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To report this dance studio?

173 replies

Icelollolly · 09/08/2020 14:58

Would I be being unreasonable to report a dance studio to Walt Disney Studios UK as in the past and currently they have /are using various Walt Disney Studios flims as themes for school holiday dance camps and performances and are using songs from the films in performances. They have posted on social media advertising using Disney flims as themes for the dance camps and posting videos of performances to music from Disney films.

OP posts:
backseatcookers · 09/08/2020 17:12

@BlueJava

Are you really so joyless OP that you have nothing better to do?

PS My neighbour's kid was singing some Elsa songs earlier in her paddling pool - do you think 101 or 999 would be more appropriate?

Citizens arrest for that magnitude of offence TBH, otherwise you're complicit and could face prosecution yourself. Actually if they start Let it Go I wouldn't actually blame you.
Standrewsschool · 09/08/2020 17:13

@BlueJava

Are you really so joyless OP that you have nothing better to do?

PS My neighbour's kid was singing some Elsa songs earlier in her paddling pool - do you think 101 or 999 would be more appropriate?

Ltb!
ktp100 · 09/08/2020 17:13

How do you know they aren't paying an annual copyright fee, as schools have to if they watch films in classes/play music etc?

You must be really fucking bored, OP Hmm

ineedaholiday123 · 09/08/2020 17:14

This is the weirdest thread I've seen in a while

Realladymarmalade · 09/08/2020 17:14

Just omg. No words.

StarTrekRedShirt · 09/08/2020 17:15

Sorry op, but all you’ve done is come across as a nasty, vindictive b*tch! It makes no difference to you.

MacduffsMuff · 09/08/2020 17:16

Don't be so bloody ridiculous.

AwkwardMoment2020 · 09/08/2020 17:16

I used to be a Disney Princess and still have friends in the entertainment industries including lots of people who run hometown dance studios and stage schools. Most of them do Disney or Musical/Movie Themed holiday camps.

There’s a very very good chance this school you are mentioning is PERFECTLY legal and above board. You can stage a performance including a certain number of songs from one show without licensing permission. You can stage the full Disney versions of musicals of Aladdin, The Little Mermaid, Moana etc for child and youth groups for a licence fee. The original source material ie The Snow Queen, Cinderella is all well out of copyright now so classes based on those plus a few songs from the Disney musicals would not incur any fees.

I’ve performed in holiday venues where whole shows were marketed around The Greatest Showman or Frozen. We could only include a certain number of songs or a time limited amount, couldn’t wear certain costume, couldn’t refer to ourselves as “Barnum” or “Elsa” or whatever but some of these Entertainment venues and companies were close to being as big as Disney and it was all completely legal and above aboard.

With these Princess appearance companies that most U.K. towns have now, you can’t refer to the Princesses or market them as their Disney names, even if they are clearly wearing the same costume as their Disney counterparts. So Aurora might become “Princess Beauty” or “Beautiful Princess” (which gets confusing in a company where Belle is also on the books!), Elsa and Anna become “The Snow Sisters”, Moana is “Polynesian Princess”. This is usually just for marketing or advertising purposes. Once at the venue, the children usually use the Disney names but the actors shouldn’t really say “Hi, I’m Belle” for example.

It’s complex but it is allowable.

Your friend sounds unhinged.

Mama1980 · 09/08/2020 17:20

I don't know why she/you would think this isn't all above board. Our village dance studio use Disney they have paid to do so, they even perform at Disneyland every summer. (Usually!)

But even if it's not why would you want to cause upset.

GeneParmesanPrivateEye · 09/08/2020 17:21

They've probably got a license to perform these songs. Most places do. I've been involved in plenty of shows and we purchased the rights to perform them, which of course is only right. Or maybe they have a PRS license which allows them to play the music in their dance classes, at least.

As business, they will already have this in place, so it's probably not an issue.

But yeah, go ahead and report a dance studio that has earned little to no money for the last 5 months.

In what way would this result in a loss of income for Disney? What is your concern? Have Disney been running alternative dance camps that have lost money due to this studio doing their holiday classes?!

If anything, it would encourage kids who haven't seen the films yet to go and watch them, so probably Disney are doing ok from it, relax.

coffeerice · 09/08/2020 17:24

Performing Arts Schools are really struggling to survive. Most are owned by a trained dancer/actor who slog their guts out every day.
Give them a break. Covid is enough to deal with.
What a nasty thing to consider doing. Shame on you.

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 09/08/2020 17:26

ONLY Yes if you happen to be a freelance intellectual property lawyer seeking an opportunist opportunity with a potential direct interest.

Otherwise NO as stated by all/most posters already as probably not wise to cause a fuss. Unless you are connected to say a nearby competitor dance studio (and therefore a remote causation tangible material disadvantage) and also have never over stepped minor transgressions and a true resolute believer in strict justice and equality. I am assuming the global corporate entity (Disney Inc) has very robust business performance and would not have necessarily suffered any financial (nor reputation damage) loss from these admittedly illegal activities benefiting the association.

So in short NO.

ImNotBusyImLazy · 09/08/2020 17:28

FFS, what a scrooge you are. Find another hobby.

Youbigdosser · 09/08/2020 17:31

Yabvu please get a life 🤦🏼‍♀️
Just FYI they will have a music listener and are totally allowed to use disney music

SentientAndCognisant · 09/08/2020 17:34

Yes grass up the dance studio.Then go to your local caff, grass them to PRS for placing the radio
Shop the bakers,the local shop, for playing radio too. It constitutes public performance
Then, return home. Happy like Almira Gulch that your work is done

Youbigdosser · 09/08/2020 17:34

Music licence *

biglouis · 09/08/2020 17:36

Snitches should be hung on piano wire

Lolwhat · 09/08/2020 17:39

Get a life

SarahBellam · 09/08/2020 17:44

Why?

Balhammom · 09/08/2020 17:44

Seriously?!

Ariela · 09/08/2020 17:53

My daughter's dance school always had the correct licences for music.

The PRS are very very thorough - at work we have nothing to do with the music industry, and we don't have many employees, but they always make a point of ringing and trying to sell us a licence for music under the guise of checking if we actually need one (no radio, no equipment to play music, no speakers on the office computers).

Pinkyyy · 09/08/2020 18:03

What a load of absolute shite.

MissBaskinIfYoureNasty · 09/08/2020 18:10

Your friend needs to get a life.

PhilSwagielka · 09/08/2020 18:11

Oh, do get a life.

maddiemookins16mum · 09/08/2020 18:13

@Icelollolly

I'm not going to report them, my friend was saying they should get reported but I'm not going to.
Oh your friend...righty ho then

YA still BU.