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I don’t think I am but how to handle. Wedding fiasco

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PrincessCatapus · 19/08/2020 01:17

Close relative getting married soon. Up and down relationship but things are going well and eager to keep things good.

Got married myself last year and had B2B as bridesmaid, paid for dresses (let them pick their own style but said about colours), didn’t care about hair/makeup/shoes etc. B2B chose to have makeup done professionally whilst my MoH did mine. All fine, no issues at wedding and she was a great support on the day.

B2B getting married next year in very expensive place and the whole thing is very extravagant but each to their own. I’m trying to be very enthusiastic and supportive and genuinely do want her to have the best day possible. However, costs are becoming a bit much. Been informed that we need to have hair and makeup done at our cost to the tune of around £100. On top of that been guilted into £150 accommodation despite it actually being close to home (have a child so easier to take home) as they’ll have to cover rooms not used and lots of guests have said they’ll go home so she’s stressing about that. Been told we have to buy dress, which is looking at around £100. There’s a gift registry we’ll have to buy a gift from. Drinks at expensive place. Never mind suits for DH and DS’s. Looks like there’s going to be at least 2 maybe 3 hen do’s.

We could technically afford it, but we have a small amount of debt to pay off from our wedding, and live within our means. Want to start saving for a house too and the money this wedding is going to cost would be a lovely holiday for the four of us (we can’t afford one this year regardless of COVID and only managed a cheap staycation last year). Would also note my DPs offered to contribute a hefty sum towards a family holiday as a wedding gift for this year. Obviously COVID hit and they were keen to book earlier in the year so they could afford other relatives wedding (paying for v expensive dress and perhaps more). We’ve told them not to worry and to forget about it. Genuinely don’t mind but stings a bit when weighing up how the money that needs to be spent on this wedding could be spent on a holiday. I’m also loathed to pay more on hair and makeup than I could stomach paying for my own wedding. She needs enough people to be able to have the person she wants but it’s the same with the rooms too. I just feel as though we’re inadvertently subsidising this extravagant wedding after we budgeted accordingly for ours and didn’t ask for anything from anyone as didn’t feel it was fair to expect people to be worrying about money just to attend our wedding.

Also a bit peeved that B2B is getting help from family that we didn’t (we did reject any financial help in fairness) but they’ve now been saying how they’ve managed to start saving for a house and can’t help but feel like we’re sacrificing a family holiday to pay for their expensive wedding whilst they’re still having extravagant birthday gifts/saving for a house etc that we can’t afford.

Sorry for being vague but would really like some advice on what to do. DH thinks we should suck it up as want to keep the relationship good, as do I, really really badly. But I cannot help but feel really put out by all of it. It just doesn’t sit right to keep saying yes to the detriment of my children.

Can I say no? Without damaging the relationship? Or should I just suck this up to keep everything ticking along smoothly.

Another factor is the other bridesmaid and I have spoken and she’s going to go along with whatever I do. She can’t afford it either but also wants to keep the peace and get the feeling she’s thinking if I say yes she’ll look awful if she’s saying no despite the fact I’m dead against it.

OP posts:
MoreListeningLessChatting · 19/08/2020 09:12

Sadly, this is what happens when a wedding is looked on as a "production" rather than two people lovingly joining their lives together, and celebrating that with their friends and families.

THIS - 100% - productions are so tacky

Phbq · 19/08/2020 09:16

What about saying that your husbands bonus isn’t happening this year and you can’t commit to extra expenses.

You WILL regret it if you end up paying for everything she wants.

Jeremyironsnothing · 19/08/2020 09:19

That bonus isn't available money. It's earmarked to pay your debts off and go towards a family wedding.

You can't afford it all full stop.
"i couldn't even afford makeup for my own wedding- let alone yours, much as I love you and want to. Perhaps it's better if I come as a regular guest instead or shall we see how we can do it with x budget. Bottom line is we can't afford to spend all that"

Jeremyironsnothing · 19/08/2020 09:19

Handily holiday - not wedding

Jeremyironsnothing · 19/08/2020 09:19

Fgs- family

FannieMae84 · 19/08/2020 09:20

i think it's ridiculous to put you, as a guest and a friend, in this situation.

as to just keeping quiet and sucking it up, where does it end?

it's a bit different to spending a little bit more than planned... but this sounds extravagant and she's taking the piss by demanding that you spend your cash on her wants like this.

i'd use the snippets of how to frame the conversation that have previously been posted.. the shit sandwich...

i.e.

  1. It's going to be an amazing wedding!
  2. I can't afford what you're expecting - how would you like to proceed (i don't do X or I step down)
  3. It's going to be an amazing wedding!

