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I don’t think I am but how to handle. Wedding fiasco

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PrincessCatapus · 19/08/2020 01:17

Close relative getting married soon. Up and down relationship but things are going well and eager to keep things good.

Got married myself last year and had B2B as bridesmaid, paid for dresses (let them pick their own style but said about colours), didn’t care about hair/makeup/shoes etc. B2B chose to have makeup done professionally whilst my MoH did mine. All fine, no issues at wedding and she was a great support on the day.

B2B getting married next year in very expensive place and the whole thing is very extravagant but each to their own. I’m trying to be very enthusiastic and supportive and genuinely do want her to have the best day possible. However, costs are becoming a bit much. Been informed that we need to have hair and makeup done at our cost to the tune of around £100. On top of that been guilted into £150 accommodation despite it actually being close to home (have a child so easier to take home) as they’ll have to cover rooms not used and lots of guests have said they’ll go home so she’s stressing about that. Been told we have to buy dress, which is looking at around £100. There’s a gift registry we’ll have to buy a gift from. Drinks at expensive place. Never mind suits for DH and DS’s. Looks like there’s going to be at least 2 maybe 3 hen do’s.

We could technically afford it, but we have a small amount of debt to pay off from our wedding, and live within our means. Want to start saving for a house too and the money this wedding is going to cost would be a lovely holiday for the four of us (we can’t afford one this year regardless of COVID and only managed a cheap staycation last year). Would also note my DPs offered to contribute a hefty sum towards a family holiday as a wedding gift for this year. Obviously COVID hit and they were keen to book earlier in the year so they could afford other relatives wedding (paying for v expensive dress and perhaps more). We’ve told them not to worry and to forget about it. Genuinely don’t mind but stings a bit when weighing up how the money that needs to be spent on this wedding could be spent on a holiday. I’m also loathed to pay more on hair and makeup than I could stomach paying for my own wedding. She needs enough people to be able to have the person she wants but it’s the same with the rooms too. I just feel as though we’re inadvertently subsidising this extravagant wedding after we budgeted accordingly for ours and didn’t ask for anything from anyone as didn’t feel it was fair to expect people to be worrying about money just to attend our wedding.

Also a bit peeved that B2B is getting help from family that we didn’t (we did reject any financial help in fairness) but they’ve now been saying how they’ve managed to start saving for a house and can’t help but feel like we’re sacrificing a family holiday to pay for their expensive wedding whilst they’re still having extravagant birthday gifts/saving for a house etc that we can’t afford.

Sorry for being vague but would really like some advice on what to do. DH thinks we should suck it up as want to keep the relationship good, as do I, really really badly. But I cannot help but feel really put out by all of it. It just doesn’t sit right to keep saying yes to the detriment of my children.

Can I say no? Without damaging the relationship? Or should I just suck this up to keep everything ticking along smoothly.

Another factor is the other bridesmaid and I have spoken and she’s going to go along with whatever I do. She can’t afford it either but also wants to keep the peace and get the feeling she’s thinking if I say yes she’ll look awful if she’s saying no despite the fact I’m dead against it.

OP posts:
AnneLovesGilbert · 19/08/2020 08:27

If this is the price to stay in a fragile relationship with this woman (also assuming it’s your sister, it would be helpful if you could just say so) then you can’t afford it.

Your thinking is odd, probably as the result of a dysfunctional family dynamic. If you fell out with a friend and were trying to make up with her but she’d only agree if you gave her say £509 in cash, that you couldn’t afford because you were already in debt, you’d surely, hopefully, say no. Take the wedding element out. Her staying sweet is conditional on you giving her your money. That’s batshit.

Wexone · 19/08/2020 08:29

i am sorry, i am getting married next year, i am paying for the bridsmaid dresses, for their hair and make up to be done on the day aswell as the day after (its my treat to them and have got a good deal for the two days) They will buy their own shoes and jewellery. I am also paying for them to stay the night the night of the wedding. There is an option fo them to stay the second night as we have a party the day after, they have to pay that night but its up to them. You need to have a seriouse chat with the otehr bridesmaid on this and say that its not ok. I dunno which country you are in but this is not the way it works in the UK or Ireland. Then sit down with the Bride and have a frank honest enough dicussion with her, i have a good job and more money than my bridesmaids however i am conciouse of the fact that some peole can not afford things, so hence i have taken this in to account for my own wedding and helped out when i can, not expecting them to pay for two much. If it means that you dont be a bridemaid that may be the case but you can not carry on with this

CreatureComfy · 19/08/2020 08:29

I agree with other PPs that you need to be honest, in a calm way - explain that you can’t afford all the expense and maybe give an idea of how much you can afford. It seems astonishingly cheeky to expect guests (or bridesmaids) to take on so much of the cost of what is basically someone else’s party. If someone wants a huge wedding, 3 hen parties, pro make up, etc, fine if they gave budgeted for it, but definitely not okay to pressurise others to fund it all. If they want their wedding subsidised, for they should ask for cash instead of presents. Even worse to do this in the current situation where there are almost certainly guests who’ve lost jobs or are in difficult financial circumstances due to COVID.

