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I don’t think I am but how to handle. Wedding fiasco

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PrincessCatapus · 19/08/2020 01:17

Close relative getting married soon. Up and down relationship but things are going well and eager to keep things good.

Got married myself last year and had B2B as bridesmaid, paid for dresses (let them pick their own style but said about colours), didn’t care about hair/makeup/shoes etc. B2B chose to have makeup done professionally whilst my MoH did mine. All fine, no issues at wedding and she was a great support on the day.

B2B getting married next year in very expensive place and the whole thing is very extravagant but each to their own. I’m trying to be very enthusiastic and supportive and genuinely do want her to have the best day possible. However, costs are becoming a bit much. Been informed that we need to have hair and makeup done at our cost to the tune of around £100. On top of that been guilted into £150 accommodation despite it actually being close to home (have a child so easier to take home) as they’ll have to cover rooms not used and lots of guests have said they’ll go home so she’s stressing about that. Been told we have to buy dress, which is looking at around £100. There’s a gift registry we’ll have to buy a gift from. Drinks at expensive place. Never mind suits for DH and DS’s. Looks like there’s going to be at least 2 maybe 3 hen do’s.

We could technically afford it, but we have a small amount of debt to pay off from our wedding, and live within our means. Want to start saving for a house too and the money this wedding is going to cost would be a lovely holiday for the four of us (we can’t afford one this year regardless of COVID and only managed a cheap staycation last year). Would also note my DPs offered to contribute a hefty sum towards a family holiday as a wedding gift for this year. Obviously COVID hit and they were keen to book earlier in the year so they could afford other relatives wedding (paying for v expensive dress and perhaps more). We’ve told them not to worry and to forget about it. Genuinely don’t mind but stings a bit when weighing up how the money that needs to be spent on this wedding could be spent on a holiday. I’m also loathed to pay more on hair and makeup than I could stomach paying for my own wedding. She needs enough people to be able to have the person she wants but it’s the same with the rooms too. I just feel as though we’re inadvertently subsidising this extravagant wedding after we budgeted accordingly for ours and didn’t ask for anything from anyone as didn’t feel it was fair to expect people to be worrying about money just to attend our wedding.

Also a bit peeved that B2B is getting help from family that we didn’t (we did reject any financial help in fairness) but they’ve now been saying how they’ve managed to start saving for a house and can’t help but feel like we’re sacrificing a family holiday to pay for their expensive wedding whilst they’re still having extravagant birthday gifts/saving for a house etc that we can’t afford.

Sorry for being vague but would really like some advice on what to do. DH thinks we should suck it up as want to keep the relationship good, as do I, really really badly. But I cannot help but feel really put out by all of it. It just doesn’t sit right to keep saying yes to the detriment of my children.

Can I say no? Without damaging the relationship? Or should I just suck this up to keep everything ticking along smoothly.

Another factor is the other bridesmaid and I have spoken and she’s going to go along with whatever I do. She can’t afford it either but also wants to keep the peace and get the feeling she’s thinking if I say yes she’ll look awful if she’s saying no despite the fact I’m dead against it.

OP posts:
FinallyHere · 19/08/2020 07:35

inadvertently subsidising this extravagant wedding after we budgeted accordingly for ours

I'm very sorry, there is no inadvertent about it. The guests are being asked to subsidise the cost of the wedding by booking rooms. The venue would charge a lot more for the use of their facilities without this way to guarantee their own revenue from rooms.

Good ideas about asking her how to manage it within your budget: no room, no professional make up and hair. Buy the dress as your wedding present to her.

I'd bet that the cost of make up and hair for bridesmaids will make hers less costly.

But how do I convey this in a way that isn’t going to totally mess up all the work I’ve put in to rebuilding my relationship with her

The real question is why you are even thinking about using your family's holiday budget to subsidise her wedding when you planned your own within your budget.

Take a deep breath and have a think about how you want your life to be. Why are you putting this B2B ahead of your DH and your children. Why should he work hard only for you to blow any bonus he earns on this unpleasant persons's wedding? Is that how you want to treat your own family ? They are your priority now.

Give your head a wobble and set a boundary. Your life will feel much better with stronger boundaries.

