to think heels are now out of fashion for teens/young adults?

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Please say I'm right! I think heels are dated weapons of misogyny!

Phew, that feels better:

I have massive feet. I look like an idiot in the pretty trainers fashion. Shame because some are so cute!

Don’t people of all ages wear these?

If course, but MN us one of the firm bastions of casual ageism, so dressing for your age, and othering 'old ladies' is unfortunately very much alive and kicking.

My DD wants heels, but even when she has them she rarely wears them (couple of pairs of ankle boots with either wedge or very chunky, neither particularly high, heels have been worn). She is drawn to them to try on, but always decides against them.

I rarely wear heels, but as we have much the same size feet she does tend to nick my only comfy pair

My DC have the best feet. So untouched by uncomfortable shoes!They are all soft and I am envious of them!

I gave up heels a few years ago as well but I do like sandals which are terrible for your feet

@Friendsoftheearth

hastings quite a defensive post, seriously I have teen girls (16) and they would not be seen dead in heels, nor would any of their friends. They see heels as a 'mum thing' to wear (even though I don't wear them either!) and very out of date. If you want to wear them then do, but you can't deny the trend for wearing comfortable shoes is happening - I am not speaking for anyone just listening to my teen actually, and respecting her tastes.

They are a select bunch of 16 year olds yet you’re trying to extrapolate their habits to everyone in the “teen-young adult” demographic. It’s a weak argument - what if they’re the ones out of the ordinary?

We have spent most of 2020 in lockdown - where exactly do you expect these 16 year olds to go wearing heels? They’re not even of legal clubbing age yet. With lockdown they’re not going to prom or birthday events like parties or sneaking into clubs/bars etc so of course they’re spending most of their time in trainers. As are most people thanks to lockdown.

I think trainers have taken over daywear and said so previously, but it’s tone deaf to state that people my age do not wear heels at all. Who exactly do you think misguided, plt, TOPSHOP, Zara, oh polly etc target demographic are? And why do they all stock heels if they’re very out of date?

If they are actually saying heels are “a mum thing” to wear, they are definitely basing it upon the shoes people of “mum” age wear rather than the heels people of my age wear.

Not everyone can wear a boho dress with white trainers. My friend is 5’10 with massive feet and (her words) looks like a man in drag if she tries to pull this off 😂

Where I live it’s acceptable for even OLD people to wear sports lux/gym look!
Trainers are in, hugely. I’m 40 and I own more trainers than I own heels. DC are 18 and 16 and only own flats for school and trainers

Nope no one I have ever seen and I do a school run to a school of 900 girls have ever worn heels, not even to the balls. Both girls have a huge cross section of friends, not one will wear heels. That was well before pre lockdown and continues to this day.

You can wear what you want, we all can, but most of us can see a bigger shift happening in younger people today, just an observation and no need for you to take it so personally!

Is fashion what the people wear or what the trendsetters wear? I know there's a more modern term, but it escapes me for the moment!

I mean Towie types and WAGs are still wearing them, I'm not sure you see flats on the red carpet (?) but they're not seen on real people like they used to be.

I just can't imagine wearing anything that reduces my enjoyment of the day/evening or my ability to get about quickly, should I need/want to but I would have felt it necessary in the past in order to be appropriately dressed for some occasions.

TBH I thought the change in me was because I'm past caring but young women seem to have got the message that there's no need to be uncomfortable/restricted too.

I think they have gone out of fashion a bit but I personally think it’s a shame.

I never wore them during the day unless I was at a wedding or something (always wore pumps to work) but I did wear them in the evenings.

I often see women now with really pretty dresses/ outfits on during the day and they’re often spoiled by massive, white, clunky trainers. Like, it just doesn’t go at all? I don’t suggest heels in that instance but a nice pump or flip flop would look better IMO.

And re nights out, I still wear a low heel if it’s a boozy night in city bars. The outfits I’d wear just wouldn’t look good in a flat shoe, I’m only 5’3 too and look much taller (obviously) and slimmer in a small heel. Having said that, I have worn smart/ glitzy pumps out in the evening too actually, but it depends on the outfit.

For Christmas dos for instance where people are often in sparkly numbers, I just think flats lessen the ‘glam’ a bit, particularly if they’re white bloody trainers or massive, clunky doc martens!

I’m watching Suits atm and I know it was filmed a few years ago but the women actors are obviously playing ‘corporate’ figures, the outfits are to die for and they’re always in heels. Flats would just look wrong. Do hot shot city lawyers who dress very classily really walk about in trainers/ flats?

Yeah I also get the impression that some people have some sort of agenda here?

