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To delay mmr vaccine

163 replies

Coriandersucks · 03/08/2020 14:17

I know aibu but my question is really relating to how long can I delay it without putting my child’s health at risk?

The reason being, childs father has been experiencing some mental health problems since lockdown and has asked that we delay giving our 3 year old second mmr dose whilst he looks into the ‘ingredients’ (paranoia around aborted foetuses going in apparently).

I have pointed out that the ingredients are listed on the nhs website but he wants to see it in writing, via a letter from virgin health or whoever, to confirm. If he’s happy with it then he will ‘allow’ the vaccine to go ahead.

I will be getting my child vaccinated regardless but I know it will be at the expense of my relationship If he disagrees hence why I would like to know if anyone has any idea about the guidelines as I can’t seem to find anything online. The cdc says it could be up to 2 years but that’s American isn’t it?

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SinkGirl · 03/08/2020 21:54

OP, sending hugs to you.

If he genuinely believes that a top US government agent was sharing information through 4Chan and has overlooked the glaring giant ridiculous holes in the entire thing, he’s not going to be changing his mind on anything by November. He’s stalling, and he’s probably posting on some message board somewhere about how to put you off for longer. I’m really sorry you’re in this situation.

PiataMaiNei · 03/08/2020 22:06

Do it on schedule. Your child comes first.

frillydress · 03/08/2020 23:27

If you vaccinate DC on time and try to keep it a secret it won't be a secret forever and if he persists with his opinions come November, you'll break. If he changes his mind by November and you confess that you've done it in secrecy months ago, you'll break. I guess you would just have to end the relationship now as it'll be worse later. Thanks

Duggeehugs82 · 04/08/2020 07:19

I didnt think people who belive conspiracy theories are automatically someone with mental health problems, that would mean anyone in a cult would have mental health issues, they dont they have just got sucked in and unable to leave. Due to not beliving its a cult and the amount of brainwashing. Ive read Qaon (not sure how its spelt) is a dangerous cult. Its not paranoia if hes reading or listening to others and beliving them. Say way its not paranoia beliving all the things relating to a cult.

MoggyP · 04/08/2020 07:33

Do the jabs leave holes in the arms?

So he's taken direct responsibility for the jabs and personal care after the jabs so far? And you've never had a jab yourself?

Because I do not see how you could possibly need to ask this question unless both of those were true. Or are you just teasing?

No, they do not leave holes. Yes there may be swelling/redness around the jab site. The pack info leaflets about likely/possible/rare side effects is readily available online, so you might want to have a look

GlacindaTheTroll · 04/08/2020 07:40

Info on QAnon:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

TL:DR Growing online movement: ssentially, much of the world is run by liberal elites who are also paedophiles, running the global trade and immunity from prosecution anywhere. Trump was an outsider, who is still trying to clear the Augean stables, but the elite are determined to oust him

ittakes2 · 04/08/2020 08:43

You need to ring the immunisation nurse at your local gp and ask them these questions you have.

BananaChocolateLump · 04/08/2020 08:48

Tell him to fuck off and get your child vaccinated. "Allow" it indeed.

Coriandersucks · 04/08/2020 08:54

@MoggyP no need to be snippy - it’s been a while since we’ve had vaccinations I couldn’t remember what the after effects were and what the needle area looked like afterwards, but don’t worry I’ll speak to the nurse today and get answers from them.

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Ginfordinner · 04/08/2020 09:34

You're doing the right thing

Shmithecat2 · 04/08/2020 09:35

Might sound a bit harsh, but honestly, if my DH suggested any of that, I'd leave him.

Blue565 · 04/08/2020 10:26

When I took my youngest to get the MMR, the nurse asked me if I had the other parents permission. I said yes - 4 jabs, one crying baby and a cuddle later.

Just lie, your partner clearly has mental health problems but frankly - tough shit. Measles can and does kill.

