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To say if you don’t agree with the way schools are reopening de register your dc

173 replies

whenthejoyreturns · 09/08/2020 09:36

I’m sick of reading about people moaning about school reopening, lack of social distancing etc. What do you want? DC off school for years and all the long term implications that will cause /is causing.
If you don’t like it, don’t send your dc but stop complaining.

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Fatted · 09/08/2020 10:31

The schools should have never closed in the first place and it was only because of the crying and complaining from people who could afford to have their DC home every day that they closed.

dreamingbohemian · 09/08/2020 10:41

There's been a number of studies publicised in the last week that show very minimal transmission of the virus in primary schools. So yes, I think we should get on with it and anyone who wants to keep their DC home absent medical grounds should de-register if their school is oversubscribed.

Secondary school is more complicated.

jacks11 · 09/08/2020 10:43

Fluffy

But the evidence from other countries does not suggest schools as the major driver of spread. There is a slight rise in transmission rates when school first reopen, but this has then flattened out. I think schools should be the last places to shut, or we risk the actions we take being more damaging to children (mental health, social development and education) than the virus itself. They does mean measures being put in place to protect teachers and school staff, and I do think this will mean allocating extra resources. Though I was listening to a friend who is a teacher and some of the fears and demands she was telling me that some teachers/the unions are suggesting are way over the top. If all the other front line staff took that approach everything would have ground to a total halt.

The other (small) positive (at the moment) is that infection rates may be rising in some regions but this has not yet translated into the matching admission/ICU admission rise. This is probably because higher numbers of younger people are being infected. This could, of course, change- and will if people are not careful about contact with other more vulnerable people.

FrippEnos · 09/08/2020 10:45

OP you are an idiot.

Under the current guidance with the current information that we have schools are not safe enough.

It wouldn't take too much to make them safer but you know fuck it.

Orchidsindoors · 09/08/2020 10:46

"Use your place or cede it to someone who will. But certainly don't demand all schools remain closed even to parents and children ready and willing to attend."

But that doesnt make sense when most people only dont want to send their kids temporarily. Why do people get the notion that people dont want to send their kid for a year or even years, like the op has said. Just ridiculous. If people really want to not send them for a year or years, (I should imagine quite low no.s,) then they will more than likely deregister, but that's not at all what the majority are thinking. Why would people deregister for a couple of weeks or months!!

Meangallery · 09/08/2020 10:47

Op if you don't like the moaning don't open the thread.

PhilCornwall1 · 09/08/2020 10:47

Apparently, the latest PHE study has said that there is very little evidence that the virus is transmitted in schools, so looks like school is definitely in next month.

Interesting how they suddenly come up with this a month before the schools are due back.

So I guess this virus is smart then and knows when it's in a school and doesn't infect others. Impressive stuff!!

luckylavender · 09/08/2020 10:51

I'd much rather people complained about schools and focused on education rather than the endless moaning and whingeing about wearing masks. It's a scandal that education hasn't been prioritised although I am worried about children's safety and of course the safety of teachers that hardly anyone mentions.

Marzipan12 · 09/08/2020 10:56

I won't deregister my child because he is in a very good and extremely popular high school that he is excelling in. That dosent change my right to be concered about him.going back into full 30 pupil classes and dosent change my right to express my concerns about this on social media. I really don't care if you are fed up listening to this, 😂

PicsInRed · 09/08/2020 11:02

But that doesnt make sense when most people only dont want to send their kids temporarily. Why do people get the notion that people dont want to send their kid for a year or even years

Why would people deregister for a couple of weeks or months!!

It's been coming up 5 months since lockdown (with the more concerned having already withdrawn their children at that point). That's plenty of time to decide whether they will return or not in September. If we give them another 5 months, it'll be January and they'll then be concerned about winter spread - which is half a year in which other willing children could have been educated in a school near home.

It's been 5 months, the choice is available, there's no compulsion, time to choose.

stayathomer · 09/08/2020 11:05

Emeraldshamrock in Ireland too, currently isolating with covid and with 3 counties in lockdown and 176 new cases yesterday, I don't know where we'll be in general. I dont think pubs make a difference tbh, with beauticians, hairdressers, cafes, summer camps and the whole country on holiday, I dont know that they'll stem this by September (although are getting ready anyway!)

dreamingbohemian · 09/08/2020 11:05

There have been studies from multiple countries showing low risk at primary level. They're coming out now because they're looking at evidence from the May/June reopening in order to inform plans for September. I think they should be reassuring.

