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DH has checked out of family life due to his mental health

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99WithTwoFlakes · 14/08/2020 21:40

Name changed for this. I don’t know what to do anymore. I basically feel like I’m a single parent.

DH suffers with depression, panic disorder and generalised anxiety disorder, he’s been diagnosed within the last year but I think I have known for a while that there were some mental health issues. He’s never been massively hands on as a dad, and in the past has blamed it on his demanding job, which saw him out of the house for most of the day. But he would do things with the kids when he could, like take them to their hobbies, to the cinema, do some school and nursery runs, and during lockdown he did his fair share of home-schooling etc.

But in the past couple of months it’s got to the point where he cannot even be in the same room as them. (They are aged 1, 3, 6 and 8). He says the kids’ noise exacerbates his mental health conditions. I try to keep them as quiet as possible as I understand the noise is a particular trigger for him and as you can imagine at those ages the kids have their moments, though I would also say the older three do keep relatively quiet for long periods if told to. We also have a large enough house that he can escape to other parts of the house when it all gets too much for him. But what I’ve found is he will do that in the morning and then we won’t see him for the rest of the day. He usually comes back to spend time with me after they’re all asleep.

In the past week he’s also said he won’t be able to do the things he used to do anymore (examples above). He’s said that given his deteriorating mental health I’m expecting too much from him. For what it’s worth I rarely ask him to do anything anymore, everything he does is because he feels like it. And I do everything else including all the housework and trying to work a full time job (from home due to Covid). He won’t do any of the housework but will cook the occasional meal. I still can’t get my head around why he won’t do any housework as that has nothing to do with listening to the kids’ noise....let’s just say that when I bring things up I’m accused of being insensitive or uncaring and on a really bad day I’m blamed for giving him a panic attack.

I feel utterly miserable. Part of me feels like this isn’t the life I signed up for, and then I feel like a complete bitch for feeling that way, because it’s his mental health and although he’s getting regular treatment for it, it’s not working yet and he doesn’t seem to be able to cope with any aspect of family life. We never go anywhere as a family, we never play games with the kids together, he doesn’t even help with bedtimes and hasn’t read any of them a bedtime story in ages. He’s either sitting upstairs in the bedroom feeling depressed or anxious, or he’s just too tired from work. Are these just excuses? How will I ever know if he’s perfectly capable but very ill, or whether he’s just plain lazy?

On top of looking after four children I have to be constantly mindful of his conditions and do everything I can not to trigger a panic attack. Having a conversation with him about something I’m feeling upset about is impossible, there is almost no emotional support back, it’s all one way. It is exhausting and I’m forever walking on eggshells. Lord only knows how the kids feel - probably the same way.

Here’s the AIBU part.... I know this is a ridiculous question but at what point would you cut your losses and go your separate ways? AIBU for considering leaving someone who is clearly very ill? I am already basically a single mum and if I’m honest I feel so much relief when he’s not around. Obviously I love him and miss him at times but it’s one less person to look after and the kids are happier too. But I’m conscious I feel this way because of his deteriorating mental health. So I would feel like I’ve left him just because of a disability ...does that make me pure evil? I sometimes wonder how I’d feel if I had post-natal depression and he left me. But then I realise I’d still be expected to parent and look after my baby if I had PND....and he literally is saying he can’t do ANYTHING now, it’s like he’s got a get out of parenting free card which he now uses daily.

YABU - he’s ill and you need to be there for him even if he can’t contribute to family life anymore.
YANBU - you can’t be expected to do everything / he’s using his mental health as an excuse.

Any thoughts or comments would really help me right now...even if it’s to tell me I’m being an insensitive and uncaring bitch!! Thank you

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TitianaTitsling · 15/08/2020 23:26

@Porcupineinwaiting did your friend accept that her husband and children were also affected by things or did they only center themselves?

Porcupineinwaiting · 15/08/2020 23:36

At the time, very much herself, she was in a real mess and it was more running away than a plan. Then crushing guilt about the kids, got worse. Then, when they managed to stabilise her with meds and therapy (she had to try a few), she started to get better and resume contact.

