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AIBU ExP treating former step children differently

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Sofiasamulet · 11/08/2020 19:52

Short backstory, I have 3 children with ExH and 1 shared child with ExP, ExP also has a daughter (my SD). ExP has been there since older DCs were toddlers until he walked out 4 days before Christmas (whole other thread)

Since then he has only been interested in DS (his son), ExH treats all 5 children the same but ExP pretends mine don't exist.

He takes his son and daughter out regularly to the park, fishing, family days out - all of which I dismiss to the DCs and point out we don't have to do everything the same but here comes the sticking point... A while ago ExP took DS to the cinema, he burst through the door shouting "I went to the cinema" meanwhile the DCs had been at home while I was at work. I took ExP to one side and said would it have been too much to include them? He has space in his car, I would have happily paid and they would have loved it. He apologised and said he'd think first next time. I took this as he would include them with big days out, just like I always and still do include his daughter (we're talking trips he didn't come on I would get my dad to take a child to free up space for SD). I'm not quibbling the weekly contact, just when there's a big day out they might be included, you know he was their father figure for how many years? He might have a slight affection for them like I wouldn't buy ice creams for my children but not the neighbour who's come round to play.

Fast forward to this weekend, DS bursts in the door "I've been to the beach" cue 3 crestfallen faces! I stepped outside to ask what's going on and he is completely unrepentant "they're nothing to do with me" "they have their own dad" "I'm a good dad" he fails to see their gutted faces and bewilderment. They've only ever known everyone is included, no one is left out. When one gets invited to a party they know their time will come later in the year, they know if one gets a medal at school if they work hard enough they might too. They're not entitled in the slightest so am I being unreasonable to expect him to show an ounce of compassion for them?

Not to drip feed but this is not about me, I don't want to be included in these days out, I don't expect him to pay for anything, just when it's a big day out include all the siblings (bearing in mind DD and SD were best friends throughout school and she still comes around here)

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LovingLola · 11/08/2020 20:40

How long were you with your ex-p?

aSofaNearYou · 11/08/2020 20:40

Tbh I don't think you're being unreasonable to include them all and I don't think he's being unreasonable not to. There's no obligation for him to maintain that sort of relationship with them now you are not together, and given you aren't on the same page on that I think you are essentially setting them up to fail by instilling the expectation that all the adults involved are akin to parents. Play dates every now and again would be perfectly appropriate since you say his daughter and yours are friends, but it's still perfectly appropriate for him to have a relationship with his DC that is unique to them.

Sofiasamulet · 11/08/2020 20:41

@forrestgreen

I'd say then it's only fair we do things with our own children. Tell exh that exp said he doesn't have to take them. He can take own dd. Then ch will have their own special experiences. You offered the grown up way, he doesn't want that, so do it his way. Then every child feels special
So SD loses out on that time with her step-siblings, they still identify as stepsisters/stepbrothers Confused
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Quartz2208 · 11/08/2020 20:43

But 4 are yours - you are adding in an extra 1 who is the best friend of your DD so makes it I suspect easier but certainly not harder

He is adding 3 to 2 so if on his own completely different.

LovingLola · 11/08/2020 20:45

So SD loses out on that time with her step-siblings, they still identify as stepsisters/stepbrothers

Yes. And that’s hard on her. And that’s as a result of your relationship with her father breaking up. So she has to suffer the consequences of choices made by adults in her life.

AskingforaBaskin · 11/08/2020 20:47

So SD loses out on that time with her step-siblings, they still identify as stepsisters/stepbrothers

But they're not. They're just not.
And this little mess could be messing them up even more.

hammeringinmyhead · 11/08/2020 20:49

I don't really think it's up to your ExP to use his contact time to make sure his daughter still regularly sees your three. It would be nice of him, but honestly the thought of taking 5 children to the park when 3 are not mine scares me!

Sofiasamulet · 11/08/2020 20:49

@Quartz2208

But 4 are yours - you are adding in an extra 1 who is the best friend of your DD so makes it I suspect easier but certainly not harder

He is adding 3 to 2 so if on his own completely different.

I'm starting to appreciate that now, I think it's the callousness that gets me. He was in their lives for 8 years, sicknesses, successes, assemblies and now he doesn't even talk to them. He waits in his car for DS and leaves with no hi nor bye.
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Standrewsschool · 11/08/2020 20:50

You don’t say how old the kids are, only that he knew them since they were toddlers. How long were you with dp?