ChikiTIKI · 19/08/2020 07:37

Sounds like you're treading on eggshells with this friendship anyway... Would you kick ourself if you paid all this money and then she falls out with you shortly after for buying her the wrong Christmas present, not getting her a baby shower gift as well as a gift when she has a baby (for example).

I would just say something like.
I was hoping I wouldn't have to have this conversation but... We are in debt.
We need to repay ASAP and are avoiding all non essential spending.
We can't afford to pay x00 to attend the wedding (calculate an estimation)
Tell her you definitely can't do hotel, hair and makeup, etc... You understand if she can't have you as a bridesmaid anymore.

Try going from the, I'm so gutted can't believe it's come to this, upset about being in debt angle. Rather than I don't think your wedding is worth my money kind of angle.

angelfishrock · 19/08/2020 07:39

You know that you do not have to justify to her why you can/cannot afford something. If you tell her you cannot afford it, that has to be the end of the affordability issue.

There is no what I would be railroaded into paying £100 for make up alone. And I think it is extremely rude of the bride to expect you to pay that .

offer to pay for the dress but say you will do your own make up (if identical make up is so important, let her pay for it) and sleep in your own bed. and go to one hendo only.

DH thinks we should suck it up as want to keep the relationship good, as do I, really really badly.

you both sound like pushovers. If she is a real friend, this won't harm the relationship. if it does, well, good riddance.

I had to turn down a few weddings of close friends when I went through a shitty time financially as I couldn't afford the whole shebang (dress, gift, hotel). It never affected my friendships moving forwards.

WashedUpDriedOut · 19/08/2020 07:41

Is this someone whose friendship you really value?

I'm astonished at the financial pressures she's piling on her guests.

Who does that?

Not someone I'd be keen to be friends with especially since you're actually worried about telling her you can't afford it all. What are you afraid she's going to do?

AiryFairyArtyFarty · 19/08/2020 07:43

She's basically asking you to write a blank cheque to subsidise her wedding
She should never had booked and accepted the deals on the hotel rooms and make up artist without checking with people first
She has created this problem by not giving a thought for anyone else
Make your own plans for make up, don't book a room at the hotel and take back control.
Her wedding finances are not your responsibility

KeepingPlain · 19/08/2020 07:50

I'm guessing this is your sister, but she's still a cheeky fucker.

She wants everyone's make up the same? Like any person but her will even notice. If she's that bothered, she pays. She also pays for exclusive use of the hotel and rooms, if that's what she is wanting. She can't have grand and not fork out for it, it doesn't work like that. She pays for dresses too or let's you buy what you want within your budget.

I'm paying for hair and make up to be done for myself, my bridesmaids and both my mum and my mil. Not because I want all of our hair and make up to be the same, but because it's a nice treat for all of us that we very rarely do (or in most of our cases, never do).

She is going to have to start figuring out where to cut back or where to save more money. Maybe if the wedding is so important, the house savings can take a back seat. I can't imagine the marriage will last long with that kind of attitude, but at least the photos will be a pretty reminder. Grin

Broomfondle · 19/08/2020 07:51

I think YABU to compare the costs to a family holiday.
One year we were invited to 8 weddings in one summer, including an expensive onr abroad that DH was best man for. We were also saving for a deposit. All the leave and cost could have absolutely paid for a holiday, but these were our friends and it was an honour to be part of such an important day in their lives.
However I'm firmly in the camp that being a bridesmaid etc shouldn't cost the BM anything. So if you can't afford it just say but if you can afford it you'd just rather go on a holiday then I think you're being a bit selfish and you're not valuing what the wedding means to the bride and groom to be. If you don't care about her that much then you shouldn't be part of her wedding.

AveEldon · 19/08/2020 07:52

Quit as bridesmaid. Just go as a guest

lanthanum · 19/08/2020 07:54

I agree that you need to put your foot down.

However I think you need to be a bit careful about how you approach things and how it might affect the other bridesmaid. If you suggest that the best thing is for you not to be a bridesmaid, and she goes for that, it then leaves the other one feeling even more under pressure to follow orders. If you can raise the matter together (even if you're the one taking the lead), she might be more likely to change the plans.

InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 19/08/2020 07:57

Either pull your finger out and tell her NO to things that are ridiculously expensive or quit as a bridesmaid.

Anniegetyourgun · 19/08/2020 08:02

She wants everyone's make up the same? Like any person but her will even notice.