I wont lie, it was awful and her kids and husband were definitely harmed by it (and also by her deteriorating mh previously). And I found it v hard to watch and I was angry with her (secretly) but you know what, I was wrong. She really couldn't help it, she was sick. Pity there wasnt good mh care available when she first got sick. She didnt even have the right diagnosis for years - treated for repeated bouts of depression until crisis and it turns out she has bipolar. Angry

mathanxiety · 15/08/2020 23:40

I lived like this for almost 10 years, thinking that I had to stand by him and support his illness.

If that was a slip of the tongue it was a brilliant one, @OhMyMirror.

mathanxiety · 15/08/2020 23:41

...of course it wasn't the exact same situation

Thought so, @BeijingBikini

99WithTwoFlakes · 16/08/2020 00:19

Right so...after a really difficult day, he’s decided he still won’t be doing anything to make our situation better. That I’m being unreasonable for even expecting the bare minimum. I guess he’ll continue to focus on himself and only himself in therapy, and that has shown where me and the kids are in his list of priorities. So I’ve told him I can’t live like this anymore and have ended things with him after all. I do still feel bad. He is very unwell. But it was more his attitude about it all that has sealed the deal for me. He just doesn’t seem to care about us. And that’s heartbreaking. I know it will continue to affect me and the children so I’m done. Feeling really low now, that I’m going to be divorced...Just feel hollow, empty and sick...don’t really know what else to say. Thank you everyone for all your help. You all helped me see that this wasn’t a tenable situation to be in for me and my DCs. I really hope they come out of this all okay....and happy

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mathanxiety · 16/08/2020 00:24

Sending a hand hold across several time zones.

You have made the right decision and you have based it on the right observation. Limiting the damage to the children is really important.

Your sadness and trepidation are completely understandable, but I firmly believe your future and especially your children's will be brighter because of it.

Thelnebriati · 16/08/2020 00:36
Flowers
ChicCroissant · 16/08/2020 00:52
Flowers

What is he going to do OP, is he going to stay with his parents for a bit?

Fefifofaff · 16/08/2020 00:54

Make sure you get yourself a SHL. Don't let your compassion for him cloud the financial settlement you need. If he takes the kids at all it will be very minimal, and you will need all the financial support you can get.

StartupRepair · 16/08/2020 00:55

OP you are very brave and your DC will head into a happier future.

Porcupineinwaiting · 16/08/2020 00:59

I'm sorry its come to this but you're right, you couldn't be expected to continue like this indefinitely in the hope things improve. And yes, try your best to get a good settlement for yourself and the children.

Lancrelady80 · 16/08/2020 01:05

Hug for you. You have done the right thing for yourself and your children- they shouldn't have to live trying to not to make any noise, not at 3 years old and younger. Even the older ones would be scarred by having to live like that long term, despite being more able to understand and comply. It was no life for them or you and I have huge sympathy for you and how hard you obviously tried to make it work.

Hopefully your oh will take steps to improvement (maybe separation will spur him on) and you can in time look at building up time as a family, or even rekindling things.

If not, time will heal and you can move on to a happier relationship where you and the children are able to express yourselves in a healthy and relaxed home environment.

Good luck in the future.

BitOfFun · 16/08/2020 01:31

This is really sad to hear, but at least you know now that there's nothing more you can do to save this marriage, as he is far too self-involved.

I am wishing you the very best of luck, and I hope that you feel you can post on MN any time for support Flowers.

Mummypigisalwaysright · 16/08/2020 01:32

Having read all your posts, but not everyone else's, I do really think you have made the right decision. He seems to be using his mental health as a crutch to beat you into submission. The fact that you can't even talk to him because he threatens you with panic attacks is a huge red flag for me. You can't ask him to load the dishwasher or put on some laundry or make a bed without being threatened with a panic attack? That's so manipulative.

It could be that covid has exacerbated his mental health problems but parents can't just decide to check out and expect the other half to stay and do everything. It's not fair and has quite rightly led to resentment.