Itsalwayssunnyupnorth · 04/08/2020 10:39

OP I really feel for you my MIL has got into all this stuff big style and has caused problems over the last few months. I am pregnant and she started spamming me on social media with anti vaccine YouTube videos etc saying her GC won’t be vaccinated (I am a medical professional they 100% will be vaccinated) she they started sharing lots of stuff around about 5G, ID2020 etc and getting really quite vile with people who won’t listen to her. She won’t take her prescribed medications for health problems and has some strange ideas about covid-19. It’s really stressful Flowers just get your child vaccinated their well being has to come first.

user1471432735 · 04/08/2020 10:54

I’d leave now. In November it will be something else. At least if you leave now you’re 3 months further along in moving on

Cutesbabasmummy · 04/08/2020 10:56

Just vaccinate the child. And your partner either needs help or you leave.

MidnightCitrus · 04/08/2020 11:29

@Coriandersucks

Part of me wants to be proven wrong though, he’s spent hundreds of pounds on Vietnamese dong ffs in the belief that he will be a millionaire in 4 weeks time.

I would laugh if this was happening to someone else.

You would laugh if someone else didn't vaccinate their child?

Seriously? Why haven't you just gone and got it done?

Coriandersucks · 04/08/2020 11:43

You would laugh if someone else didn't vaccinate their child?

That’s not what I said.

Anyway I’ve spoken to the nurse, she’s said that now I’ve told them he wouldn’t consent it might put them in a tricky position legally so she’s going to speak to the gp about it.

She’s also suggested the gp speak to me anyway as she has concerns about my other half (well, duh) so god knows what ball I’ve started rolling now.

She’s going to check if I can get him done elsewhere but did say she wouldn’t be panicking to get it done right away.

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Shmithecat2 · 04/08/2020 11:54

The nurse we've been to for DS' jabs has never asked me if his father agreed 🤨. I have PR, I'd be fucking fuming if they'd asked me!

kimlo · 04/08/2020 12:10

I would leave him.

Come November it'll be a cover up of the truth, mainstream media won't tell you that, sheeple. Nothing will change his mindset.

I stressed enough when my cats vax couldn't happen because of lockdown, no way would I be playing with my childs health for someone who will not change their mind.

I say that as someone who has had to deal with someone with an actual diagnoised mental health problem.

pointythings · 04/08/2020 12:14

You've dug a hole for yourself by telling the nurse. That really wasn't an intelligent thing to do - if he keeps digging his heels in about vaccines, you may end up on the wrong end of a court case. You really should have just smiled and nodded and got it done.

Ginfordinner · 04/08/2020 12:21

@pointythings

You've dug a hole for yourself by telling the nurse. That really wasn't an intelligent thing to do - if he keeps digging his heels in about vaccines, you may end up on the wrong end of a court case. You really should have just smiled and nodded and got it done.
This ^^
sruitfalad · 04/08/2020 12:23

He must be so difficult to live with. I couldn't live with a conspiracy theorist- MH issues or not.

Gurtcha · 04/08/2020 12:27

@pointythings

You've dug a hole for yourself by telling the nurse. That really wasn't an intelligent thing to do - if he keeps digging his heels in about vaccines, you may end up on the wrong end of a court case. You really should have just smiled and nodded and got it done.
Yep this. You’ve probablyvraosed all sorts of welfare alarm bells with the nurse and quite rightly so. The two things you can do to protect your child right now is find somewhere to vaccinate him and leave your DH until he stops this nonsense at the very least.
ArriettyJones · 04/08/2020 12:30

@Coriandersucks

He’s not seeking help because as far as he is concerned There is no problem and he is the one who is thinking of our child’s health, and I am the one putting them at risk. Like I say, you can’t have a rational discussion about it.
Then you have much bigger problems than the jab.

Are you really going to do another 15+ years of child rearing with this person in his current mental state?

ArriettyJones · 04/08/2020 12:33

She’s also suggested the gp speak to me anyway as she has concerns about my other half (well, duh) so god knows what ball I’ve started rolling now.

You do realise that she means child welfare concerns? Leave him before you find yourself subject to a full blown child services investigation.

The shock might even make crazy-balls rethink a bit. Probably not, but stranger things have happened.