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Asked to put preferred pronouns on email signature

441 replies

Ermokthen · 03/08/2020 17:03

Just had an email from team leader following a diversity workshop that she’d like us all to put our preferred pronouns on our email signatures, as this was a suggested take home action.

Other members of team already responded, some enthusiastically, others clearly not bothered and just going along with team leader.

I really don’t want to do this and have no idea how to respond without being targeted as any number of negative things. Help please...

But just so I can sense check - aibu not to want to put she/her etc after my (very feminine and not to be confused otherwise) name on my email signature?

OP posts:
Coldspringharbour · 03/08/2020 19:28

Stop the world I want to get off. We’ve really lost the plot haven’t we. I don’t blame you for not wanting to.

Smallsteps88 · 03/08/2020 19:28

Are you literally loving it, or just loving it? Grin

flashbac · 03/08/2020 19:30

When I see pronouns in someone's signature I assume they're a total idiot and the organisation has nothing better to do. Don't do it.

EyesOpening · 03/08/2020 19:30

@Smallsteps88

Are you literally loving it, or just loving it? Grin
Grin
Helmetbymidnight · 03/08/2020 19:32

how about Mon-tues = she weds-thurs = he, fri = they?

Smallsteps88 · 03/08/2020 19:34

@Helmetbymidnight

how about Mon-tues = she weds-thurs = he, fri = they?
I think this is my favourite answer! Grin

But are we allowed to copy Pip bunce’s email signature?

Fallstar · 03/08/2020 19:35

This would really bother me and I would refuse to do it because it's buying into what to me is a damaging social construct.

I've spent decades fighting against gender stereotypes and I don't intend to start embracing them now.

'Cis' implies agreement with the whole gender-identity thing. I'm not a 'cis' woman. I'm a woman. Of the female sex. My sex was not 'assigned'; it was observed when I was born.

You can't identify out of your biology, no matter how much you'd like to and while I believe that people with sex dysphoria should be offered support and protected from discrimination, nobody can change sex.

It's not a matter of 'just being kind' - people who go along with this pronouns stuff are party to giving away women's sex-based rights in a whole host of situations and my rights are not theirs to give away.

TheGreatWave · 03/08/2020 19:37

Could I put she/him ?

No one needs to know my pronouns and I don't particularly care how people refer to me when I am not there.

The whole concept is oppressive and backwards for all the previously mentioned reasons. If I was up to it I may also talk about my professional standards

Crankley · 03/08/2020 19:37

It's a load of bullshit isn't it. Don't pander to the idiots.

FarTooSkinny · 03/08/2020 19:39

In the thread linked...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3970772-fully-outed-myself-as-gc-at-woke-workplace

What does GC mean? Sorry for my ignorance

MoreListeningLessChatting · 03/08/2020 19:42

Regards

Sam White (he/she/them/depends on the day of the week since practising fluidity)

AlphaDalpha · 03/08/2020 19:43

Half a dozen wingdings ought to resolve the problem.

Frazzled13 · 03/08/2020 19:46

You definitely shouldn't be forced to for several reasons - for example there could be gender neutral people who don't particularly want to put "(they)" at the end of their email to every one (maybe people they don't know, clients they've never met etc) because they don't want to deal with any potential negative reactions.
Obviously that's not something anyone should be concerned about because no one should be discriminated against, but you wouldn't force people to say their sexuality at work, and say it's for diversity.

FrenchtoEnglish · 03/08/2020 19:47

I wouldn't do it either. I think it's shocking that you've been asked. You've managed this far in life without having to do it, haven't you? I'd kick up a proper shit fit if I was asked to do that.
Put:

Ermoktem (I'm happy for you to presume my sex). That's an equally valid choice.

TheGreatWave · 03/08/2020 19:47

far GC = Gender Critical

PamDenick · 03/08/2020 19:48

GC is 'gender critical' which means you don't buy into the narrative that we chose our gender but rather that we are born one of two sexes.

PrimalLass · 03/08/2020 19:49

It's nonsense.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 03/08/2020 19:50

@FarTooSkinny

In the thread linked...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3970772-fully-outed-myself-as-gc-at-woke-workplace

What does GC mean? Sorry for my ignorance

Gender critical i.e. of the opinion that gender stereotypes are harmful and sexist.
SweetPetrichor · 03/08/2020 19:51

@Goingdownto it’s absolutely hilarious that you go for the passive aggressive ‘honey’ on a thread that has devolved into a stereotypes discussion. That’s the most stereotypical annoyed female ‘I’m going to talk down to you’ response ever. Grin

wishingitwasfriday · 03/08/2020 19:53

@randomchap

Do it, identify as Michael Jackson and your pronouns are he/hee
Grin
WiseUpJanetWeiss · 03/08/2020 19:53

But are we allowed to copy Pip bunce’s email signature?

I don’t think so. That would be appropriation of his/her identity and therefore very offensive.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 03/08/2020 19:54

@Franklyfrost

You could attach a picture instead?
Of your vulva presumably
VainAbigail · 03/08/2020 19:56

@randomchap

Do it, identify as Michael Jackson and your pronouns are he/hee
😂😂😂😂😁
SchadenfreudePersonified · 03/08/2020 19:57

In a nutshell: the mantra of the trans rights movement is:
Trans Women Are Women.

And women are "menstruators"

speakout · 03/08/2020 19:58

I would asked to be referred to in the plural.
Use only collective pronouns.