Don't try and soften the 2nd point; it's only going to be harder later. Really, your DH and other friend have done you a disservice by advising you to keep quiet - this would have been so much easier if it had been nipped in the bud the momennt it became clear her expectations were to spend £££s of your cash!

Emeraldshamrock · 19/08/2020 09:22

Yanbu. The cost of celebrating your friends wedding is ridiculous but not unusually these days. I don't know how she isn't embarrassed expecting so much from BM's I think it is very selfish to not consider others finances in your dream wedding.
I done it all for my Dsis in Marbella it costs us thousands for flights accommodation gifts clothes, I'll never do it again.
Given your update I'd be honest and say it is too much.

thepeopleversuswork · 19/08/2020 09:22

Agree with MoreListeningLessChatting. This bratty self indulgence over weddings makes me nauseous. Tacky and selfish in the extreme.

It’s utterly ridiculous for them to insist that you spend money on professional makeup and an overnight stay if you can’t afford it.

You need to stand your ground on this now and own your decision.

Sunshineandflipflops · 19/08/2020 09:25

Who will even know if the bridesmaid's make up is all the same?! That's ridiculous!

When I got married, my mum made the bridesmaid's dresses, I bought the shoes and paid for the hair. One of my bridesmaids did mine and the other bridesmaids and her own make up. I did get a 'trial' make up thing done but hated it as I didn't look like me so just bought some of the make up they used and my friend did a much better job as she knew me.

My hen do was also a night out in a nearby city that was affordable for everyone.

When I was a bridesmaid at her wedding, we were asked to buy our own dresses but they were about £50 from monsoon. That's all we were asked to pay for, apart from our rooms if we wanted to stay but there was no pressure to at all.

Personally, I would rather have those I love at my wedding and have them spend nothing than not come because they feel they can't afford to. I would feel like the worst friend.

Your wedding is a very special day and time for YOU. Not for everyone else!

Rainbowqueeen · 19/08/2020 09:26

Fanniemaes approach is perfect.

Lots of compliments plus giving her a choice ie you step down as BM or tailor the role to your budget.
Do that

peanutsandpinenuts · 19/08/2020 09:27

@PrincessCatapus you have to sit down and have a really diplomatic chat with your friend. The alternative is holding a lot of resentment around your friends wedding, which will probably ruin your enjoyment a bit, and not getting a holiday for your family next year.

@TenShortStories has a really good format for having this conversation. That having a time limit (ie say you have somewhere else you need to be by xx time) is a good idea too.

It can be really tough when it comes to people's weddings but you shouldn't let a desire to 'not rock the boat' mean that you are out of pocket by hundreds.

ineedaholidaynow · 19/08/2020 09:27

Have I read it right that your DPs were going to give you money for a holiday as a wedding present but now can’t afford to as paying for, I assume your sister’s, wedding. And on top of this your sister is expecting you to pay towards various things for her wedding too.

I would just say no and if it wrecks the relationship so be it.

LeopardPrintKnickers · 19/08/2020 09:29

It's always so hard when there's a relationship where there's a dominant person and one with less power, which is what it sounds like here.

You say it's a close relative, so your sister or your DH's sister? Could another family member - her mum or dad - speak up on your behalf, and explain to her the difficult position you're in and how you don't want to upset her by not taking part, but...?

Failing that, you do need to work out what your bottom line is. I don't think you can justifiably include your kids clothes or DH's suit for the wedding - you'd be buying those even if you were a guest, but everything else is simply insane.

Giving her the benefit of the doubt, she clearly feels that her wedding is everyone's priority, not just hers, and a gentle reminder that actually for your circumstances, a hotel stay, make up artist, multiple trips for her hen do and everything else is just a step too far.

Good luck!

popsydoodle4444 · 19/08/2020 09:29

So the B2B wants you to paid £200+ (I'm assuming you'll have to shell out for shoes too) to make her wedding photos look good.

I think it's damn cheeky to ask someone to be a bridesmaid and then tell them to paid up for the privilege.

I'd say no to the room and hair and makeup artist and I'd also offer to pay for the dress as a wedding gift not buy an additional gift too.

Berthatydfil · 19/08/2020 09:32

You need to speak with her
B2b I was thrilled an honoured to be asked to be part of your special day, and I have agonised over this but I’m just to able to commit to the financial costs of your special day so I need to bow out of being your bridesmaid as I don’t want to let you down on your special day but there is no way I can afford it and I know how important things like the bms dresses hair and make up are to you. I have looked at my finances again and again and even with dhs bonus we cant
stretch to it. I’m so sorry.

Either she will kick off insist you get into debt etc and emotionally blackmail you in which case she’s no friend of yours or she will offer to compromise on the costs.

