to think heels are now out of fashion for teens/young adults?

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Please say I'm right! I think heels are dated weapons of misogyny!

Phew, that feels better:

The gold standard in fashion trends is now love island seriously?!

The title of this thread was to think heels are now out of fashion for teens/young adults?

Given that some of the Love Islanders, particularly the female ones, go on to do 6 figure deals with fashion brands, based on the fact that what they wear on Instagram will be snapped up by the young'uns... Then yes, I do think that what happens on Love Island probably has an influence somewhere along the way

Also you do realise the premise of Suits is entirely fictional, right? It never claimed to be a documentary.

No way! Seriously? You mean people waste hundreds of thousands of dollars paying tuition fees and living expenses to go to Harvard when they could have just audited all the classes for nothing?! Get out of town! I had no idea.

What are you paying your paralegals, that they can afford to dress like Rachel Zane? I'm missing a trick here!

Incidentally, ever seen photos of Megan Markle's feet? She's had bunion surgery already.

I'm not a paralegal, btw. I'm the Pope.

@InDeoEstMeaFiducia

I'm not a paralegal, btw. I'm the Pope.

Olivia?😱

What are you paying your paralegals, that they can afford to dress like Rachel Zane? I'm missing a trick here!

Yes you are missing a trick. Other Stories, Zara, LK Bennet, Warehouse, French Connection if you want affordable workwear.

But not sure why m I’m bothering to respond you’re being deliberately obtuse. Maybe better to spend your time writing a realistic legal series where the drama centres on whether or not the firm goes paperless this year, rather than goading people on mumsnet and labelling other women’s style choices as “trashy”.

Lots of teens think love island is trash and against their feminist values! So definitely not ALL young people like it or watch it So

I am in legal profession and do not wear heels! And haven't done in years, very few people do that power dressing 80s thing now. I see lots of boots, flats, the odd block heel and kitten heel at a push.

Lots of teens think love island is trash and against their feminist values! So definitely not ALL young people like it or watch it

I never said they did.

But the fact is that people like Molly Mae Hague get paid hundreds of thousands of pounds by companies like Pretty Little Thing (her last contract was half a million quid I think). PLT wouldn't pay MMH this kind of money if they didn't know for a cast iron fact that she has an enormous influence on what people choose to spend their money on. And she does wear those big chunky trainers and boots, but she also wears strappy high heels a lot too.

So, like it or not, it's a fact that Love Island and similar is hugely influential. Sorry!

I can’t believe someone would say the way Rachel Zane (Meghan Markle) or Jessica Pearson dress is trashy I’d definitely say it’s classy and chic. No idea what your idea of classy would be then!

so Of course there is money from a some demographics to be made who think of Molly Mae as an inspiration, and you will see many teens that do not see her that way at all.
Pretty little thing has that market share in mind when they are making their choices, but to call it 'hugely influential' is stretching it way too far, because for many Love Island is at best is light entertainment and for others misogyny at its worst!

Either way we do not see women tottering around in bikinis so it hasn't been that influential one might argue, but Love Island has probably caused many more eating disorders than sales in heels.

I shiver at the word 'classy' it usually means the opposite is true!

I’m 25 and have never really worn heels. In fact I only own barefoot shoes! I think heels are terrible for your posture/feet and so uncomfortable. I am 5’3” so do see the appeal of being slightly higher up but it’s not worth it IMO. That said, I do have friends of my age who wear heels on nights out or formal occasions. None of them would wear heels to work though. There are some people older than me in my office with emergency heels for smart meetings in the same way that men only keep a tie in their desk drawer now and wouldn’t wear it unless necessary. I don’t even bother with that on the basis that I can do my job better if my feet don’t hurt!

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so Of course there is money from a some demographics to be made who think of Molly Mae as an inspiration, and you will see many teens that do not see her that way at all. Pretty little thing has that market share in mind when they are making their choices, but to call it 'hugely influential' is stretching it way too far, because for many Love Island is at best is light entertainment and for others misogyny at its worst!

Either way we do not see women tottering around in bikinis so it hasn't been that influential one might argue, but Love Island has probably caused many more eating disorders than sales in heels.

Again... The thread title was 'AIBU to think heels are now out of fashion for teens/young adults?'

You scoffed at the idea of Love Island having any influence on fashion, I argued that it does have an influence, a large one if the sums of money are anything to do by, and that given those women do wear heels, then the statement 'heels are out of fashion for teens/young adults' probably isn't accurate.

I never said that all young people like or are influenced by Love Island.🤷‍♀️

@Grobagsforever

39, never ever worn heels as they are out dated misogynistic wank badgery for the brainwashed.