Pinklynx · 19/08/2020 08:29

I agree with PPs

It's not your responsibility to keep the relationship going at a cost to yourself and your family. Your responsibility ends with yourself, your children and to a lesser extent your DH. Put them first. Your DSis is quite clearly putting herself first. So should you.

HollowTalk · 19/08/2020 08:30

So you bought her bridesmaid dress and now you have to buy your own? That doesn't sound right! And who the hell has 3 hen do's?

Chloemol · 19/08/2020 08:30

Just be honest and tell her you will pay for the dress, will do your own make up, won’t be staying as you are so near home and child sleeps better at home, that you will only be attending one hen

Tell her you still have debt to pay off from your wedding ( hopefully it will make the point to her) and can’t afford everything and you are sure she understands

IlovecatsyesIdo · 19/08/2020 08:31

Hi OP,

I think your friend is asking far too much and is straying into bridezilla territory here.
The other bridesmaid could be a big help if you can discuss with her what you are both going to say maybe together, try and put it as tactfully as possible. Can you use Covid as an excuse, being concerned about job security and not knowing if your DH will have a bonus? Not that you should have to explain your finances anyway.

Hotel - You can’t justify the expense when you live very nearby and you have children to think of who will sleep much better in their own beds. You are also thinking of the other guests and noise from children or some such excuse!

Make up - You can’t justify the expense and also worry about your ‘sensitive’ skin, much better to use all your own makeup, brushes, etc which you know won’t cause you any skin irritation..... something like you are thinking of the photo’s!

Hen do’s - You can only afford one, as PP said ask B2B to say which one she’d prefer you to be at. Offer to help with organisation and/or just be super enthusiastic about it.

Present - Can you go for the cheapest present on the list or go for some kind of handmade type effort? Something which shows you have put a lot of thought into it, something meaningful to her and her H2B.
Dress - If you are expected to pay for the dress then you could say this cost coupled with the present and one hen do is the most you can afford to pay for. Plus you have DH and children to buy outfits for too.

Don’t be a walkover OP. A genuine friendship really shouldn’t be such a difficult thing to maintain. You should be able to honestly say to her the costs are beyond your means. But you really want to be involved, however you understand if she would prefer it if you aren’t her bridesmaid, no hard feelings, etc. Put the onus back on her in a kindly way. If she takes it badly you have tried your best. You can’t put your own family finances into difficulty just because your friend wants a ‘dream’ wedding partially paid for by the guests!
Good luck.

Lyricallie · 19/08/2020 08:31

If you're in the UK and this person is your sister, maybe speak to your mum and be like hey does X know the bridesmaids don't normally pay for dresses etc? Maybe she doesn't realise?

Otherwise just say you can't afford it and don't get into your finances. It's none of her business.

I'm currently sorting out my rescheduled wedding and it is a bit one with a ceilidh and a lot of bridesmaids but I'm paying for their dress, make up, hair, jewelry, hotel the night before and I have left them to their own devices the night of, either they can go home or book one of the hotels in the area and if they're still there I've organised for everyone to come to breakfast the next day.

This is just standard across all my friends the only thing I've paid for as a bridesmaid is hotel the night of and the hen do which I don't mind as I love my friends and a weekend away/night out.

Although now I've written that she should as she was your bridesmaid. Has she been a bridesmaid for anyone else as chances are everything she got was paid for by another bride. If she has never been a bridesmaid I might be slightly more forgiving and hope it's ignorance. If it's not yea I wouldn't be paying for all that.

I think the general rule in America (where bridesmaids buy their dresses) is they're given a parameter like can everyone buy a green dress but they have power over the price and fit etc.

SlipperyLizard · 19/08/2020 08:33

You seem to be treading on eggshells round your relative while she feels free to make increasingly ridiculous financial demands so she can have her wedding without paying for her choices - why is it for you to suck it up and keep the peace when she has no regard for you?

I’d tell her plainly that you won’t be paying for the hotel or makeup and that if you buy the dress you’ll consider it your wedding gift to her. If that ruins your relationship then it wasn’t one worth having.