Tackle it now as it will only fester and it will ruin your relationship anyway.

Berthatydfil · 19/08/2020 09:33

Sorry missing a not
I’m just not able to commit

ArabellaScott · 19/08/2020 09:36

If they want an expensive wedding, they have to pay for it.

Nobody's wedding should cost guests more than they are happy to pay, really. I put myself into debt for my stepsis's ridiculous 'fairytale' wedding, hen, etc. It was silly - looking back, I should have just said no, ta.

MrsMcMuffins · 19/08/2020 09:37

I would never pay that amount towards someone else’s wedding even if I could easily afford it. Her wedding, she pays. I cannot understand why you are worried about the fallout. Surely she is the one who should be worried about the fallout over her Bridezilla demands. Will the wedding even happen in these Covid times?

Dennysheart · 19/08/2020 09:39

This is crazy! Surely it’s their wedding so they should be paying for dresses etc. I don’t think guests or people within the bridal party should be out of pocket for a wedding that isn’t theirs. I appreciate you want to keep the relationship but it works both ways. There shouldn’t be a fallout because you can’t afford what the bride is asking. You need to think about your future. I very much doubt the bride really cares if you’re out of pocket and you go without a holiday for your family but I’d put yourself first.

Vivalasjohnnyvegas · 19/08/2020 09:44

Reading this has raised my blood pressure because this is one of the things that irritates me most in life. That is, people who end up tip toeing around another person so not too upset them, when they are the ones being U in the first place.

It is HER wedding, no one else's. No one give a shiny one about her day except her mum probably. Her DH to be probably can't be arsed with the whole circus either but, like most men, will just go along with it. All other guests will enjoy a day out and wince at the expense and inconvenience.

If she wants bridesmaids then she should pay for dresses, shoes hair and makeup. She should buy you a gift. Room is optional. 1 hen do out of the 3. Unless you are buying a bridesmaids dress from a nice high street shop that looks evening wear, you can't use a bridesmaids dress again as it will be glaringly obvious what it is.

Saz12 · 19/08/2020 09:44

Tell her, clearly and firmly, that you can’t justify spending these amounts.

Point out you’ve not had a family holiday because of finances either this year or last, so can’t fork out for a hotel room you don’t need, three hen nights, and makeup.

Be clear that there are lots of nice things you’re going without in order to save for house /debts. That way her endless hen nights are clumped in as a “nice thing”. Sound disappointed.

If she gets pissy, bring out the big guns.... tell her that telling you to pay for a £150 hotel room that you neither need nor want to help subsidise her wedding when she can afford holidays and treats is ridiculous. Point out that you paid for her BM dress (not your parents, you). Say that you know how expensive weddings are because you paid for all of your own, but you just cannot spend so much on being a BM at hers.

Your feelings of resentment are just as valid as however she feels,

Katela18 · 19/08/2020 09:45

Hi OP.

I am getting married next year and have 5 BMs, I am paying for dresses, hair etc for all of them. I budgeted for this when I planned my wedding, chose my venue, chose dresses etc. And when I decided to have 5! I don't feel that being my BM should come at a financial burden to them when it's not even their wedding! It sounds like your family member is having a wedding outside their means and the financial burden is being put on to other people which to me is unfair.

I think the thing is that even if you can afford it, you shouldn't have to. It's not your wedding day, and you aren't getting a choice in the way the day goes, so why should you have to bear the burden? I think a conversation needs to happen, if the B2B doesn't understand or appreciate your point of view it's perhaps worth questioning whether the relationship is worth keeping? Id certainly feel awful for putting one of my BMs in an awkward situation like that and would fully understand their perspective, I'd also appreciate them being honest with me.

Heatherjayne1972 · 19/08/2020 09:48

So much drama
In your shoes I’d be stepping down from being the bridesmaid
And just be a regular guest

Shizzlestix · 19/08/2020 09:50

Literally blocked and deleted on everything by all four of them and haven’t heard a word since.

What a bunch of bitches!

OP, you sound scared of her, possibly scared of falling out with her, but take a step back. Is the other bridesmaid a friend of relative? You can back each other up, just tell her no to the make up, hair and hotel. 3 hen dos is ridiculous. She sounds entitled and spoilt and will ultimately fall out with you over something else. Stick up for yourself, or you’re going to end up paying near on possibly £2K.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 19/08/2020 09:51

Even if your 'close relative' does know about your partner's bonus, your finances are none of her business.

If you suck this up, and do something you don't feel you can do, it will fester and eventually damage the relationship.
If you don't feel you can be honest with her about something so important to you, and you don't think she will care about your feelings or at the very least take them into account, then this relationship is going down the shitter long term anyway.