To tell school they're just back from Spain

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In Scotland so schools start back this week. Family with DC in DS's class got back from Spain less than a week ago so should be isolating for 14 days but.... they are sending their kids back this week.

So, should I tell the school? They could be infected and therefore put others at risk. At best it would be inconvenient having to isolate and kids staying home from school again. Or is it none of my business? Not even sure what the school can do about it.

YABU - don't tell, sure they'll be fine
YANBU - tell school, they're being irresponsible

Wherw did they go, though, OP? Some parts of Spain have lower rates than we do - they'd be more at risk in Cornwall or the Lakes. It's breathtaking arrogance of this Gov to impose quarantine on holiday makers coming back from Menorca, for eg.

Friend went to Ibiza just before the quarantine hit. Came back via a day or so in France - no problem. No quarantine. No tracking.

I think many Scottish holiday makers had been coming back into England a few days before their trip back home - as England had no requirements to quarantine, and Scotland did.
The whole thing is a total shitshow.

It depends where in Spain - most is safer than parts of the UK! But if they've come from a high risk area (or if you don't know which area), I'd definitely have a quiet word with the school.

They're hardly going to be thrown in jail or tortured, they're just being asked to stay at home and do nothing for a few more days.

If they don't, they're putting people's lives at risk and may potentially cause a lockdown of your particular school so that everyone has to stay at home for 14 days (or more!).

Selfish people doing as they please will be what causes most issues in schools. All of those going oh no the snitching has started etc, it's people like those who can't be arsed to quarranttine that are likely to drag this out longer.

This drives me mental. I know a family who have just returned from Spain. Giving it big licks on social media about oh noooo we will need to quarantine and then yesterday the daughter was posting about getting her nails done.

I am no grass. I hate the fact that people would report their neighbours for how many times they crossed their threshold during lockdown or had pals in the garden etc. But this is completely different tbh.

Please let the school know. I’m nervous enough about returning to meeting 300 young people a week, I have to trust that those young people and their parents are doing the right thing. I can forgive tiny breeches, but the quarantine is a big one.

The kids are school age. They'll grass themselves in.

Selfish, selfish bastards.
I'm Never one for 'telling' but in this instance I definitely would. Why did they go if they knew they'd send their kids to school ? They obviously knew about the rule before they went. People make me so angry sometimes

Tell the school. It's then up to the school to find out where they went, etc. Our school has made it clear they will be sending DCs home if they should be quarantining.

I wouldn't do anything for the fact that our cases are worse than Spain's. They were probably safer over there. Plus if it was a resort then they've probably basically been surrounded by English and German people for a week.

I'd be upfront and email the school.

We need schools functioning for as long as possible.

@justasking111

I think the nice tan would be a bit of a giveaway and the truth would come out anyway, children talk.

Not necessarily. I have a 'better' tan at the moment than I've had in years and I haven't set foot outside the UK, but I have spent a lot of time out in the garden and on walks in the beautiful weather. But the teacher-pupil chats about what we've all been up to recently might well be their undoing.

I turn a blind eye at someone I know stretching the truth with their dcs school and the benefit system. But I would not turn a blind eye to this. No way. This is playing with people’s lives.

It depends where in Spain - most is safer than parts of the UK!

Not really relevant, if you flew. You'd have been sharing a plane with people from any part of Spain.

They should obviously be following the rules. However it’s true most parts of Spain have lower cases than here. So the government is partly to fault for not targeting those areas and just imposing a blanket quarantine.

94% of infections show within one week so the 14 day quarantine picks up just 6%

Therefore, whilst what they are doing isn’t right, they aren’t posing the huge risk it may seem.

I did lots of research on planes and the filtration systems etc before we flew. I honestly think you’re safer on a plane than packed tightly on a tube for example. Especially if the plane is half empty as many areas the moment. Plus they are cleaned down constantly unlike the tube.

Not saying they shouldn’t quarantine like everyone else but that it’s not as risky as being made out.

mummyoflittledragon Why is it OK to claim benefits fraudulently but not exercise judgement in other areas of life?
This issue is straightforward:- if they’ve been in northern Spain - report them. If they haven’t, don’t.
I was in Tenerife earlier this summer pre quarantine, and the precautions being taken are way way more than in the UK. In the week when quarantine was introduced, the whole canaries had 1 new case of Covid. The number of active cases was 5 per 100,000, compared to 15 in the UK. Needless to say we didn’t catch anything!

It's not the planes that are the issue. It's the airports where unless you're flying on a private plane, you are going to pass through very heavy footfall areas with no checks, lots of hard surfaces, an air conditioning system, people from countries with higher rates of transmission, etc.

This thread is terrifying. We have been shielding. We've kept DC protected and this thread makes it clear that not only are they going to meet people at school who think quarantine rules don't apply to them but there are also going to be lots of idiots who know other people should be quarantining but they're not going to tell the school. The selfishness makes me sick.

How old are the dc? I challenge any child under about 8 not to blab by break time.

But yes, I’d try and find a discreet way of telling School.

@Fizzygreenwater why don't you get a Covid test?

How will that stop this family breaking the rules and potentially spreading Covid around the school?

And the argument that planes are risky - well firstly they’re way safer than crammed trains going to Bournemouth! They’re massively air conditioned, with the air filtration rate having been increased and the air con set very high. Also they’re nowhere near full at the moment. Also the point of this thread is quarantine countries, not air travel. And for the canaries, people fly from there to the uk. There aren’t passengers from northern Spain. Why would there be? The canaries are off the coast of Africa.

Yes tell school trust me having worked in a hospital (not covid front line) the whole time people do not take this virus nearly seriously enough.

I would argue a pub is more dangerous than an airport. Yes people from different areas but everyone wearing masks, social distancing and hand sanitisers everywhere.

We were not in close contact with anyone for 15 minutes, this is how the virus is spread.

There’s risk there yes but there’s risk in bars, supermarkets, the tube etc. Especially as cases over here are pretty much on a par.

Do airport staff get more sick? Genuine question. If it’s such a high risk environment and they are there all day every day? Be interesting to know.

I don't normally support reporting people but I think in this case I would tell the school. I don't actually think visiting most parts of Spain is more risky than UK, but if they are required to quarantine they should be doing it.

Absolutely delatron , pubs are much more risky.

When we flew the airport was quieter than usual, the 2 metre distance was observed all the time , everyone wore masks, there was hand sanitiser everywhere, most shops were closed.
There is no logic to the rules regarding the Canaries. It would be like someone avoiding Gibraltar because of the outbreak in Aberdeen.

Yes tell them. There may be kids that are more vulnerable or teaching staff to covid. They may see it as a small gain but many family's may face a huge loss if this behaviour is tolerated