Standrewsschool · 11/08/2020 20:50

Sorry, just read update.

8 years is a long time.

Viviennemary · 11/08/2020 20:52

YABU. Managing 5 children would be too much for most people. And expensive for days out. Why can't he just take out his own children. Since you're not even together now.

ZigZagPlant · 11/08/2020 20:53

You’d need a massive car too. That in itself is quite a tie to keep, maintain and replace a car of that size when you could otherwise drive nearly anything you wanted.

Sofiasamulet · 11/08/2020 20:54

@LovingLola

So SD loses out on that time with her step-siblings, they still identify as stepsisters/stepbrothers

Yes. And that’s hard on her. And that’s as a result of your relationship with her father breaking up. So she has to suffer the consequences of choices made by adults in her life.

So to clarify you are advising me to cut off SD seeing her step-siblings so that she can suffer because of me Confused

I can make head nor tail of that comment but to clarify my own position I will continue to actively facilitate their contact as she is my SD and I would never deprive any of the children from spending time together (hence my whole bloody post that ExP is a t* for casting his stepchildren out in the cold)

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CatherinedeBourgh · 11/08/2020 20:55

I was like your older dc and I think yabu.

In the end he is not their father. If he includes them occasionally he is being generous but he doesnkt owe them anything.

Going out with 2 dc is very different from going out with 2.

OhCaptain · 11/08/2020 20:56

I suspect If ex SD wasn’t best friends with your DD you wouldn’t be as into maintaining the relationship.

Sofiasamulet · 11/08/2020 20:56

@ZigZagPlant

You’d need a massive car too. That in itself is quite a tie to keep, maintain and replace a car of that size when you could otherwise drive nearly anything you wanted.
He already has that, he bought a family car for his family that he no longer needs as he no longer has a family (his words)
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AnneLovesGilbert · 11/08/2020 20:56

The cinema and the beach aren’t “big days out”. Why isn’t their father doing things with your 3 when exDP has the other two? Why aren’t you?

Why did you break up?

Bollss · 11/08/2020 20:56

she is my SD

She isn't any more though is she?

And casting his step children (again, not any more) in the cold? Bit dramatic.

BluebellForest836 · 11/08/2020 20:58

You are not together. She is NOT your step daughter anymore.

She’s your ex child. That’s it. She’s not even related to your 3 children, just her one brother who she gets to see anyway.

If you’re happy to include her then that’s great... 1 extra kid v your extra 3! Huge difference.

Viviennemary · 11/08/2020 20:59

Thats the price you pay when you split up. Children suffer. Especially in these multiple step children relationships.

Drumple · 11/08/2020 21:00

You’re adding one child who is a best friend to yours anyway.

He’s having to take 3. Who aren’t best friends to his.

And they aren’t step anything’s anymore.

I’m sorry - I can see what you’re trying to do but I can also see why he wouldn’t want to do it.

ZigZagPlant · 11/08/2020 21:01

He already has that, he bought a family car for his family that he no longer needs as he no longer has a family (his words)

But that’s fair enough. I will drive a smaller car when I don’t have a need for a bigger one too. That’s not unreasonable.

InDeoEstMeaFiducia · 11/08/2020 21:02

Oh, please! He's not being 'not as nice as you' by not taking 3 kids that aren't his on days out Hmm. You are free to invite your ex-p's daughter on days out if you feel she's losing out on contact with your other kids.

So SD loses out on that time with her step-siblings, they still identify as stepsisters/stepbrothers

I identify as a billionaire; doesn't make it true. You weren't married. There was no step family.

You're not together now.

Move on.

ZigZagPlant · 11/08/2020 21:02

As pp have said it would get extremely complicated if he meets another partner who also has children. Better the children adjust now than feel replaced or pushed out later on.

Sofiasamulet · 11/08/2020 21:05

@ZigZagPlant

He already has that, he bought a family car for his family that he no longer needs as he no longer has a family (his words)

But that’s fair enough. I will drive a smaller car when I don’t have a need for a bigger one too. That’s not unreasonable.

Definitely agree there, I was never implying he was unreasonable, just tongue in cheek explaining he does have a large car already. It was a moot point
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