26/08/2020 10:45

Sunak has come from nowhere politically speaking, his ascension has been planned, Young and charismatic as well as intelligent and appealing to many demographics and as was said would be able to stand up to Starmer without relying in cheap scripted jokes.

notanothertakeaway · 26/08/2020 11:01

Boris will "get Brexit done", resign due to poor health from COVID-19, and leave others to tidy up the mess he's created

itsgettingweird · 26/08/2020 11:32

@rosie39forever

Cummings is grooming Sunak for pm, Boris will be gone by March.
I'd be happier with Sunak.

He may be a Tory whip boy but he has more element of human to him than the others.

The80sweregreat · 26/08/2020 11:41

The most upsetting thing for me is that the country will suffer so much yet it'll be someone other than Johnson who will have to pick up the pieces next year.
He'll be ok writing his memoirs and doing the talks rounds and the average person will be wondering what on earth happened ( regardless of who is P M by then)
They will also just blame the pandemic for it all as well to keep people on side.

netflixismysidehustle · 26/08/2020 11:41

What does Cummings even want?

Cummings has secured loads of government funding contracts for AI firms linked to Vote Leave. Having controlled Johnson, I think that controlling anybody with an online presence is next as that can lead to controlling Johnson's successors

netflixismysidehustle · 26/08/2020 11:43

[quote Starsabove1]@netflixismysidehustle he was having the haircuts, she was objecting to the unorthodox service being provided by the hairdresser.

But there were also issues about the person serving him drinks and the one interviewing him for articles which never appeared.

Allegedly.[/quote]
Haircuts ?! Hmm
Can't say that Carrie didn't know what she got herself into. I wonder if he's been loyal to Dilyn the dog?

SabrinaThwaite · 26/08/2020 11:45

Sunak is still very right wing (check out his voting record on retaining human rights / equality / welfare / EU citizens rights to remain etc) but at least appears relatively competent - at least compared to the rest of the Cabinet.

DGRossetti · 26/08/2020 11:46

The most upsetting thing for me is that the country will suffer so much

Upsetting ? The country has got exactly what it voted for. There should be street parades and floats and carnivals. It's a rare example of democracy delivering what the public wanted. We wanted a Tory government. We got a Tory government. And the Tory government we wanted is doing exactly what they said they would.

That's why all this talk of "needing votes" is a bit misplaced. Whoever the Tories have as leader for at least the next 4 years doesn't need a single vote from a single person. We will get who we are given, and damn well be grateful for it too.

Frogs and scorpions.

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