Told both DD's I would be disappointed if they ever ruined their beautiful bodies by wearing them.

Glad to hear Gen Z are on board

Wow what a horrible thing to say to your children. Surely you should be encouraging them to have freedom of choice? I would have felt terribly let down had my parents expressed disappointed based on my taste in shoes.

Definitely an agenda on the later pages of this thread. The fashion might be (hideous and £££) chunky white trainers or DMs for now but heels will come back. I'm 30 and don't think heels are necessarily mumsy. Court shoes/ballet pumps maybe. Big platforms are definitely worn a lot less than when I was 20. But the barely-there strappy heels are still popular, heeled sandals etc. And of course Love Island influences fashion! A lot of the girls from it are now literally influencers, with hundreds of thousands (sometimes millions) of followers.

Another lawyer here too who finds the Rachel Zane tight slotted pencil skirts and stiletto look very old fashioned. Maybe it's still worn in the US? Or its because Suits is based on someone's perception of what women in legal offices wore 15 or 20 years ago? (yes, I was told in one interview for a trainee solicitor job 20 years ago that the dress code was skirt and smart heels and even then it was obvious that that particular dinosaur's days were numbered).

I remember being surprised at seeing Megan, looking lovely and incredibly smart but tottering around on stilettos at official functions and in heels at a polo match, so perhaps she got that from working on Suuts? I've seen Kate in them as well, but not so frequently.

@FinnyStory

If an "agenda" means wishing women didn't feel obliged to wear shoes that hurt, even damage their feet and restrict their ability to move, in order to look "right" in certain environments...probably.

This.

My DD has worn heels at a wedding - that's it. Otherwise only trainers.

Much like my clubbing days as a student and in my 20s in the 80s - I mostly wore DMs or ankle boots.

I worked in a city law firm in London between 2002 and 2007 and then in Sydney between 2007-2010 and most of us young solicitors wore trouser suits with blocky heeled boots because you tended to be rushing from meeting to court etc, carrying loads of documents and high heels would have just been crippling. I had one skirt suit and I used to wear that with low heeled shoes but not very often, the fashion was for trouser suits as I think we wanted to be taken seriously and skirt suits were a bit secretary style for us as we were in our early 20s and desperate to look older and more experienced!
The secretaries tended to go for that look of tight shirts and tight pencil skirts but most of the young solicitors just found you had to deal with endless low level sexual harassment if you wore outfits like that.

The stuff they wear in Suits is exactly how I imagine lawyers dress! All tight pencil skirts and stilettos! I'm quite disappointed if that's not the case....

I mean it might be in some firms, just not anyone that I knew. Because we didn’t want to be seen as sex objects - quite the opposite!

@Ozgirl75

I worked in a city law firm in London between 2002 and 2007 and then in Sydney between 2007-2010 and most of us young solicitors wore trouser suits with blocky heeled boots because you tended to be rushing from meeting to court etc, carrying loads of documents and high heels would have just been crippling. I had one skirt suit and I used to wear that with low heeled shoes but not very often, the fashion was for trouser suits as I think we wanted to be taken seriously and skirt suits were a bit secretary style for us as we were in our early 20s and desperate to look older and more experienced! The secretaries tended to go for that look of tight shirts and tight pencil skirts but most of the young solicitors just found you had to deal with endless low level sexual harassment if you wore outfits like that.

Yeah, wouldn't want to look like those slutty secretaries now would you

Fuck me op. You are a piece of work 😅.
Stop being so anti...

Some women wear heels for them selves. Some to impress other women. Some to make men look. And some because it is more comfy than flats.

And some simply because they like the look of them. So ducking what..

You prefer flats? Great! Wear them. But dont go on some crazy anti heels rant, whilst embrassing yourself in the process

Dont @ me

I don't believe I've gone on a 'crazy rant' at all 🤣🤣🤣

My DH works for a large male dominated company on a large site, and he said that a lot of the young women who work in the admin/HR side of things, dress for work every day like they are going for a night out. To the extent the company had to bring in a 'no backless tops' rule!

I mean it might be in some firms, just not anyone that I knew. Because we didn’t want to be seen as sex objects - quite the opposite!

I think it depends on the area of law really. In the office I tend to wear jumpsuits, culottes, cigarette trousers, looser dresses (in summer) etc. But on court days (litigation lawyer) since I have to dress formally, I power dress in a similar way to Jessica Pearson (but with a blazer). I don’t think it makes me or any other women that dresses that way look like a “sex object”- that’s a really demeaning thing to say.

Oh but heels-wise I gave up the stilettos a long time ago. Wear low court shoes (max 3 inch heel)- so Jessica Pearson with more comfortable heels