99WithTwoFlakes · 16/08/2020 01:50

Yes, he has gone to stay with his family. Im feeling pretty good about it actually. I’ve always felt so sorry for people who stay in marriages like these. I’m glad I have the strength to leave. I already do all the housework and parenting, so who is life really going to change for?! Not me - unless it’s for the better without him constantly draining me physically, emotionally and mentally. I’ll definitely get myself a SHL. Oh yes he definitely won’t be able to cope with taking the kids at all, but he’ll probably do something sly now like stop working/quit his job so he doesn’t have to pay for the offspring he brought into this world.

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rainbowlou · 16/08/2020 02:23

I’m so sorry you’re in this situation.
Despite already doing everything already, I think you’ll enjoy life more because you can do it without the feeling of suffocation and having to tiptoe around in your own home Flowers

Greyblueeyes · 16/08/2020 02:33

What a tough call, OP. But I think you made the right one. You and your husband kids just can't live with him like this.

I'm so sorry it came to this.

BGirlBouillabaisse · 16/08/2020 02:48

Well done, OP.

I've said to my own DH a couple of times that if we split up, he'd have to pull his weight with the kids and us get a lot more downtime. I think he sees it as my job to facilitate their lives.

BGirlBouillabaisse · 16/08/2020 02:48

*I'd get a lot more downtime than I do currently.

NotMyFinestMoment · 16/08/2020 03:30

Do you know how many single parents male and female suffer with the same kind of conditions as your husband does (and in many cases, far worse and more physically and mentally debilitating health conditions then he is suffering with - yet they still get up off their arses and take care of their kids). He doesn't get to cherry-pick the parts of being a parent and husband/partner that suits him. He contributes nothing to your home; doesn't help to take care of the 4 young children that he helped to create and doesn't give a damn that you are trying to balance a full time job to keep a roof over your head, on top of the care of four very young and demanding children which is essentially probably destroying you. He's too bone idle to even help keep the house clean. He's a lazy selfish pig who is using his diagnosis as an excuse to live the easy life. He is well enough to participate in the parts of the day that interest him but only wants to see you at bedtime...I wonder why. Get rid of him. You are already doing it alone. While he is living in the house and you are supporting him, get him a pair of ear plugs or ear defenders off Amazon (they cancel out noise) and ask him to get on with the job of looking after the children and keeping the house clean and tidy such that you can get on and work. If he says no, ask him to move out until such time as he has sorted out his 'anxiety' and is prepared to properly pull his weight around the home as a father and as a partner. If you weren't there or around (or were in hospital), would he still be coming out with those pathetic whiny BS excuses? Of course not, he'd have to crack on and deal with it, the same as every other parent up and down the country. He's a lazy, entitled, indifferent CF and you deserve so much better.

NotMyFinestMoment · 16/08/2020 03:31

Sorry just saw the rest of the thread. My apologies.

Weenurse · 16/08/2020 04:32

💐

pilates · 16/08/2020 07:04

You have made a brave decision 99 but one that will benefit you and your children. 💐

Friendsoftheearth · 16/08/2020 07:17

I am sorry to read your update op, but I think you have very little choice, you are all going to suffer otherwise for many many years, and quite possibly sink with him. It is not fair on you, it is definitely not fair on your children.

You will not always be this strong or capable after years and years of this you will find yourself depleting at a rate of knots, so you have done exactly the right thing because this will grind you down to nothing in the end.
Now you have the chance to offer your children a carefree, noisy, normal childhood. You only have them to worry about now. The burden of carrying another whole person on top of everything else has now been lifted.

He has made no effort to meet you half way or anywhere close, and does not seem inclined to do so. It is possible that he will once he realises you are serious. So be prepared for that.

Flowers to you - you tried your best, you did all you could, but you can't carry on like this.

AlternativePerspective · 16/08/2020 07:49

Flowers OP, you have done the right thing IMO.

When I read this yesterday I just wanted to tell you to get out. His behaviour is abusive, even if it is because of mental illness, that doesn’t change the fact, and given he’s unwilling to help himself or to consider you or the DC, there was only ever going to be one way forward.

You deserve better and so do your DC. He has to look after and take responsibility for himself.