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I don’t think I am but how to handle. Wedding fiasco

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PrincessCatapus · 19/08/2020 01:17

Close relative getting married soon. Up and down relationship but things are going well and eager to keep things good.

Got married myself last year and had B2B as bridesmaid, paid for dresses (let them pick their own style but said about colours), didn’t care about hair/makeup/shoes etc. B2B chose to have makeup done professionally whilst my MoH did mine. All fine, no issues at wedding and she was a great support on the day.

B2B getting married next year in very expensive place and the whole thing is very extravagant but each to their own. I’m trying to be very enthusiastic and supportive and genuinely do want her to have the best day possible. However, costs are becoming a bit much. Been informed that we need to have hair and makeup done at our cost to the tune of around £100. On top of that been guilted into £150 accommodation despite it actually being close to home (have a child so easier to take home) as they’ll have to cover rooms not used and lots of guests have said they’ll go home so she’s stressing about that. Been told we have to buy dress, which is looking at around £100. There’s a gift registry we’ll have to buy a gift from. Drinks at expensive place. Never mind suits for DH and DS’s. Looks like there’s going to be at least 2 maybe 3 hen do’s.

We could technically afford it, but we have a small amount of debt to pay off from our wedding, and live within our means. Want to start saving for a house too and the money this wedding is going to cost would be a lovely holiday for the four of us (we can’t afford one this year regardless of COVID and only managed a cheap staycation last year). Would also note my DPs offered to contribute a hefty sum towards a family holiday as a wedding gift for this year. Obviously COVID hit and they were keen to book earlier in the year so they could afford other relatives wedding (paying for v expensive dress and perhaps more). We’ve told them not to worry and to forget about it. Genuinely don’t mind but stings a bit when weighing up how the money that needs to be spent on this wedding could be spent on a holiday. I’m also loathed to pay more on hair and makeup than I could stomach paying for my own wedding. She needs enough people to be able to have the person she wants but it’s the same with the rooms too. I just feel as though we’re inadvertently subsidising this extravagant wedding after we budgeted accordingly for ours and didn’t ask for anything from anyone as didn’t feel it was fair to expect people to be worrying about money just to attend our wedding.

Also a bit peeved that B2B is getting help from family that we didn’t (we did reject any financial help in fairness) but they’ve now been saying how they’ve managed to start saving for a house and can’t help but feel like we’re sacrificing a family holiday to pay for their expensive wedding whilst they’re still having extravagant birthday gifts/saving for a house etc that we can’t afford.

Sorry for being vague but would really like some advice on what to do. DH thinks we should suck it up as want to keep the relationship good, as do I, really really badly. But I cannot help but feel really put out by all of it. It just doesn’t sit right to keep saying yes to the detriment of my children.

Can I say no? Without damaging the relationship? Or should I just suck this up to keep everything ticking along smoothly.

Another factor is the other bridesmaid and I have spoken and she’s going to go along with whatever I do. She can’t afford it either but also wants to keep the peace and get the feeling she’s thinking if I say yes she’ll look awful if she’s saying no despite the fact I’m dead against it.

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Zoejj77 · 20/08/2020 18:40

Be honest! She asking a lot

scubadive · 20/08/2020 18:49

This is absolutely crazy op. Tell her that much as you would like to be her bridesmaid you are saving for a house and can’t afford a holiday, funds really tight.

You can’t afford to have hair and make up done, remind her you didn’t even pay for this at your own wedding, and also that you cannot afford the hotel. Crazy if you can get a taxi home.

Tell her that you’ll understand if she wants to choose an alternative bridesmaid if these things really matter.

If she can’t fill the rooms it’s her problem, they can use their house savings, don’t let her use yours.

MollyMinniesMum · 20/08/2020 18:55

A big wedding? Soon? Probably won’t happen tbh

bellocchild · 20/08/2020 19:21

This thread is worrying. Whatever happened to common sense? You could probably stage a production at Covent Garden for less!

BengalGal · 20/08/2020 19:37

Don’t stay at the hotel when you don’t even want to. I am sure it’s quite illegal for the hotel to not allow you to cancel some rooms months before the date. Every city or county has laws about room cancellations, you can’t just write your own rules. Maybe their discount will go down with less rooms but that’s not your problem.

ExhaustedFlamingo · 20/08/2020 19:39

Some really good advice on here about how to tackle it. White lies will not hurt in this instance, and emphasising how much you are looking forward to her wonderful wedding but you're SO worried about money, financial concerns, affording your own house, COVID etc. She's living in a different world and clearly can't understand your position.

Do not feel miffed and pay for things you resent. Only agree to things you genuinely feel happy to do.