Exactly. I had no idea this was even a thing. It's not as if identical makeup will suit everyone unless they have identical faces! Now there's an idea: wedding themed masks (Covid safe). Dragons' Den here I come...

cretelover · 19/08/2020 08:04

She's being unfair. She should be paying for the make up and dresses. Hotel room is up to you, not for her to force you to stay (I agree you should pay for this if you do). Go to one hen do. Explain as PP have said you cannot afford everything. If she wants you to look the same she can pay for it. Maybe not put as bluntly as that though!

Glendaruel · 19/08/2020 08:09

Some great advice on hear. Real friends will understand. My only advice is to talk to her as soon as possible, so she can adjust plans.

Rangoon · 19/08/2020 08:10

So the relative is getting family support for the cost but is intent on gouging her bridesmaids for some more costs. You should not sacrifice your financial plans/saving for a house so she can have a splashier day. Look at Princess Eugenie getting married in her grandmother's old dress with a handful of guests - although I have to admit the family tiara added to the occasion. I'd just tell her I couldn't afford it. I had a fairly flashy (for the times of 30 years ago) and I wouldn't have dreamt of having a hen do let alone 3 of them but the point was that we paid for it with no family support.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 19/08/2020 08:10

I really feel for you, OP, as Bridezilla is your close relative. That’s more difficult than a friendship, as your whole family could be involved in any repercussions.

But her demands are ridiculous. I hope you can find a way to back out diplomatically.

There is no limit, and no end, to what people like this relative will demand from you. Nothing you do will ever be enough.

Nocaloriesinchocolate · 19/08/2020 08:12

Slightly off the point but one thing puzzles me. I am retirement age so that might be the reason, but to me make up is make up. Apart from, say, lip colour and eyeshadow colour what else can be done to ensure that everyone looks the same? surely one could just ask for say Blue eyeshadow and dark red lipstick?

MarthasGinYard · 19/08/2020 08:13

Is she your cousin?

I'd gently say you won't be staying and will be asking your friend to do make up, as the costs are spiralling a little.

It's up to the other BM to speak up for herself. Sounds like she's waiting for you to sort it for her.

Dishwashersaurous · 19/08/2020 08:14

I assume that this is your sister and hence why it’s really tricky and your parents paying towards stuff.

If so, then if your parents volunteered cash for your wedding, but you said no, could you ask them to cover your costs for this wedding

Styledbyserpents · 19/08/2020 08:16

I can't get past the ridiculousness of these tacky, over the top weddings when none of you own your own houses and are all apparently saving for deposits whilst spunking thousands on one day.

TinyTear · 19/08/2020 08:18

Im also guessing a sister who is used to be the golden child and is actually pissed off the OP got married first

Ginfordinner · 19/08/2020 08:20

"I can't afford it"
And "Please don't guilt trip me into spending money I don't have"

Don't justify or explain. Just keep repeating the above.

The more you let her walk all over you the more she will continue to do so. Stop being a doormat.

toomuchpeppapig · 19/08/2020 08:21

Just say no. Explain that you did your wedding on the cheap and didn't spend out for makeup etc and couldn't justify spending money like that for someone else's wedding as you've got other things you need the money for. Tell her she's welcome to pay your share if she likes.

PaternosterLoft · 19/08/2020 08:24

It's your sister.
She wants you to pay for her hotel room as well as yours.
She wants you to pay for her make up and hair as well as yours.
She wants you to pay for your dress even though it's her responsibility.
She's getting the wedding of her dreams because other people are paying for it.

She can ask but you don't have to say yes. She's not going to thank you/like you more/be the sister you've always wanted if you agree to everything she asks/pay for her wedding. She's simply going to push more. You are already in debt and you have a child and want to buy a house - your new family has to be your priority now.

angelfishrock · 19/08/2020 08:25

so your sis gets the wedding funded by your parents and still wants you to pay big chunks. No, just no. I would keep it simple and just go as a guest. Sorted.

Norma27 · 19/08/2020 08:26

If she wants your make up doing professionally then she has to pay for it. If she says you have to stay in the hotel when it is easier to go home, then she has to pay for it.
She is totally unreasonable expecting you to pay out hundreds and hundreds for her wedding.
I don't understand how people believe their wedding is so important that others should do without in order to fund it for them.