I get that trainers/DMs etc are in fashion a lot amongst young ones at the moment (as they were in the 90s) but for nights out in your Boohoo/Pretty Little Thing dress, heels are very much still a thing aren't they? I suppose not so much with the cycling shorts and a blazer look (WTF is that about - has that actually transferred into real life?!) that is chunky trainers but heels very much still have their place.

All the Love Island girls wore them every night when they all got dressed up to go out (in the villa 😂) didn't they, and also when they were stood in bikinis at the start of the series waiting to be picked, they all stand there in a bikini and heels not trainers?

The whole 'skyscraper power heels' thing is probably quite dated, but I don't think they are going anywhere generally. As for myself, I hardly ever wear them now, only for a very special occasion like a wedding or posh Christmas party or something. But on a normal evening out now I would wear metallic brogues or 'glam' style Kurt Geiger or Carvela type trainers (which I'm sure some MNers would think tacky but hey ho!) . Unfortunately my legs are very short and quite fat so heels probably do look better, but I can't be arsed anymore. I do have a pair of glittery 70s style super high chunky platform sandals that I love, but I have hardly any occasion to wear them these days

I always wore heels on a night out then generally came home in bare feet.

I’m 40 and love the trainers and DMs with dresses look, I have a pair of furry lined DMs and I adore them.

Do hot shot city lawyers who dress very classily really walk about in trainers/ flats?

Yes, plenty wear flats or boots and not those trashy outfits in 'Suits', which is actually a quite stupid series based on an entirely ridiculous premise.

If an "agenda" means wishing women didn't feel obliged to wear shoes that hurt, even damage their feet and restrict their ability to move, in order to look "right" in certain environments...probably.

The gold standard in fashion trends is now love island seriously?!

I didn't wear heels until my mid 20s, when I got a proper job. I'm on my feet all day and walk round a lot, so.I try to wear more flats, but a lot of outfits just don't look right.I.have brogues, but even being tall, brogues and skirts make my legs look.dumpy. Ballet pumps hurt. Loafers don't work with certain dress types/ shapes, and wtf do.you wear with black.tights? I'm over 40, so can't get away with some things, but I.don't want to.descend into the frumpy of so.many of my colleagues.

Don’t people of all ages wear these? My mother is in her 70s and has been wearing Birkenstocks most of her life.

@TheNewLook

Except I didn’t say that older women don’t wear them (I love my birkies and I’m in my early 30s), neither did I say that young people invented the look! Why do people on mumsnet respond to statements that were never made?

I was simply warning all the older people on this thread who seem desperate to wear flats just because it’s in fashion that only certain types of flats are in fashion. No good grabbing your ballet pumps - they are not in fashion among teen/early 20s demographic.

But the main point I was trying to make is that this whole thread is stupid - heels aren’t dated and they never will be. Just because Kendall Jenner isn’t wearing them (though she does if you actually look at what she wears when she goes out out), doesn’t mean other women have to throw theirs out.

@InDeoEstMeaFiducia

Do hot shot city lawyers who dress very classily really walk about in trainers/ flats?

Yes, plenty wear flats or boots and not those trashy outfits in 'Suits', which is actually a quite stupid series based on an entirely ridiculous premise.

EVERYONE in there was somewhat functioning alcoholic👀

@SchrodingersImmigrant it is true that your feet hurt less the more you've had to drink

Oh, yes, that, too, Schrodinger. The whole thing, too, that he audited at law school. Yeah, right! PMSL. That so happens, and at Harvard. Haahaahaa. Then the bullshit just keeps flying, because lawyers never have to give their bar number on anything .

The clothes on the women, sigh.

[quote FinnyStory]@SchrodingersImmigrant it is true that your feet hurt less the more you've had to drink [/quote]
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I wear heels all the time in work. I wear them because I like them, that simple really.

Yes, plenty wear flats or boots and not those trashy outfits in 'Suits', which is actually a quite stupid series based on an entirely ridiculous premise.

You do you, but I’m a lawyer too and dress similarly to the women in Suits and wouldn’t call my workwear trashy. Don’t slag off something just because it’s not in your taste. The styles worn by Jessica Pearson and occasionally Rachel Zane are classic fitted formal wear and entirely appropriate for City work, as are smart brogues and flats if that’s your “thing”.

Also you do realise the premise of Suits is entirely fictional, right? It never claimed to be a documentary.

I'm 5'0 so love heels. Always a block heel though, never stilettos. Wear what makes you feel good.

EVERYONE in there was somewhat functioning alcoholic

To be honest that’s probably the only accurate thing in the series