YorkshireTeaIsTheBest · 19/08/2020 08:35

@IlovecatsyesIdo

Hi OP,

I think your friend is asking far too much and is straying into bridezilla territory here.
The other bridesmaid could be a big help if you can discuss with her what you are both going to say maybe together, try and put it as tactfully as possible. Can you use Covid as an excuse, being concerned about job security and not knowing if your DH will have a bonus? Not that you should have to explain your finances anyway.

Hotel - You can’t justify the expense when you live very nearby and you have children to think of who will sleep much better in their own beds. You are also thinking of the other guests and noise from children or some such excuse!

Make up - You can’t justify the expense and also worry about your ‘sensitive’ skin, much better to use all your own makeup, brushes, etc which you know won’t cause you any skin irritation..... something like you are thinking of the photo’s!

Hen do’s - You can only afford one, as PP said ask B2B to say which one she’d prefer you to be at. Offer to help with organisation and/or just be super enthusiastic about it.

Present - Can you go for the cheapest present on the list or go for some kind of handmade type effort? Something which shows you have put a lot of thought into it, something meaningful to her and her H2B.
Dress - If you are expected to pay for the dress then you could say this cost coupled with the present and one hen do is the most you can afford to pay for. Plus you have DH and children to buy outfits for too.

Don’t be a walkover OP. A genuine friendship really shouldn’t be such a difficult thing to maintain. You should be able to honestly say to her the costs are beyond your means. But you really want to be involved, however you understand if she would prefer it if you aren’t her bridesmaid, no hard feelings, etc. Put the onus back on her in a kindly way. If she takes it badly you have tried your best. You can’t put your own family finances into difficulty just because your friend wants a ‘dream’ wedding partially paid for by the guests!
Good luck.

Yes, this absolutely this.

I didn''t pay for a hairdresser, make up or anything on my wedding for myself. I'm not paying to have it done at someone else's.

Just say: this and if necessary point out that you didn't pay for all these luxuries at your own wedding and are not paying for them as a guest.

Thecobwebsarewinning · 19/08/2020 08:41

I don’t think there is any better wording than the honest truth ‘I can’t afford it’ or ‘we don’t have that much money’.

unicornpower · 19/08/2020 08:46

I always think its so cheeky when couples book a wedding and all the rooms are included in the price, because the rooms are usually expensive then guests are told the NEED to book rooms there or the couple lose money. Unless you're 100% sure you can shift the rooms then why do it?

Personally i would be telling her (nicely) I can afford the room or to pay for your dress. If she is dictating the make up then she should be funding it. What is it about weddings that make people so selfish? None of my bridesmaids stayed at the venue but one is getting married next year and is guilt tripping us all into staying at hers (We won't be as its a 20 minute drive home).

Eddielzzard · 19/08/2020 08:47

Nope. Don't go over what you can afford.

I like TenShortStories' plan very much. And give her the option that you aren't bridesmaid. If she's your sister, she's probably going to kick off. Brace yourself, because there's no way to avoid this. And your kids shouldn't be missing out on their holiday for the sake of your makeup.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 19/08/2020 08:52

People keep on saying it’s a friendship when the OP said it’s a close relative. I’m guessing a sister or a SIL like a PP said.

KeepingPlain · 19/08/2020 08:53

She's having three hen dos?! How did I miss that?! Jesus does she think she is a princess or something? Tell her she should have thrones for her reception, keep in the theme of royalty. Hmm

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 19/08/2020 08:57

This doesn't sound like a friendship OP. It sounds like a weird power dynamic where you are prepared to spend hundreds of pounds to stop her becoming unreasonably upset. She was bridesmaid for you and you treated her one way and she is now treating you like shit expecting you to fall in line with her unreasonable demands and choices. Just tell her. You can't afford it. If she goes ballistic then I think that's on her and I wouldn't be making any more effort to keep this 'friendship'

Malbecfan · 19/08/2020 09:04

Does this close relative know that actually you haven't taken any money from your parents? They may think (wrongly) that your DPs paid for yours so therefore, she gets them to pay for hers.

heathergem · 19/08/2020 09:04

@Anniegetyourgun

She wants everyone's make up the same? Like any person but her will even notice.

Exactly. I had no idea this was even a thing. It's not as if identical makeup will suit everyone unless they have identical faces! Now there's an idea: wedding themed masks (Covid safe). Dragons' Den here I come...

Given everyone has different hair/eye/skin tones, no ones makeup will be the same anyway.

B2B sounds controlling and entitled.