Your money cannot stretch in every direction. A bit of good advice I got once was "when you say yes to one thing, you're saying no to something else".

If it helps you to stay strong, imagine telling your child that you can't take them on holiday because you paid for a lot of frippery for your sister's wedding instead. Obviously, I'm not suggesting that you actually tell them!! But imagining it can put things in perspective. By agreeing to spend money you don't have on her wedding, this is what you're doing. You're prioritising make-up, hair and a dress before taking your child on holiday.

I've got a terrible habit of agreeing to things I don't want to do out of a sense of duty. Imagining saying no to other, more important, things has really helped me to politely decline and stay strong when pushed.

Please don't think I'm being harsh, it's just I find that considering the things that you're pushing to one side is a very powerful way to view things.

FelicisNox · 20/08/2020 19:40

YANBU.

The costs are clearly spiralling so get the the other BM and tell her together that you neither of you have the budget for all this.

Be clear on the no hotel and 1 hen do and then say: let's all sit down together and work out what IS affordable so you can have the best day ever and without us worrying about money.

BatshitCrazyWoman · 20/08/2020 19:51

I agree with PPs that a few white lies won't hurt.

Don't allow othet people to spend your money!! They have no right to do that. I find it unbelievably rude of the bride to be to make you spend that much money on her without even thinking about if/how you can afford it.

Say it kindly, but tell her you can't afford it.

Theoldwrinkley · 20/08/2020 19:53

When I was in ‘sales’ (hated it) I remember being told the only objection you can’t overcome is ‘I can’t afford it’, so no alternative way to say it. Straight forward. No misunderstandings. I think she’s being totally unreasonable to ask all this ‘other people paying’ for her day. I would not consider her a very good friend if she is contemplating putting you in debt for her enjoyment.

divafever99 · 20/08/2020 20:27

Make it stop now! It will only get worse. I was a bridesmaid last year for a friend I love her dearly but it ended up costing me a small fortune. It just went on and on, loads of costs I hadn't budgeted for. Of course there was the hen party, the overnight stay at the wedding venue, but then it seemed like a stream of little things constantly like shoes, make up, dressing gowns to get ready in etc etc. It all added up, and like you, I didn't even have professional make up at my own wedding. I made sure it didn't cost anyone to be part of my wedding, I had 2 bridesmaids because that's all I could afford.

mussymummy · 20/08/2020 21:32

I'm sorry I think your friend has put you in a terrible situation. In my opinion (and when I have been a bridesmaid) bride pays for your dress and your hair and makeup.
If you can try and compromise re staying over to save that cash do try however I would be tempted to suck it up to save the friendship and resentfully seethe about it for years x

altiara · 20/08/2020 22:08

I know you’ve already spoken to her, but if (and when) more costs come up - remember to say

  • I can’t afford that, I’m still paying off my own wedding and holiday
  • I can’t afford that, if only DH didn’t have his bonus cancelled
  • I can’t afford that, I’m happy to stand down as a bridesmaid so my money worries don’t ruin your wonderful day
aivilodraw · 20/08/2020 22:30

As you seem so lovely that you’re worried about this when you say that your relationship is “up and down” and you’re eager to keep things good then I can only assume (based on her demands as a bride) that she has been the culprit of your previous fallouts / I’m just speculating though. She sounds like a frenemy. You paid for her dress, I think your OP implies you paid for her choice of makeup etc. How can she now expect YOU to pay for yours? Just send her a message immediately (stop thinking about it just do it!) and say that you can’t stay over because you want to go home cause it’s easier for the kid and that you’ll come back the next day if there’s a lunch or breakfast or something, tell her that you won’t have the hair and make up and that you’ve found someone to do it for free and then ask which hen do she wants you to go on (you can’t go on all three). I assume this lady also doesn’t have children yet so doesn’t understand how the perception of costs change as you build a family. Write her a long message, tell her at the end that you love her to bits and don’t wanna ruin her day but you simply haven’t got the extra money on top of present and dress xx

PrincessCatapus · 21/08/2020 00:02

Thanks everyone. I didn't get my makeup done professionally. My MoH did it. But DS chose to go and get hers done professionally. Didn't care either way in honesty but a bit peeved at being made to pay for something I didn't seem worth the money for my own wedding. I'll be sure to update as things go on. Can't help but feel this won't be the end of it all!