Orchidsindoors · 09/08/2020 11:17

"It's been coming up 5 months since lockdown (with the more concerned having already withdrawn their children at that point). That's plenty of time to decide whether they will return or not in September. If we give them another 5 months, it'll be January and they'll then be concerned about winter spread - which is half a year in which other willing children could have been educated in a school near home.

It's been 5 months, the choice is available, there's no compulsion, time to choose."

They missed from 23rd March to the end of Summer term. 3.5 months. Since then it's been the Summer holidays. I've no idea why people count the Summer holidays as a period of time of missing school. They normally wouldnt be in school. It's been an ever moving feast since lockdown, numbers went down, now they are rising again as everything reopens, so they will continue to rise. Yes, I have over the summer hols to think about it, but my choice will be made nearer to September based on numbers and based on what my school tells me they are putting in place. I'm in Wales over 40 per cent of parents didnt send their kids when they could for the 4 weeks at end of last term. I suspect the numbers will be similar in September. We wind get fined. Noone will have to deregister.

Marzipan12 · 09/08/2020 11:19

Reassuring possibly for primary. Not do for secondary. My child's secondary took back 80 pupils per day for year 10, nothing for the other groups and those who where in where in groups of 8. In September they will take tne whole school whichs is 1500 in class sizes of 30. Don't forget secondarys consist of 11-18 year olds not small children. I won't de register my child but I sure as hell won't stop expressing my concerns on social media or elsewhere. I don't know who tne OP thinks she is expecting people to stop.

blacktop · 09/08/2020 11:22

You have a very simplistic view OP.

Rosebel · 09/08/2020 11:24

Well if you don't want to send your children to school then yes you'll have to home school because there's no other option.
If you can't home school then send them to school or you could just let them fall really behind I suppose.

dreamingbohemian · 09/08/2020 11:24

Yes I agree secondary is a different story.

stayathomer · 09/08/2020 11:24

They're coming out now because they're looking at evidence from the May/June reopening in order to inform plans for September. I think they should be reassuring
That's where I find the problem though, kids are rarely sick in may and june, in September there's coughs and bugs and snotty noses. I honestly just wonder what they do then? Does your child isolate or go do a test( a test that isn't the easiest) ?and they'd only have half the class in at any given time too.

IAintentDead · 09/08/2020 11:38

I'm sick of people moaning
I'm sick of people moaning about people moaning
I'm sick of people moaning about people moaning about people moaning
I'm sick of people moaning about people moaning about people moaning ....
Oh wait ...

FrippEnos · 09/08/2020 11:38

they're looking at evidence from the May/June reopening

But the openings in September are not going to the same as May/June.

Fewer pupils, social distancing, etc.etc.

It will give false results

dreamingbohemian · 09/08/2020 11:51

That depends on the country. In Germany they had a more thorough reopening than the UK, early studies also show very little transmission.

AudacityOfHope · 09/08/2020 11:52

Urgh, is your thinking always this simplistic?

There are a range of options between being thrilled to bits and deregistering your kids.

I am in now way thrilled and I am scared tbh. But my kids would be left out of so much if all their friends went back to school and they didn't. Add to that I've been made redundant and need to find a new job to pay the bills so can't home school.

That said, I will be looking closely at how safe is seems and if it isn't, or cases rise locally, I'll have some really tough decisions to make.

Life is nuanced OP, don't pretend it isn't. It's a shite and immature way to start a conversation, if nothing else.

FrippEnos · 09/08/2020 11:55

dreamingbohemian

But in Germany they are wearing masks in schools etc.

If you are going to compare other countries we must surely be trying to do the same.

Israel went back to school with no concessions and they have closed them, and re-opened them with concessions. they have even published their mistakes yet they are being ignored by many.

FrippEnos · 09/08/2020 11:57

We also need to stop talking about "schools".

We need to be talking about Primary and Secondary,

notheragain4 · 09/08/2020 12:02

Oh do I hope people do this, we are moving to an oversubscribed area so would be great if there was space for my kids who would be there religiously from the start of term!