DilemmaADay · 19/08/2020 09:04

My rule is normally 'bride wants, bride pays' so anything dictated by the bride (dress, makeup style etc) should be funded by the bride herself.
I would say 'Hello b2b, I'm really looking forward to your big day coming up on..... I've done a rough calculation of costs so I can put some money aside, and its come out at £.... This is quite a big chunk of our earnings, so wondered if I could stay at home after the wedding, as I live so close, it would be easy for me to head home and be back in the morning for (insert any morning breakfasts event here). Can have a chat over the phone if you,d rather? Have a lovely day "

im5050 · 19/08/2020 09:05

She’s being a grade A Cxxxx
She will get her make up / hair free If she gets enough of you to pay for their own
Likewise with the rooms she had a set price for the wedding based on the rooms being sold
The less rooms sold the more her wedding will cost her
Probably the same for the hen do
Don’t pay for her wedding

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/08/2020 09:06

Is there any way I can word it that will be better than I can’t afford it?

I really don't think there is; the alternative's to comment on her ridiculous extravagance and I don't suppose that would be well received either

Frankly it sounds as if you're almost being blackmailed into paying to "keep the peace" and I wonder why you feel that way?

Bramleyapples13 · 19/08/2020 09:08

I was asked to be a Maid of Honour to my best friend some years ago. I was a Police Officer at the time and we only had 200 hours annual leave a year. It was also my 30th in the summer. The bride wanted two hen dos and expected everyone she invited to be at both, regardless of cost, their personal circumstances etc. I obviously pointed out that not everyone would be able to go however much they would like to. This included myself as I couldn't use nearly 150 hours of my annual leave on two hen dos and the wedding when I had my 30th and needed time off from an incredibly stressful job for the rest of the year. As it turned out, I was right about the other women and not all being able to go on both hen dos (surprisingly!) and the bride doesn't speak to them any more. I was told that as I hadn't 'stepped up' when needed someone else was planning the hen dos. In the end, I never received an invitation to them, or to the wedding. She never told me she had un-made me maid of honour and I didn't go to the wedding. To this day, we haven't spoken, and she still doesn't know I actually planned both hen dos for her even if I couldn't go on both and asked if she was okay for me to just go on one instead.

Friends are brilliant. But only you decide what you're comfortable with and shouldn't feel shoe horned into making a decision that financially makes things difficult for you and your family. If she thought a bit about you as a friend, she should understand. It's her big day and very important to her, but you shouldn't feel as you do about it. And if she doesn't, then move on. I realised my friend wasn't worth it, and her assumptions about people doing what she wanted and then discarding them when they were unable to showed she was just selfish and silly.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 19/08/2020 09:09

Sadly, this is what happens when a wedding is looked on as a "production" rather than two people lovingly joining their lives together, and celebrating that with their friends and families.

We had a small, budget wedding and it was lovely!

I've been to weddings big and small, expensive and budget, and can honestly say that the most moving ones were those where the couple obviously only wanted to be with each other and weren't micro-managing everything.

You don't need to spend a fortune to have a beautiful wedding - yes, it's a lot more work if you can't hand all the bits and bobs over to everyone else to do for you, but it's fun to do it yourself, and everyone is more relaxed and has a better day when they aren't worrying about costs etc.

I know it's the "Bride's Day", but honestly! You have to think of other people, too - surely you want everyone to enjoy your wedding?

If you mention your budget constraints when the other BM is there, as you say it gives her the opportunity to voice her reservations, too. She may be even tighter financially than you are, and worrying about it.

Also - if it was the other way round - would she pull all of this cash for you? Would she have been prepared to pay all of this out for YOUR wedding? Would she return the compliment when the other BM gets married? I have a feeling she wouldn't.

MoreListeningLessChatting · 19/08/2020 09:10

It's awful being invited to a wedding that costs so much if you can't really afford it. You say you could, but at the expense of your debts and a holiday. That is not right and a B2B shouldn't expect that.

Stay at home if that suits your child and is close - it's not up to you to subsidise her expensive hotel choices.
Do your own hair - don't let someone dictate what you spend on your hair - if they pay their say - if you have to pay then don't do it

Seriously is this where the word 'bridezilla' came from - demand, demand, demand...... it sucks the fun out of weddings - cannot abide these 'look at me' type weddings...

SchadenfreudePersonified · 19/08/2020 09:11

Friends are brilliant. But only you decide what you're comfortable with and shouldn't feel shoe horned into making a decision that financially makes things difficult for you and your family. If she thought a bit about you as a friend, she should understand. It's her big day and very important to her, but you shouldn't feel as you do about it. And if she doesn't, then move on. I realised my friend wasn't worth it, and her assumptions about people doing what she wanted and then discarding them when they were unable to showed she was just selfish and silly.

Wise words from Bramley

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