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bustybetty · 21/08/2020 08:41

Do whats best for you. I would do my own hair and make-up, go home after and give a modest joint present. Its a joke expecting you to pay near on £1k for the privilege when you could put that into your own home. Good luck, weddings should not be about this kind of thing. If the bride and groom can't afford to fund the lavish then they should chose to me more modest!

mikulkin · 21/08/2020 09:47

I would take A different approach. It is always difficult to refer to finances and choice between holiday and this as she might think you are exaggerating it and this is the most important day in her life blah blah blah.
Generally I also don’t like these long talks and explanations- given she is pretty unreasonable already the chance is she won’t hear you.
Instead I would just say at different occasions without bundling things together:
Accommodation - it is much more comfortable for me with children to go home as we live close. You wouldn’t believe how difficult it is to stay with a toddler in a hotel after he is excited the whole day. I.e. blame the children and if you are pressured because of money saving for her try to divert conversation to who else can stay in the hotel as you are definitely not staying.
Make up - just smile and say, you know a friend did makeup for me for my wedding, I will go with her for yours too. Couldn’t stomach spending money on make up for my own wedding and really love how a friend does it. Will just stick to her.
Dress - you need to buy
Hen do - don’t discuss in advance that you will only attend 1 but once they are being planned, just get enthusiastically involved in one and make excuses for others (looks like my DH/ DPs can’t watch children then for this or another reason or toddler is doing tantrums for my leaving, really hard time or any other excuse]

mikulkin · 21/08/2020 09:51

Ah just saw she is your sister. Will still go with my plan for accommodation (she didn’t have a child then when she stayed for yours). Will also insists on make up and hair. Will go for hen dos though, as as a sister you need to be there.

PrincessCatapus · 21/08/2020 11:28

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Trying to negotiate going to view her dress with her, without having to pay for DS to go into nursery for an extra morning, or book time off work!

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user1471538283 · 21/08/2020 11:55

Spending other people's money for the things you want is easy. This really annoys me. The bridal party's clothing is paid for by the bride and you are unlikely to wear it again so why would you pay for it? Hair and make up is either paid for by the bride or a friend helps to do everyone's. The same with accommodation - if she wants you to stay over she pays for it. I've was a bridesmaid in Rome several years ago that ended up costing me a fortune (flights, accommodation, accessories, food and drink) and I would never do that again. It is completely unreasonable to expect you to go without so she can have her "big" day. It also shows a lack of class. I would be mortified to ask the bridal party to pay for anything. I would tell her straight. You cannot afford all this so she either pays for you or you do not go

DoubleDeckerBusRideLover · 21/08/2020 12:10

I have not read the whole thread, sorry, but I did see you say your husband usually gets a bonus in December.

Just be careful, it has happened to us twice that expected bonuses haven't come (either at all, or when expected). Usually there is a clause about unprecedented circumstances / business performance, etc, which means that businesses don't always have to pay.

It may not be the case for your DH's contract, but if it is, you don't want to be spending money which could end up not coming.

FizzyGreenWater · 21/08/2020 12:25

This won't work long term.

You can't kid yourself that you've got a great relationship with your sister by tiptoeing round her.

You have to be yourself

And you have to value yourself in the relationship.

If you know deep down that she will be nice to you if you give her everything she wants, and will turn the second you have a boundary... what's the point?!

I've been here with relatives.

It even poisons the time that you're 'nice' together because it feels fake, ultimately. That you have to play the game and that you are inferior. Because you know that they know too that this is the dynamic... they are lording it over you, quietly, every time you meet.

Nataliej2312 · 21/08/2020 20:52

The way I see it, is the bride wants specific thing (ie make up dresses, hair) they should be the ones paying. I did this with my bridesmaid (sisters) wasn’t too fussed what their hair or make up looked like so they did what they wanted, I paid for dresses as I wanted a certain colour and style.
Like someone else has said offer to do the gift OR the accommodation and state that you just can’t afford it all.
In regards to the hen parties, I can’t stand brides that have multiple ones, surely multiple ones are for people that can’t attend others, I would attend one, you don’t NEED to be at the others even as a bridesmaid.
(I didn’t attend my own sisters hen party abroad because I told her I couldn’t afford it) we went out for drinks beforehand.

Jack80 · 21/08/2020 22:38

I would get my hair and make up done the way she wanted it but cheaper. Tell her what you can and can't afford.

PrincessCatapus · 21/08/2020 23:04

Problem with doing it cheaper is she’s told me my friend who did my wedding makeup isn’t allowed to do my hair because she wants me there at 10am the morning of the wedding. Fitting to mention she rocked up at 11:30 morning of my wedding leaving me and my other two bridesmaids to deal with DS and then went into another room to finish getting ready whilst we frantically tag teamed. Not that I’m pissed or anything 😂

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HelloDulling · 21/08/2020 23:14

Telling her you can’t afford it is just stating a fact. It’s not being mean/selfish/dramatic or whatever else she might accuse you of.

You cannot afford all these things. And you don’t need to stay in the hotel.

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